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Let's ALL talk about H-Pylori Eradication and All That Follows.
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Let's ALL talk about H-Pylori Eradication and All That Follows.
by Lynn28, Apr 11, 2002 12:00AM
I couldn't help myself when I read the post below regarding the length of time it takes to heal an ulcer and stomach inflammation, which is Gastritis once H-Pylori is eradicated.
Everyone's response just hit a chord with me. My father, along with a few friends and MANY colleagues suffer from stomach ulcers. Some are very young and some are up there in age. My father for instance has had an ulcer since he was a teenager. Today he's 63 and is in the best of health. Much better than his 27 year old daughter. He's never taken medication for this, but when in need, he takes an over the counter pepcid. I think his good health has to do with fear of doctors. The man has never been to a doctor in his life and refuses when it's needed. He always seems to recover on his own. Except one day last year his ulcer got to be too much to handle. Not a GP, but a trip to the ER and a capping latter, he was fine. Still to this day he is fine as well as many of my friends and colleagues as mentioned above. Most all of these ulcers were discovered via upper GI with barium x-ray. I would love to put money it had they gone down with the endoscope and took a biopsy that low and behold H-Pylori would be swimming around playing. However, this was not the case. This would explain to "Me" why none of these people suffer like that of H-Pylori treated patients. The debate on whether or not H-Pylori should be eradicated and if it indeed is beneficial, has been discussed all over within the medical profession and documented. Now I know everyone's not going to agree, (continued)
Everyone's response just hit a chord with me. My father, along with a few friends and MANY colleagues suffer from stomach ulcers. Some are very young and some are up there in age. My father for instance has had an ulcer since he was a teenager. Today he's 63 and is in the best of health. Much better than his 27 year old daughter. He's never taken medication for this, but when in need, he takes an over the counter pepcid. I think his good health has to do with fear of doctors. The man has never been to a doctor in his life and refuses when it's needed. He always seems to recover on his own. Except one day last year his ulcer got to be too much to handle. Not a GP, but a trip to the ER and a capping latter, he was fine. Still to this day he is fine as well as many of my friends and colleagues as mentioned above. Most all of these ulcers were discovered via upper GI with barium x-ray. I would love to put money it had they gone down with the endoscope and took a biopsy that low and behold H-Pylori would be swimming around playing. However, this was not the case. This would explain to "Me" why none of these people suffer like that of H-Pylori treated patients. The debate on whether or not H-Pylori should be eradicated and if it indeed is beneficial, has been discussed all over within the medical profession and documented. Now I know everyone's not going to agree, (continued)
Does everyone think H-Pylori should be eradicated if detected?
I apologize for the length, I just couldn't resist.
I can feel your pain. I have gone thorough the same experience as you have: Before H pylori treatment, 100% healthy and after the treatment, my health is virtually wrecked. I have posted in this thread before and I will say it again: Think twice before you subject yourself to antibiotic treatment for H pylori. The treatment itself can be an express way ticket to the hell.
After two rounds of antibiotic treatment, I had and still have gastritis and IBS. My intestine feels very hard and I feel naseated after meal. Food does not go down very smoothly and I hear weird gurrgling noises in my guts after the meal and just after I wake up. Intestinal flora has been decimated my harsh antibiotics and it will take long time to reestabilish if I can ever do it. Last year, I could not sleep more than 4 hours a night due to abdominal pain and I quit job temporarily due to this pain.
I have corresponded to several folks who are suffering from side effects of antibiotics. Some have recovered after about 6 months. Some are still suffering 2 to 3 years after the treatment. For me, it has been about a year and three months and even though pain has mitigated somewhat, I am still suffering from most of the side effects that I have mentioned above.
I almost felt like suing the first doctor who was so obsessed with killing this bug and ordered me with multiple antibiotic treatment. The way he was going to erradicate the bacteria for mee was to kill me. My current physician do not recommend the treatment for asympomatic patients with this bug. I feel the same way with him.. The treatment itself may not be necessary.
in fact, this bug may have some properties that help prevent acid refluxes in human beings. There are some medical data that are showing increased acid reflux frequency after erradication of this bug.
Jennifer
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I sincerely hope one day my poor stomach goes back to normal, I am aggresively watching what I put in my mouth and most certainly making sure no one's adivse goes unchallenged and or fully scrutnized.
Hope you get better.
Now, I am still extremely tired, which I hate, being only 28 years old, but I can't complain as I am not in pain- I can even eat tomato-based things now (after about 3 weeks of treatment).
I have read that imbalances in digestive flora can take up to 2 years to manifest itself (giving it time for bad organims to grow since your healthy bacteria can not keep them in check) so I urge you to take these supplements even if your treatment was a long time ago.
Please try the probiotics, I hate to hear you all in pain when there may be a chance that you can remedy it. If you already have been taking probiotics and they haven't helped I apologise in advance for wasting your time.
I'm so sorry that all of you are suffering from this. I'm suffering from an incompetent doctor who delivered my daughter 16 years ago.