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Arrhythmia//PVC's
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Arrhythmia//PVC's

by twhgait, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
I am a 39 y.o. female with no big PMH.  I am a nurse and on occasion check my radial pulse.  While doing this for the past couple months, I have noticed frequent "skipped beats" in my pulse (just a pause in a chain of beats).  I do have the occasional palpitations that I can feel in my chest also. I cannot consciously feel these radial pulse "skipped beats" in my chest and wouldn't have even noticed them if I had not been checking.  They seem to disappear when my heartrate increases and are most noticeable at rest (at least every 40 beats or so).  I went to my FP doctor and my EKG was normal. I pick up my holter monitor on Monday (48hr) and will also have some fasting labs drawn at that time. He also ordered an echo which I have not scheduled yet.  My thyroid size appears normal although there were some cysts on it.  My doc feels these are probably benign PVC's as I have normal cardio results so far.  I've read thru these forums extensively and most pt's describe the "fluttering, flipping over" sensations.  Can PVC's like mine (not noticiable unless I am checking my pulse) still be benign?  Or, is this another possible arrhythmia that I may be dealing with?  How reliable is the ECG stating "normal sinus rhythm"  considering other possible arrhythmias?  Of course, my heart behaved in the doctors office (I was very nervous and my pulse shot up to 96 bpm).  I am worrying myself into a panic over this

by CCF-M.D.-MJM, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
Hey,



Stop worrying.  Your biggest problem is that you work in the health care industry and you see all the worst case scenerios--you are acting like every other health care professional I know.



Consider  yourself fortunate  you don't feel them.  For some reason, some people feel every blasted PVC or PAC and others don't notice anything.



A 24-48 hour holter should answer the question of PAC versus PVC.  A normal EKG, echo, and holter should reassure you to move on.  It is normal to PVCs and PACs and does not indicate there is something wrong.



If you are not having symptoms of chest pain, shortness of breath, lower extremity swelling, passing out or almost passing out, increased exertional shortness of breath.....the echo probably wasn't even necessary, although a normal echo will certainly help reassure you.



After you get you normal results back, stop checking your pulse (just kidding, but don't convince yourself you are sick when you are not.  The mind is a powerful tool, don't let it work against you).
Member Comments (29)

by Erik36, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
To: twhgait
The doctor is right. You are lucky that you don't feel your PVC's and PAC's. I am a 36 year old male and have been feeling my Premature beats for 18 years. They used to be scary, then annoying now I ignore them. They have caused me years of grief. I had all those tests that you are having and more and my heart is normal which mean my PVC's and PAC's are benign. Try to find something else to obsess about. Something not health related. It can really drive you nuts, especially when you work in the health field. Good luck!!!





Erik

by twhgait, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
LOL, thank you both for the GREAT advice, which I will take!!!!  I'll stop checking my pulse, promise! I know I am fortunate to not feel every stinking PVC; the ones I DO feel are more then enough to remind me that they are there!  I will be happy to put this aside after this testing and move ON.

by pms_barbie, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
yes be very happy you dont feel manyof the pvcs.  I had bigeminy and I know what its like to feel each and every one of them.  I got rid of my bigeminy.  Now I tend to feel my pulse.  I have noticed skips in my pulse and dont feel them in my chest....Those I can live with.  I also sometimes still feel the pvcs however they are soooooo much better than they wore......Stephanie

by mrbh, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
To: twhgait
I don't understand the sense of relief here.



Are you diabetic, hypertensive, overweight? What about alcohol, tobacco or excessive stress?



I would suggest a stress test and a workup by a cardiologist. A GP simply does not have the knowledge to deal with these issues.



My own diagnosis was sinus tach and unifocal PVC's. I was told everything was fine. Then I found not one but TWO letters warning of sudden cardiac death in my records.



Doctors are notorious for telling you what you want to hear, not what you NEED to hear. Please seek another, better informed opinion regarding your case.

by twhgait, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
To: mrbh
Hello mrbh,

I guess saying "sense of relief" is not totally descriptive of my situation (I still have tests to finish....), but in all honesty, it provides me with an optimism I didn't have before.  It's one thing to sit at home and feel an irregular heartbeat and imagine the worst, but it's another to read stories about other peoples PVC's and start to understand this "disorder" (for lack of a better word) and that it's NOT a life-ending event in and of itself.  I am completely healthy, no other medical conditions to speak of.  I could stand to lose about 25lbs, I smoke and I drink coffee.  I have no other signs/symptoms of a cardiac nature. I usually handle my stress well (I think that's where the cigerettes come in, so "well" might not be accurate).  I think when these tests are complete and if all's well, I will not dwell on this anymore.  Life's too short and I have too much left to do.  I guess had I not checked my pulse that night (and I'm still not sure why I did), I still wouldn't know this was even going on.  I've worked with the Cleveland Clinic in my past job and have nothing but respect for the clinic and it's MD's.  Thank you so much for your concern and I will not allow myself to be brushed off until I am completely satisfied with the answers and long-term outcomes.

by charchar, Oct 09, 2004 12:00AM
hi , I have a daughter that had a pacmaker placed a year ago for slow heartrate now she went for a routine pacemaker check and her resting heart rate was 130 bpm and they couldn't check it(the pacemaker) because they didn't want to speed the heart up anymore than it already was. They put her on Toprol morning and at night and her pulse still runs around 110bpm she has really bad tremors (her hands shake and always have) she is 19 years old and feels ok . Is it normal for the heart to do the opposite of what it was before? And should we be concerned about anything? If anybody can help me understand this I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks

by Erik36, Oct 10, 2004 12:00AM
To: MRBH
Her Primary doctor is more than adequate to follow this up. Are you trying to scare this woman? If the tests she is having checks out ok, then she need not go further. Everyone's case is different and you shouldn't go injecting ideas into the mix, especially when it goes against what the nice Doctor from CCF told her. I agree totally with the CCF doc and stand by his response.

by Erik36, Oct 10, 2004 12:00AM
To: charchar
It might be a good idea to have a fresh set of eyes look at her records and be re-evaluated (in other words a second opinion). You should go to a teaching hospital or a high volume center where they have a lot of experience with these types of things. Good luck!





Erik

by mrbh, Oct 10, 2004 12:00AM
To: erik36
No, I am not injecting ideas. No, I am not trying to scare anyone. I was urging a better qualified second opinion based upon my own ugly experiences with doctors who say one thing to your face and then write something completely different in your records.



BTW...this forum is NOT the private playground of a handful of regulars (with multiple user names) attempting to dominate and factionalize the discussion. From what I read, there is a lot of idea injecting going on here.

by Erik36, Oct 10, 2004 12:00AM
To: mrbh
No, this is not a playround. This is a small community of nice people with Cardiac issues who share information and gain insight on each other's questions and the Doctor's responses. All of us here welcome your ideas and opinions. I just thought that when you started your comment to this person as "I don't understand the sense of relief here" and then went on to suggest that there may be something more sinister going on and telling her that her GP doesn't have the knowledge to handle her situation, I was taken back a bit. The Cardio Doctor echoed  my sentiment in his response.



Back to the Playground for regulars and multiple screen name users. I shortened my screen name so it wasn't so long. If that's mutiple screen name using then I guess you've got me there. Maybe in a figurative sense you could call this a playground, and if you continue not to play nice, then maybe no one will want to play with you anymore.

by ~*CaMeO*~, Oct 10, 2004 12:00AM
Ahh - a touch of humor!  Much needed among all the seriousness on this board (which I read every day, BTW).  You guys are great with the information --------- has helped me enormously just from reading!

by chi-chi03, Oct 11, 2004 12:00AM
Thank you for starting this thread!!!



I am 40 with PVCs diagnosed a couple of years ago. I have only felt PVCs lately when I have slight indigestion.  I started a