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from court ordered class to 5 diagnosed MI , 5 mind altering drugs,
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from court ordered class to 5 diagnosed MI , 5 mind altering drugs,

by ortley, Nov 21, 2004 12:00AM
my ex-husband  is trapped in jail and cmh has created a zombie.  He has only a pv for drop dirty as has occured about 20 times in 8 years.  No funding available for rehab, his relapse came after given concerta, known to cause mania and violence from the one prior pshychotic episode when administered for adhd, still he was handed a jail sentance after just finishing 8 months in county, in that bottle of pills without regards.  In 2 weeks he returned after hurting me and himself badley, in drug induced mania, punished with this long stay again in county that seems to have no end , no court date, no hope, especially for the deteriorating man who just stares at me asking if I know the time.  I see him half hour once a week and still love him as I did 8 years ago.  I divorced him for parole agents who said funding could only arrive that route.  He is huge , twice the weight of the beginning of this.  He takes saraquel 400mg,zyprexia 15mg , depekote 2000mg, topamax im unsure of dosage, he too was on gabitrol 4mg until tremors began.  No labs for about 2 years until i called every possible agency that could help our plight as he was in jail and jerkings so bad his coffee spilled as the result.  He is seen by cmh, they have never allowed us to have family counciling .  His files describe great turmoil in relationships, including ours, and he was encouraged always to save up to move away from his only support system.  Ide phone often, inquiring voicing concerns, tatteling even at times, only to be told i have no release so speak my mind but expect nothing from his long term therapists.  The files, after 8 years i have full access, are exactly the details of what our family of 4 (2 kids) endured, but not exactly at all resembeling the plans of treatments each new approach gave.  The disregard of what ravishing effect mental illness has not only on the effected one, but on immediate family allowed my violent abuse, finanacial failure for our family, distorted perseptions for 2 small children who lived for the 8 years with a very ill , unpredictable, unstabalized,  stepparent and never were an allowence or awknowledgement paid a family once.  What do we do.  Hes a zombie.  Hes 28, gone now the best years of life.  Concerta induced this new mania.  Still cmh just drugs him.  I'm with facial scars, diminished vision, fractures. The kids are still growing and watching and invisible and I write endless inquiries saying theres no blame or complaint in my heart, just pleas for mercy, instructions for reprieves in a realistic timely manner, or just kind words that give an assurance my loved one will be treated at last as human, as worthy, and as is instructed by the bible and by the authoritive bodies of gov.  I paid with college savings to the newest attorney and i wonder is there a way to gain attention to my ex so I can finally show my children their great importance which would allow my own to be doubled.
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by Roger Gould, M.D., Nov 22, 2004 12:00AM
The only thing I can think of is finding an obudsman in the hospital of the county. You might ask the social worker on the unit or the county social service to help you.
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by ortley, Nov 21, 2004 12:00AM
im the author of this subject.  I cant put 8 years in a sentance.  I must add i am already aware of the rights officer, the kindness factor, superiors, diversions, ACT team, IOP, PRS, commitals, self commitals, t-houses, all of the worn out alternatives tried instead, ever , of trying family supports, family counseling, family awareness, any family centered treatement is blatently with no regard.Because my loved one used as a scrapegoat, a sentance easer, an out at all encounters with the raging symptoms of bipolar, ptsd, adhd, anti-social disorder, poly addiction and violent tendencies , me the one he knew could bear the glares , I am labeled his partner for his regressions.  Had ever anyone suggested I join with the children in plans of treatments it would have been crystal clear what i held on my strong shoulders.   A family, I want to post, should greatly matter to the care, especially deeply emeshed care involving the justice system that could topple progress in therapy , so acceptances perhaps can allow understanding of accountability , something i know well, as do the kids.  Not my loved one, he misunderstands consequence, he cowers at the punishments.  Rewards would have done wonders. When cmh joins dept. of corrections its all over for the MI.  Like I saw, if honesty including reality occured, disclosures allowed both agencies relief through a cell.  I read the interview that regarded this site, I guess perhaps then someone could not judge, not seek out fault, not hear any "whys", and just say here is an example of our systems failures.  Ask us what results of disregard, medicinal follies, disclosures allowed, information denied, dillusions discussed as realities, families forgotten, honesty as accountabilities, and divorce as so disregarded its forced just for funding, then diabolical minds dissalow association based on divorce forced with threats delivered by attorneys letters paid for  by the invisible.  Sad, sick, and seeking reward for our stance as the willingly defeated.  A thank you for not wanting money, for not giving names, for not holding accountable those who cant see us, those who cant hear us yet those are who reaped fundings because of our silence, your welcome for being able to not have ever to know us beyond an ill persons portrayal.I have began to find voice in letters.  Just letters that ask to be heard.  My voice is long gone in tone, strangled away by the hands that once embraced me in safety, before cmh was ordered and as always, orders were honored.  No victims rights were allowed me ,  somehow no recording was made of charges for violence , arrests for violationg ppos, or testimonies about an unstable mind needing help, not cells that he now lives in.  Manistee county,

someone should notice what lives they are stealing even lives of the children I watched a county deny the communities warmth as pursuit of a seriously ill parent was with sirens, dogs, bull horns, and handcuffs.  Personally in 8 years ive had multiple charges and one misdemenor conviction of no security, and also was arrested for 2 parking tickets i did plead guilty and pay almost $300., only to get a notice from the credit burea i still owe them.  so can you tell me docs, are you with any knowledge of any date of conclusion for these details I know are my families real endured tragedies.  We should be analized and studied, can you offer any suggestions where we might get $75. bucks or something to be test rats?  HMMMM. prtly

by ortley, Nov 21, 2004 12:00AM
Jeez, I was just released from jail .  True story, that no security conviction, I was sentenced to 2 years probation and 1200.00 fine. I began relocating , forced out of the community though no not one thing that documents anything but our abuse and its effects, and I found a card on my owned first homes door last week.  Child protective services.  They went to the childrens school.  I called them, of course, and in moments the agents were facing me, the again accused.  I now frequented drug houses, so the trooper, karen Roy, who has had 17 contacts, all dismissals but those 2 parking tickets in collections, reported another slanderioius distructive false unwarrented vindictive accusation, that as always , was disregarded as without documented proofs, evidences or anything beyond she said it was so, proved commen yet again.  This however came after an agent of utter importance to my parental rights learned my face,address, childrens class schedules, enough information to mar my name againas seems her wish.  The denied claim,is on my record.  The second Roy inaugurated. The first when I called 911 the one and only time ever, i had been beaten severely, she reported me as a worthless parent and took pictures  not of me but of the broken home the Mentally ill, concerta allergic, manic man, had just laid to ruin.  Female,the only one who could have documented the extreme contusions in private areas with the camara, saved the film to click pictures of the details to my decents beginnings into silence.  That second report was followed with a summons that was entirely blank except a date i must answer to an unknown charge, for an unknown reason, in violation of and unknown order. Really.  This is true happenings in this county. I froze in fear.  MY ill husband has been kept jailed with no requirement of anything like sentance dates, facts, bonds, anything, his rights are intact, his mind is numbed only by drugs handed from those who have no obligations to him.  Hes invisible, but mentally ill, he could be unpredictable in a cell as easily as in his home, then what, he goes to prison for life.  I just sat jailed with no charges.  Over 72 hours.  My non reporting probation apparently is now reporting and comes with drug screeens as well.  The agents said I failed that test .  I was told thc was the drug.  Then 4 hours later came an agent telling me now it was instead cocaine.  Then Im told theres a hold in a far away county so i am to stay in a place until then ide never once ever been at all.  Im 38,  sole supporter, household manager, mother, and also for 8 years detail documentor of tragedy upon tragedy, now nearly a book, my daughter would call a "chapter book".  The drug team twice spoke to me and told me I was known to recently have large amounts of cocaine.  Now, I was months ago in detox, then on a 5 week away from old playmates sabatical, and proudly was attending NA , moving to a beautiful home in the nicest side of a shoreline city, and enrolling also my disregarded lovely daughter in a school known as Monasourri.  I was light as air until the blank paper froze life again.  The drug team said if I told on someone i could go home sooner.  Sooner.  Then what I thought, my now ex-husband.  Then someone who actually had a crime backed by fact, evidence.  Sure i said, everyone knows who I said I personally could trap , and in the 62nd hour, 24 past the interview we waited nearly 2 months to finally attend, was news of the bond of $100.00 for that hold keeping me in jail.  Then night came and went, morning did too,and lunch too.  Then about 80 hours away from life the man who sent the blank paper brought a duplicate blank paper.  Ide asked to be seen by CMH 48 hours prior and the worker arrived with the paper and also my choice offered to see her or be released.  Oh, of course i chose a clinics therapy over freedom, NOT>  Denied care again.  Oh well, probably for the best.  I have no charges, no chance to plea unfair, tampered with, altered, or injustice allowed by authorities.  The judge is gone until next Tuesday, no 72 hour arraignments, but arrests continue to be allowed.  I was informed i am t attend counceling.  Im to report in 2 weeks to a county i dont live in the borders of.  Over a year ago a judge told me to follow orders he recited.  Today those are changed, by a field agent, without a charge, proof, anything, im on reporting, rediculious 60 mile away probation.  So doc, counceling ordered by the court, is this wise, healthy , commen practice for cmh to say ok no problem?

I'll go to a lawyer at god knows what cost this time for fake charges, and lofty attendence orders to head drs.  I write, Maybe that deems me ill, I'm a victim , severe long term violence, childhood abuse, adolesent abuses, beatings as a child beatings as a women.  My shoulders are strong , not so wide, but lucky am I to still own the head i predict is expected to be offered up as sacrafice for for for, oh nothing again, NOT.  If you read this, if you hear at alater date that thorns die once pierced in ones side, doubt it.  Can I be reffered to a private therapist who , since this is ordered, is paid by the state.  I can prove extreme conflict within the health care for mental things, and myself.  I can prove disregard, deciept, endangerment, intent to defraud funding facilities, beyond intent, to the application of fake facts on a mans permanent record that includes the family no one ever spoketo because funding flowed freely without us. As manistee claimed my husband was homeless and single block grants flowed, as he sat incarcerated.  Sad , over and over taxes stolen, we lived in poverty, paying fines, car insurance for constant reporting to IOP, OP, PP., AA,NA all ordered, funded, and rarely attended because of bars between those dollars and our family.  Im told i have to pay for jail.  Wait till court on that .  Wow.  So Doc, you calling your buddies, telling them to be forwarned, or instead could you hobknob with an attorney and say theres this family i came across, they have poor grammer, but a hell of an ability to document every fact that is remembered in detail.  Stacks of documents, real, blatent abuses, violations, thefts, lies, and all I have is a scarred face, disregarded internal wound from abuse the ER Dr writes as my "denial of sodimization" and that the court denies ever even exsisted.  What will it require to heal me Doc? Any suggestions? prtly

by Timmy256, Dec 07, 2004 12:00AM
To: Prtley
What county is it?
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