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Mounting Pain, Fatigue, Joint weakness and bruising...
Answered by
Kevin Pho, MD - Internal Medicine
Kevin Pho, MD Boston - MA
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Mounting Pain, Fatigue, Joint weakness and bruising...

by shancal, Aug 07, 2006 12:00AM
I am an 18 year old female who has been suffering from a number of symptoms that I would like to sort out. They include fatigue, weakness, migraine headaches, mysterious bruising, bags under the eyes and joint pain coupled with "crunchy" sounding joints. I maintain a very healthy diet and sleep the recommended eight hours, but still tend to get sick often. I am on a low-dose birth control pill.



I've been experiencing mild to moderate fatigue for over four years, and have been variously prescribed/recommended amphetamines, antidepressants, vitamins and exercise. Last year I was diagnosed with Mono, which my pediatrician deduced had been lingering for at least two months. I took a week off from school to rest, but my energy level remained low. Prior to taking a week off for the mono, I developed dark bags under my eyes that will not go away.



Three months ago I was in a low-speed car accident. I got mild whiplash, which I am in therapy for. My chiropractor is treating the whiplash and the migraine headaches, which have come as a result of the whiplash and the subsequent displacement my c2 vertebra. Since the crash my wrists, elbows and shoulders have become weak and painful. They do not appear swollen, but minimal motion causes them to crack and pop. I am a piano player, and the pain is interfering with my ability to practice.



Over the past two weeks I have been getting bruises around my left and right wrists and elbows. The bruises occur in exactly the same spots on both sides and are tender to the touch and brown in color. My arms, particularly my left arm, are becoming weaker, to the point that holding a pizza with one arm is almost impossible.



My joint pain, fatigue and headaches tend to get worse as the day goes on. My pediatrician, chiropractor and gyno each attribute the symptoms to different things. Should I consider another opinion?

by Kevin Pho, MD, Aug 08, 2006 12:00AM
A referral to a rheumatologist can be considered to evaluate the fatigue and joint pain.



It is possible that the discomfort can stem from the injuries you have suffered.  However, I would do blood tests for diseases like lupus or rheumatoid arthritis - including an ANA level and rheumatoid factor.  Other tests to consider would be a blood count (to evaluate for platelet dysfunction that can lead to bruising) as well as markers of inflammation (i.e. a sedimentation rate or C-reactive protein).  



If the rheumatology evaluation is non-revealing, a referral to a neurologist can be considered to evaluate the weakness.



These options can be discussed with your personal physician.



Followup with your personal physician is essential.



This answer is not intended as and does not substitute for medical advice - the information presented is for patient education only. Please see your personal physician for further evaluation of your individual case.



Kevin, M.D.

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Member Comments (12)

by shancal, Aug 08, 2006 12:00AM
Thank you very much. I will discuss your suggestions with my pediatrician. My mother had rheumatic fever and was bedridden for much of her childhood. Is there a genetic factor to rheumatic fever and other rheumatic disorders?

by myproblem, Aug 17, 2006 12:00AM
To: shancal
I can't begin to tell you how much you sound like me at your age. All of the symptoms are so similar. The difference is that I spent years with no medical insurance, so count yourself lucky. I am also a musician, and primarily play piano and classical guitar. I have given up, or cut back on many of my former talents/hobbies because of my health and pain issues. I definately agree that you should have a workup done for autoimmune (rheumatological) diseases. ask your Dr. to test for Rheumatoid Arthritis & Lupus. The panels for these will giveyour Dr. further direction depending on the results. There are many autoimmune diseases, and many overlap. Some can be very hard to distinguish without the help of an experienced rheumatologist.

In my case the symptoms started just as I neared puberty, with my first memories of joint pain being about a year before my period started. autoimmune diseases are most common in women, and a hormonal link is strongly suspected. By 18 I felt like I was 100, and had to quit my job due to the extreme fatigue. I also caught every germ that blew my way, and was sick all the time. In fact I have quit working 3 times because of my illnesses. It took until I was 25 to even get a Dr. to listen to me, and until the week I turned 30 to get a label of "Mixed Connective Tissue Disease". This is an overlap of autoimmune symptoms, primarily Scleroderma, and Lupus. There are many treatments avilable once you get a Dr. who takes you seriously, and once you get a diagnosis (even if it's just "ballpark" like mine). I am now almost 31, and have found some medication that slows the progression of the disease, and impoves my symptoms. I am pregnant right now though, so I just have to suffer, because it is not safe during pregnancy or nursing.

It is very important to be presistent. It sounds like your Mom is a good suport for you. (I did not have that luxury.) Take her to all your appontments if you can. Two heads are better than one. Good luck, and post back if you have more questions.

by JTD, Sep 03, 2006 12:00AM
Hi, I also feel like you are writting about me. I am 25 & have been diagnossed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. I sufferd all of the symptoms you have & can totally relate to the pizza box thing. I had trouble going to the toilet even because I coul not bend down as my knees had no strength to hold me up, & I would just drop to the seat. Not nice!! Anyway I also had strange bruises & finally after a year of tests took it into my own hands. No one knew what was wrong with me as blood tests shoped slightly elevated Rheumatoid level factor(I think thats what its called) but nothing else wrong. I paid $250 bit the bullet, booked a plane to Wellington & saw a Rheumatologist. He examined me & did bloods & diagnosed me straight away. My rheumatoid factor level & ANA (Ithink its called or ARA) had shot up within 1 month of my last blood test. Apparently the normal range is between 3 & 14. Mine was 298!!  Anyway I guess Im trying to say, sometimes it is best to pay a little more & do a lot of research yourself so you are well equiped before you get to the specialist. I have a feeling that you definatly have some type of autoimmune disease such as rheumatoid or something similar. Keep your head up mate & take it easy. P.s If you can stay off steroids they are great for the pain but hell on the rest of the body.  Keep us posted

by missmellie, Sep 16, 2006 12:00AM
one form of arthritis that is genetic is ankylosing spondylitis, the HLA 27B gene. you will have a 50% chance of inheriting the gene if a parent had it,you will need to find a very good rhematologist for diagnose you, luckily I was diagnoed by a very experienced doctor after ten years of finding him that is, i probably went to every doctor there was, after visting with him twice he found the gene responsible after i had given him by health history, one thing is to tell your doctor your family history, as years ago AS would not have been easily diagnosed as today, i inherited this from my dad, yeah he had a bad abck, took horse pills and laid on a board in his bed, that's what they did back then, gosh i am so glad i found such a fantastic dotor, i htink today i would be going out of my mind as i am in so much pain, bit at least now i know what is causing it, now i just need to go to a lower altitude and warmer climate haha as the cold greatly affects this.  sorry to drag on but i see many posts from people who seem to go through so many tests like i did, i'm only 36. i've had a bum back since i was 17. i was so athletic i just thought gosh i've over done it, just get on with it girl but after it starts not to go away and you have it 24/7 it like wow yeah i've rally got something and it can be so maddening knowing that you are ill and the medical field can not find the casue.. fatiques is a very big part odf AS too, so it can be misdiagnosed with fibro, lupus etc.  keep those blood tests all copies of you medical tests i always had a postive ana, slightly elevated so and so but nothing signifiacnt, until the hla 27B this is an indicater it does not mean that you have AS but if you have a bad back, pin in hips, heels neck rib cage chest wall it quite the red flag. good luck to all and god bless