Regardless of what brings any of us to this forum, we need to remember that the folks here are not medical doctors. Sometimes we do not like what doctors have to tell us either, because it is the truth, or neglect on the doctor part to listen to us. I think we feel better knowing there is someone in this world listening that cares enough to hear our complaints. The only information that anyone of us has to offer, is from what we have experienced ourselves. Many of us continue with whatever pain and suffering we may have, because it is so very hard to make lifestyle changes and stick with them, or denial keeps us from accepting that we may be the cause of our problems. This forum is an avenue of information, for folks to decide what is right for them or not. Each of us who offer information, should always refer those folks, to a doctor they trust to listen to their problem. It amazes me that there are six billion people in this world, with as many beliefs as there are people, yet, there is not more chaos than what there is. We need our ChickenSoups, as well as, the Patriots, to help us make the decisions we feel would be right for ourselves.