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Anxiety and physical symptoms
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Roger Gould, M.D. - Mental Health, Wellness
Questions posted in the Mental Health forum are being answered by Dr. Roger L. Gould, author of the Mastering Stress and Depression program and affiliated with the UCLA. Department of Psychiatry. Topics covered include anger, attention deficit disorder (ADD), bipolar disorder, dementia, electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), learning disabilities, memory, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), panic, personality disorders, phobias, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), schizophrenia, stress, transitions, and work problems.

Anxiety and physical symptoms

by Jani34, Aug 02, 2004 12:00AM
Hello,

I’m 34 years old Swedish male, I hope I can get my English somehow understandable.. My problems started last October – almost a year ago. Before that I was healthy, no health problems whatsoever. In October 2003 I started getting these fatigue attacks, only way to describe it is that I felt really, really tired and my arms and hands felt especially weak. I’m computer programmer and days at work were really hard.. It was like my hands were losing their power. I went to doctor, they checked my blood – everything ok..

I tried gym, exercise 3 or 4 times a week and hoped that I would soon feel better.

Well, in January things just got worse. I was tired all the time. And this problem with hands – it was getting worse. I checked the net with Google and started to panic as all my symptoms seemed to point at ALS. Weakness of arms,  fatigue.. I couldn’t sleep. Went to doctor, old friend (family doctor). He did a complete neurological check and found   nothing to worry about. But he still advised me to go to see a neurologist since he could see I was not convinced. I did that and the neurologist agreed with my doctor, nothing to worry about. Except my shouldersexercise! He also advised me to take EMG test to get rid of the ALS scare. I did that and the result was completely normal. I was also checked very thoroughly for other diseases, very very complete check of my blood as my doctor said. This was in March. Well, since then my symptoms have remained. Occasionally, many times during the week – I get these “fatigue attacks”. I just feel I have to sit down. And I’ve been doing sports all my life.. Also I have slight tremor or twitching in my right hand, between thumb and index finger. Almost always when I stretch my thumb. Other symptoms are “red face”. I get this every now and then, I feel really sweaty and I have really red face. With no reason whatsoever. It is like I had flu.. but I can’t have flu all the time!.. Slight tremor in hands. Slight “internal tremor” in legs. Almost all the time, also in the mornings after a good sleep.  When I try to look for reason from the net.. It just gets worse.. All kinds of neurological diseases.. ALS…Parkinsons.. Finally, a week ago I checked this site and was really, really relieved to read some postings with people with same symptoms and talking about anxiety. It seems I fit in every way to the classic anxiety patient.. Maybe here is the key to my problems..

My question ( and I’m sorry it too so long ..) finally is : How long can the anxiety symptoms last? How long can I wait for them to go away? I still feel sick: slight tremor in hands when using the muscles ( no rest tremor), fatigue, arms feel weak. When I hold my hands on the keyboard they shiver “internally”. I also have muscle ache in the neck and shoulders.  Doctors have said I’m ok, but this was in March.. I get the symptoms every day.

Is is really possible that anxiety symptoms are SO REAL, so physical? I do not feel the anxiety mentally, it is just the physical symptoms. As for my “mental life”, no problems. Except for this panic having a serious neurological disease... No medication, no problems in the family. My parents are really supportive as is my girl friend. I just feel really bad for making them so worried for my health. I have always been  “a worried person” though. This I have to admit, I worry extensively about the health of my family: girl friend and parents.. Also 2  years ago, I had really though times as a good friend of mine died of cancer. But this was, like I said, some time ago and my problems started later, last autumn. I understand anxiety can cause physical symptoms but generally how long can these last and especially when there is no reason to be anxious about. I know I should be happy after every test result being ok.. Thank You very much for all the advice you can give.

by Roger Gould, M.D., Aug 03, 2004 12:00AM
I wrote a book that might help you get a perspective on what I am about to say. It is called Transformations; Growth and Change in Adult LIfe. and you can probably still get it on Amazon.



At your age people naturally begin to explore the deeper mysteries of life, especially their internal life and what life is all about.  YOur friends death is a vivid reminder of limited time, and for a worrier, a reminder of unpredictable dangers. These are the kind of things that cause this kind of deep anxiety to surface.  Your best approach would be to find someone, a therapist, to talk too during this period. In addition, anti-anxiety medications would be useful, but only on a temporary basis.  The more you approach this with full consciousness, the better.  This definetly sounds like an anxiety reaction.
Member Comments (12)

by blueyze, Aug 05, 2004 12:00AM
Not a good idea to self diagnose yourself, this is getting you so worried and anxious..just go with the facts (the physical symptoms) and family history and present this to your Dr. As a nurse, when going through school, I thought I had everything I was reading about...and yes you feel panicked when your reading into the medical world...It's good to be educated, but don't diagnose your illness yourself please...the internet (google) can be overwhelming when you start to read about signs and symptoms of certain health problems...and will cause a frenzy reaction...leaving yourself thinking, I show this smyptom of that..and this symptom..and wow I have that symptom of another thing...Take the actual physical facts to your Dr. and if your not satisfied with their answer, and still insist something is wrong...get a second opinion..or third..etc..but look deep into the family history and then compare your symptoms to that...(not google) this is vital information for the Dr.

Good Luck...and your not alone :)

by NervousRN, Aug 06, 2004 12:00AM
Hi there.  Just wanted to give my input here.  I, too, am an RN.  I am currently in grad school to be a Family Nurse Practitioner.  I had a panic attack last fall -- probalby from the stress of working and going to school full time.  I did not realize at the time that I was having a panic attack.  I was convinced I was having heart problems.  After I got over that thought, I decided I had ALS or MS or something.  It's too easy to let yourself believe you hae a terrible disease.  Anxiety takes control of rational thoughts sometimes.  Last May I finally realized that I must have anxiety.  I started on Zoloft.  I am doing much better now.  Not perfect, though.  The meds have made it so my thoughts aren't centered around my health and what must be wrong with me.  I still get tingling in my fingers and toes, and I get muscle spasms.  I have these even when I don't mentally feel anxious (or don't think I feel anxious, anyway).  Have visited many sites like this one.  Very reassuring to know others have these same feeling, don't you think?  I mean, we can't all have MS, ALS, etc, can we!?!  I am not sure what symptoms are caused by anxiety and which may be side effects of the meds.  All I know is that this is something that is part of my daily life and I must discover ways to deal with it.  For me, just continuing with what I need to do helps keep my mind off the physical symptoms.  I hope that someday I will be better and this won't be something I have to deal with daily for the rest of my life.  

Hang in there.  It will get better!

by polaro, Aug 18, 2004 12:00AM
Hi my name is Jennifer and I am 29 yrs old. Last week for no reason at all I started having anxiety attacks bad ones I lost 5lbs. in a week over them, I thought I had every disease going, I thought I had Cancer, thyroid problems heart problems you name it I thought I had them, When I get these attacks my arms go weak, and I just feel strange, the only thing that bothers me about them is that I have 2 babies that need me and I just can not believe that I am going through this I am scared and I just want them to stop, I dont know what brought them on the only thing that has happened to me is that my grama past away 2 yrs. ago and a friend of our just died of cancer and in May my father almost died, but it is 3 months after and they just started.

by platinum, Aug 18, 2004 12:00AM
To: Polaro
After a period of time, things build up and that is when the attacks begin.  If you are a worrier like I am, they seem to come harder and you can't get them out of your mind because you are worried about it happening again.  Well I have not taken the SSRI prescribed to me yet but after much research on cognitive therapy, I have found that if you "run" from them and keep saying you just want them to go way, it makes it worse.  I am right there with you so I know first hand.  You have to tell the attack "that you are not afraid, come with it in full force and I cvan pretty much guess that the attack will not come.  I do this and it works for me.  The anxiety is scaring you so you are giving it more power.  Belief me it is hard to do this because all you want is for it to go away but if you go about it the "wrong" way they stay longer.  I hope this helps a little because like I said, I am right with with the little children and all.  Be well and good luck with everything.  If you need anything else, I am usually checking posts everyday or you can email if you choose.

by polaro, Aug 19, 2004 12:00AM
Platinum I woke up fine this morning actually a little bit better then I have and now here it is 11:00 and I am having those feelings again I told them that I am not afraid of them but they are still here I am at my wits end with them I dont know what else to do. I am sick and tired of feeling Like this I look terrible, and the only thing that is really scaring me is my weight and my face looks pail and I dont know if this is normal or not I called my Dr. 3x's yesterday and he never called me back

by platinum, Aug 19, 2004 12:00AM
I also find that if I stay busy I tend to "forget about it".  By no way am I saying it's easy.  Can you think of what it is that is creating the anxiety.  Are you afraid of something (besides dying) that is scaring you or stressing you out?  When my "stressors" are present and I know I am streesing or worrying about it, I give the problem my full attention, think it thru and let the anxety "know" that I am in control.  Also this may seem strange to you but you say you are afraid of dying which is part of the anxiety.  You asked why this is a symptom and I am looking forward to what the doctor says.  When you get the thought, immediately offset it with yeah I am going to die and I'm ready to.  If you are not afraid to die (so to speak) then the fear of it happening can't be there.  I know it's strange and believe me I didn't see me saying that but for me it works.  This theory is a part of cognitive therapy and it supposedly helps with the intrusive thoughts.  You are fueling the power of the anxiety by giving it your undivided attention.  I KNOW how hard this is and that is why I am trying to help.  Best of luck and I hope you can get a past this real soon.

by Jani34, Aug 23, 2004 12:00AM
Thank You all for your comments :-)

It is really a big relief to read stories about people having the same symptoms and going through the same thing.