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Gallbladder post op complaints
Answered by
Kevin Pho, MD - Internal Medicine
Kevin Pho, MD Boston - MA
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Gallbladder post op complaints

by Bobbi339, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
I had a routine (?) lap gall bladder removal on March 12, 2003.  Five days later I was readmitted to the hospital with considerable pain and jaundice. Tests showed that a surgical clip was blocking the common bile duct.  Surgery was performed to correct this by choledocojejunostomy (sp?).

I am now six weeks post op and have noted the following problems:

1) clay colored stools

2) pain under right shoulder blade after eating

3) nausea after eating

4) intense pain under right side rib cage upon deep breath or yawning.

Do you have any comments or suggestions?

by Kevin Pho, MD, May 01, 2003 12:00AM
Hello - thanks for asking your question.



It is certainly possible that there is a problem with the choledocojejunostomy.  A continued blockage can give you the symptoms of jaundice you are experiencing.  



I highly recommend going back to your original surgeon for followup and discuss these symptoms.  



If everything with the surgery was uncomplicated, post-cholecystectomy syndrome (PCS) is possible - it is reported in 10-15% of cases.  This simply means the presence of symptoms despite cholecystectomy.  A repeat ultrasound and possible ERCP or MRCP should be considered to further evaluate PCS.



Followup with your personal physician is essential.



This answer is not intended as and does not substitute for medical advice - the information presented is for patient education only. Please see your personal physician for further evaluation of your individual case.



Thanks,

Kevin, M.D.

Member Comments (26)

by Sunshine5270, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of sick people with missing gallbladders.



I am being sarcastic because I had my gallbladder out for 1-1/2 yrs. now and STILL get the right shoulder blade pain, all the other things you have, and more stomach problems than I ever had. Do a www.google.com search for digestive problem forums, you will meet thousands of people like us, screwed since the gallbladder came out.



The only positive I can give you is you have to watch your fat intake (keep it minimum), watch your lactose intake (most are lactose intolerant after gallbladder removal), and keep the fiber going through your body.



Good luck

by surgeon, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
it's possible the jejunostomy isn't emptying properly.

The place to go to find out what's actually going on is your surgeon's office; let him/her know what you are noticing. As to the people on this site screwed up after gallbladder surgery; it's among the most common operations done. If you have several hundred thousand procedures of a certain kind done, you will be able to find many who've had problems. They come in various groups: those who, like you, had a technical error occur during the surgery; those who have an uncommon but known side-effect; and those whose gallbladder in retrospect was not the cause of the symtoms for which the surgery was elected. I don't for a minute want to defend errors or say that gallbladder or any surgery is free of unhappy recipients. But I've done a couple of thousand gallbladder operations over my 30 or so years of being a surgeon, and have literally a handful of patients who wish they'd not had it done. And the same is true for hernia repairs, intestinal surgery, etc, etc.

by Bobbi339, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
Thank you for your comments!

by tessa0825, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
I would like to add  that most people that have positive outcomes dont normally post about it....It is the people that are looking for answers because they have had problems post op that seek out the support or message boards...The majority just recover and go on their merry way. When we are looking for answers we come here and only read about the negative...I have had no complications related to my GB removal but I do have other non GB related medical problems that keeps me searching for answers on these boards. When I can offer my support about a positive outcome then I try to do that....Its a shame that not everyone can be guaranteed to have a positive outcome but most things dont come with 100% guarantees.....To the original poster:....Im sorry that you have had such a hard time following your surgery and I hope you will soon feel better...........Tessa

by rainyb, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
Does anyone have comments on age and gallstones? My 17 year old daughter was diagnosed with sludge and stones in February and has had 7 serious attacks since,she has elevated liver enzymes and I am very worried about recovery and long term damage. We are waiting for surgery.

by nadia, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
A surgical clip was left inside? I may be just a layman, but is that supposed to happen?  If not, I would think that someone should be held accountable.



More people who have gallbladder attacks without stones should be informed by their doctors that removal may not always effect a cure. Don't be afraid to ask questions and do lots of research yourself.  I never knew that so many people had problems after the removal of their gallbladder and it isn't just on this site.  Just do a search on Post Cholecystectomy Pain Syndrome.

by nadia, Apr 29, 2003 12:00AM
They left the clip in? Was that supposed to happen?  I may be just a layman but shouldn't someone be accountable for that?



More people should be informed by their doctors that removal of their gallbladder when no stones are present doesn't always effect a cure. Go into this surgery well informed. Ask questions and do the research on the internet.  If I had known about all the people who are having difficulties after their surgery, I may not have jumped into it like I did. And it isn't just on this site, just do a search on Post Cholecystectomy Pain Syndrome.

by lemonhead, Apr 30, 2003 12:00AM
I have my gallbladder out in 1998 and have had absolutely NO problems associated with it. I think what surgeon and others have said is true -- that the internet (and bds like this one) are littered with stories of people who have problems with their procedures and are looking for answers. The people who have no problems with their procedures are just out there busy living their lives.



It's easy to get misinformed (and worried) about health issues when you search on the internet bc there is so much information out there from so many different sources. I always stick to reputable sites (like those from nationally known organizations, the NIH or similar) bc those will probably have the most accurate statistics.



Anyway, just wanted to say that there are THOUSANDS of people who don't have problems associated with their gallbladder being removed. You might want to take that into consideration as you ponder whether to have this surgery. Good luck with the decision.



lemonhead

by shaelynn, May 01, 2003 12:00AM
I am sorry to hear about your problem. I would be hesitant to return to the surgeon that left a clip in me. can you get another opinion?  I had mine out 1  1/2 ago and have had nothing but problems since then. Chronic diarrhea, nausea, etc.  Please get another opinion and see what they say.

by BonnyT, May 01, 2003 12:00AM
I believe surgeon and Dr. Kevin would tell you that a clip is always applied to the cystic duct portion that remains after surgery. The problem here was as surgeon stated, a technical error occured and the clip was applied to the common bile duct instead. Please continue to follow up on this. Injuries to the common bile duct are rare during a lap cholecystectomy but I believe are directly related to the learning curve and experience of the surgeon. Also no one should continue to suffer with chronic diarrhea after this procedure, there are medications that can help. I have absolutely no studies to support this but firmly believe adequate hydration (water) will help keep bile more dilute and may prevent some of these post cholecystectomy problems. Read "Your Body's Many Cries For Water" by a physician, it is an intersting book. I made the very difficult decision that surgery