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High BP but Low pulse rate
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High BP but Low pulse rate

by Kjjbenson, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
My husband was recently at the doctors and was told that he has high blood pressure.  She didn't tell him exactly the reading but said it was higher than 140/90.  She also took his resting pulse and said that it was the lowest she had ever seen in her office and it was 49 bpm.  She was surprised at his high BP and couldn't explain how his BP could be high yet his pulse be so low.  Over the past few months he has experienced multiple nose bleeds, dialated or burst blood vessels in the whites of his eyes, and occasional bouts of light headedness when standing from a seated position. He is also chronically exhausted despite getting 8 hrs of sleep a night plus a daily 1 hr nap.



My husband is 29 and an elite athlete (rower) who trains 3-4 hours a day.  He is 5'10", 160 lbs and in excellent shape.  He eats very well and lives a fairly non-stressful life.  There is no history of heart disease in his family.  He takes Effexor-XR once a day but was told that high BP is not one of the possible side effects.  



How is it that he can be so fit and have such a low pulse yet have high blood pressure?  What could be causing his high BP?  Is his high BP causing his fatigue and other symptoms?



I appreciate any insite you may have.

by CCF-M.D.-MJM, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
Hello,



These are tough situations to know for sure.  First of all, if your husbands  heart rate increases with exercise to an appropriate level (in his case, probably greater than 140-160) with strenuous exercise, his heart rate is fine.  Athletes have slow heart rates because of increased vagal tone associated with fitness.  This is a good thing.



Second, being fit does not by any means mean that you cannothave hypertension. The most common cause of hypertension is essential hypertension -- we have no idea what causes it and it should be controlled with diet and exercise first, then if that fails, then medications.  Athletes usually can't do much more with diet and exercse and require medications.  How think of this is a matter of perspective. The problemi isn't that he has hypertension, the problem is it isn't controlled. Know about it and treating it appropriately is the soluation.  I wouldn't get too worked up about the diagnosis, I would just make sure it is controlled.



buy a  blood pressure cuff, validate it by checking it in your doctors office while they check it at  the same time and then keep track of it home.  



I would see a hypertension speicalist.  While 98% of people his age have essential hypertension, the other 2% can be over looked. See someone that deals with this problem often and make sure there isn't other reason.  Depression can increase blood pressure and cause fatigue.  That is one possibility.  It depends on how high the pressure is though.  I would see a specialist.  High blood pressure in a young person is almost always asymptomatic unless it is VERY high. I doubt it is causing fatigue, but again, see a hypertension specialist to make sure.  He is young and the cummulative damage to the arteries over the next 50 years if this isn't controlled could be significant.



I hope this helps.  Good luck and thanks for posting.
Member Comments (15)

by tickertock, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
This is a great question. I know a couple of persons with low pulse rates 45-50 and B/P over 140/90 with no other risks factors for CAD besides being male.

by woodruff, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
I wonder if it's some sort of overshoot by the autonomic nervous system?  Perhaps a very low pulse is perceived as a risk for hypotension, so the vascular beds clamp down to bring the pressure up, but it goes too far in some people.  I dunno; it happens to me, too:  If my pulse gets into the low fifties, I'll often have quite high pressures at the time.

by Hotspur, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
I have been told by a Doctor that very fit people often have low heart rate. Champion tennis players around 40 beats per min.

I can not reconcile his training regime chronic exhaustion.

by chrisr, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
I have also been afflicted with high BP moreso systolic (150-180)/70-90 but this occurs in the early morning or as soon as I awake and within 15 minutes it could be 130/70. My pulse could be in the 50-60 range with the high BP and elevate to 60-70 as the BP normalizes. I have tried switching my BP med - Diovan to the evening hours but with little effect. I have been labelled a non-dipper BP type by my GP but besides warning about long term kidney damage/disease he seems baffled and does not know what to prescribe for this. I have been Dx with mild to moderate sleep apnea and wonder whether this could be the cause? Appreciate comments from anyone.

ChrisR.

by mom4cem, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
Have you goggled effexor-xr? There are some links that report high blood pressure as a less common side effect but that does mean that some have reported it. Is there any possibilty that they could switch him to something else to see if that is the cause before they add another drug for hbp to his list.



Just a thought and only my opinion. I have also read and heard that people who are very athletic etc.,  can have these low heart rates.



I hope you get the answers you are looking for :)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effexor  Just one little link about effexor for your info.

by ilogik, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
I am surprised a doc hasnt answered this question yet. Low heart rate is excellent, it is seen in most athletes. I am 34 and in perfect shape, muscle/bodyweight.  What I found out later on is that I was actually alergic to alcohol which included extremely high B/P on two occasions where I had to be hospitilazed (around 240/160)  The nursed couldnt believe that someone that looked like me had this problem and they actually got two different machines to check the BP.  While at the hospital which was at Redlands, CA  I was seen by one of the foremost cardio guys in the world ( he made the first baboon to child transplant)  and I was told by him that the BP could spike to extremes especially if the person is excitable.  While I was there I spoke with quite a few people ( staying in bed all day sux)  I spoke with some brain tumor patients and they said the first sign was a nose bleed so... Please have him get an MRI

by CCF-M.D.-MJM, Apr 28, 2006 12:00AM
I forgot to mention, Effexor has stimulant properties and can cause hypertension and orthostatic hypotension (Lightheadedness iwth standing).  If the hypertension is mild it may be worth switching angents first, if blood pressure is very high this is unlikely the cause.