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A Question on Lipids
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A Question on Lipids
by jerry1978, Jun 18, 2004 12:00AM
For coronary artery health, as well as general heart health.....which nutritional approach (in my case) is superior?
On an Ornish-type diet, my LDL drops to the 80's, but my HDL drops to the 40's and my TRI's rise to the 200's.
On a low-carb approach, my HDL zooms up to 59, my TRI's drop to 140, but my LDL suffers by going to 125.
So, I guess my question is: What is really better-A low LDL w/ fairly high TRI's, or a high HDH w/ good TRI's.
Thanks-Jerry
On an Ornish-type diet, my LDL drops to the 80's, but my HDL drops to the 40's and my TRI's rise to the 200's.
On a low-carb approach, my HDL zooms up to 59, my TRI's drop to 140, but my LDL suffers by going to 125.
So, I guess my question is: What is really better-A low LDL w/ fairly high TRI's, or a high HDH w/ good TRI's.
Thanks-Jerry
Doctor's Answer
by Cleveland Clinic, Jun 18, 2004 12:00AM
, Jun 18, 2004 12:00AM
jerry,
thanks for the post.
None of the diets have been looked at in patients with coronary disease. I believe however, that the high protein and fat and low carb approach is not optimal for those with coronary disease. I think that the key is really balance of several diets with caloric restriction, avoidance of simple carbohydrates and incorporation of more complex carbohydrates such as fiber into the diet is the path most with coronary disease should follow.
good luck
thanks for the post.
None of the diets have been looked at in patients with coronary disease. I believe however, that the high protein and fat and low carb approach is not optimal for those with coronary disease. I think that the key is really balance of several diets with caloric restriction, avoidance of simple carbohydrates and incorporation of more complex carbohydrates such as fiber into the diet is the path most with coronary disease should follow.
good luck
Yes-I agree with you on everything in moderation. And you are correct, there is no way I'm jumping on the Atkins diet-There is just way too much evidence to the contrary.
Granted, that type of diet can be made safe by consuming good fats and lean protein-but how boring will that become??
runninguy:
Thanks for the info. on the added olive oil and wine for raising the HDL.
I also just read an article on WEBMD that says if your LDL is nice and low, then there really is no reason for the HDL to be skyhigh. In other words, think of LDL as garbage and HDL as the garbage trucks. The less garbage(LDL), the less garbage trucks(HDL) needed.
I was very content on an Ornish type diet in the past, and I think I'll stay with it, and if the need arises, every once in awhile, I'll have a piece of meat or cheese.
5'3 and 105lbs
my hdl =41
my ldl =129
my tri=70
total= 185
i already have sinus tachycardia and 800+ pvc's a day.
my grandpa died at 39 from a heart attack.
oh yeah i also had a successfull ablation for avnrt and psvt.
do i have anything to worry about my numbers seem too high to me, does this mean i shouldnt eat eggs anymore? how about milk? should i switch to soy? what about steak? i know my numbers will only get higher as i age. WHAT CAN I DO NOW i dont wanna end up like my grandpa :(
thanks kim