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Pain please help with info????????????? 2 post
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Pain please help with info????????????? 2 post
by steveab, Nov 25, 2002 12:00AM
hello, this all started about a year ago...after eating pizza and beer about a 12-pac a weekend I would get little pains in my
right side just under my rib nothing major also the same type of pain on the left side would last a min or so and be gone..
I had a bowel movement about 2 years ago with some blood but also i have had hemroids with just a touch of blood very little on the paper...sept 25 my father died of a aortic anyerizam
of course i went in to shock ...he was a very heavy drinker and that day i quit drinking .. I was so stressed from his death my diet changed I started drinking alot of water and have subed the beer with water ever since..2 days after his death I started getting a runny nose and a hacking cough with some flu symptoms I had frequent sharp chest pains i thought I was having a heart attack from all the stress... may 5th I had been diagnosed with high blood pressure it was staying at 130/90 to 140/98 since I have lost around 15 pounds and my blood pressure is normal 120/72 most of the time and sometimes lower 110/60 i went to the ER in fear of heart attack and they did a ekg and chest x-ray they said it was all great just a little broncites in my lungs but no signs of heart problems and no scaring and my ox level was 100% the doctor gave me a zpac and sent me home.. since then the antibiotic killed the cough the pain has moved from my chest to my back middle back/ and the side of my ribcage also still having mild pain under the right and left rib cage like the past from after eating pizza my stool is on and off light brown to tan some yellow ?
right side just under my rib nothing major also the same type of pain on the left side would last a min or so and be gone..
I had a bowel movement about 2 years ago with some blood but also i have had hemroids with just a touch of blood very little on the paper...sept 25 my father died of a aortic anyerizam
of course i went in to shock ...he was a very heavy drinker and that day i quit drinking .. I was so stressed from his death my diet changed I started drinking alot of water and have subed the beer with water ever since..2 days after his death I started getting a runny nose and a hacking cough with some flu symptoms I had frequent sharp chest pains i thought I was having a heart attack from all the stress... may 5th I had been diagnosed with high blood pressure it was staying at 130/90 to 140/98 since I have lost around 15 pounds and my blood pressure is normal 120/72 most of the time and sometimes lower 110/60 i went to the ER in fear of heart attack and they did a ekg and chest x-ray they said it was all great just a little broncites in my lungs but no signs of heart problems and no scaring and my ox level was 100% the doctor gave me a zpac and sent me home.. since then the antibiotic killed the cough the pain has moved from my chest to my back middle back/ and the side of my ribcage also still having mild pain under the right and left rib cage like the past from after eating pizza my stool is on and off light brown to tan some yellow ?
I'll also post some gastric reflux tips, for you (see next message) which can also help with indigestion, ulcers, and other things. These tips are not for all conditions, so you should see a good doctor, to get diagnosed.
I wish you the best. Hang in there! I'm sure others will give you good ideas, too.
Sincerely, Concerned lady
Please check with your doctor, first, before trying these tips to be sure they are safe, in your particular situation.
GER=Gastro-Esophageal Reflux. (Gastro=stomach. Esophagus=food tube.)
LPR= Laryngeal-Pharyngeal Reflux. (Larynx=voice box, containing the 2 vocal cords. Pharynx=throat, above the larynx. The larynx is above the trachea/windpipe.)
Reflux=acidic or alkaline stomach material that backs up into the esophagus (food tube), causing any of these problems (at least): VCD/Vocal Cord Dysfunction/Laryngospasm attacks, cough, voice problems, asthma, globus (feeling of lump in throat), constant need to clear throat, much extra throat mucus, worsening of sinus condition, sore throat, laryngitis, voice problems, pre-cancerous conditions of throat &/or esophagus, etc.
SOME GER/LPR CONTROL THINGS WE DO, that we learned from the excellent book: STOMACH AILMENTS AND DIGESTIVE DISTURBANCES, by Michael T. Murray, N.D. See page 9, References, in my website: http://cantbreathesuspectvcd.com and, also see GER/LPR info on page 5, and on LINKS page.
PLEASE READ THIS GREAT BOOK. It may possibly be bought on-line, from Michael T. Murray’s website.
Some of the following we learned from people &/or other books, &/or other good websites about voice, GER, etc.
(1) DGL (De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice) is one of our main methods of controlling the GER/LPR. We use Enzymatic Therapy brand DGL, shortly (about 20 minutes) before ALL meals (breakfast, lunch, supper, and snacks). The DGL does NOT cause high blood pressure, and does NOT cause fluid retention/edema, because a bad (steroidal) part of whole/crude licorice has been removed, leaving the DGL. Chewable DGL tablets are available at most health food stores, and at good pharmacies. DGL capsules are said to not be effective:
The DGL tablet(s) must be chewed, to mix with saliva, to be effective. If a DGL tablet is too dry (which could cause a cough), one could put a few drops of water on the tablet, and then chew it up. Chew DGL tablet(s) for a few seconds, to mix with saliva, shortly before (about 20 minutes before) EVERY meal, and if necessary, between meals (Read label directions). Chewing the DGL tablets for TOO long a time, may cause a burning sensation on the tongue & in the mouth. (I do not know if this is from the DGL, or another ingredient).
The DGL seems to not only promote healing of throat, esophagus and stomach, but also seems to help prevent OUR reflux.(resulting in no more globus/lump in throat sensation, no more constant throat clearing, excess mucous, excess phlegm, no more NIGHT-TIME VCD/Vocal Cord Dysfunction/Laryngospams attacks, no more laryngitis, etc. for us)
We like the taste of the plain, fructose-free, DGL CHEWABLE tablets, but for those who hate the taste, try mixing a crushed DGL tablet with a tiny bit of mashed organic banana, and then chew, to mix with saliva. Avoid any DGL that contains mint. (Mint—in all forms, can cause gastric reflux episodes. AVOID MINT!!).
(2) We use Thayers brand of SLIPPERY ELM Throat Lozenges when we feel the need. (Soothing, coating, healing, nourishing). Slippery Elm (inner bark from a tree) also comes in teabag form, or in bulk, etc. as an herbal supplement.
(3) We drink the occasional small glass of CARROT JUICE (organic, fresh) which soothes, coats, heals the digestive tract, is nourishing, and stimulates the immune system, with beta-carotene, soothing and coating PECTIN (a type of fiber), and other good nutrients. Carrot soup, cooked carrots are also good. Beta-carotene is heat resistant. Beta-carotene later is turned into Vitamin A inside us. Do not overdo on carrot juice. If your skin turns orange, drink less carrot juice. Avoid beta-carotene pills -- too potent (can harm the liver, if one has liver problems).
(4) We tried elevating the head of the bed a few inches, by putting 6 inch to 8 inch BLOCKS, ON THE FLOOR, under the head end of the bed. This creates a slant (tilt), where the head is 6 to 8 inches higher than the feet. This helps some people, but not all people. (Check with a pediatric Gastro-enterologist, about raising the head end of a bed of a child, or a crib of an infant). Also, see (16) about a special GERD PILLOW, for adults.
(5) We try NOT TO BEND OVER too often, and we try to AVOID STRAINING (Valsalva maneuver). We AVOID LIFTING HEAVY objects. (No weight lifting!) (at least until after no more reflux symptoms for 3 months). Sit without any pressure on the abdomen or stomach (knees lower than hips). Avoid running (shakes up the stomach). Avoid gymnastics, etc. Walking is best, until fully recovered.
(a) If CONSTIPATION is causing any straining, see Ref.15,18,23,24,25 on page 9 for ideas about gently treating constipation, including eating whole grains, not white (de-natured ones), etc. For us, exercise, increased water intake, acidophilus/bifidus, digestive enzymes, avoiding junk food, improved diet, chewing slowly (takes will power!), eating when not under stress or angry, etc., all are helpful.
(6) NO MORE TIGHT pants, belt, corset,--AVOID TIGHT CLOTHING, avoid tight elastic around waist, etc.
(7) We try to not eat too much junk food. Some people avoid acidic food, while others need to eat acidic food, if their stomach is not producing any (or enough) acid. (It is good to avoid acid, if one has an ulcer.) These gastric reflux