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Subject: Re: butt & leg pain Siatica
Forum: The Neurology and Neurosurgery Forum
Topic Area: Pain
Posted by CCF Neurology MD - AY on September 20, 1998 at 22:47:59:
In Reply to: butt & leg pain Siatica posted by Irene on September 20, 1998 at 20:49:48:



I've been in pain since 4/23/98

I have had 3 epidurals, 1 facet block, all did nothing to help with the pain.
Here are some of the procedures my doctor has done to find the problem;

MRI: results 5/19/98
L3-4 mild diffuse disc bulge/with ligamenum flavum/mild side to side lateral canal stenosis.
L4-5 mild diffuse disc bulge/with ligamenum flavum/mild lateral canal stenosis.
L4-S1 5 m. focal central disc protusion/mild impression on the ventral aspect of the thecal sac. Central canal & intervertebal foramina appear normal.

Lumbar Myelogram results: 9/8/98
L3-4 mild ventral impression and at L4-5, slightly greater at L3-4.
L1-2 normal
L2-3 Normal
L3-4 mild focal roght paramedian disc protrusion with disc extending 6 mm, beyond the vertebral body margin midly indenting the vental subarachnold space bot not extending into the foramen.

L4-5 Mild diffuse ventral impression extending apporx. 4 mm. posterior to the vertebral body margin.

L5-S1 There is a central fairly focal protrusion which indents the central aspect of the sac but is mostly involving the epidural fat.

My question is this, I've been through P/T since late April for pain management and am now using a TENs unit, which only helps a little. Since the last test of the myelogram my doctor says that he feels my pain is caused by soft tissue. What I want to know is how this is possable, I can feel as though a nerve is being pinched some how. I still have great pain in my left butt and leg, going all the way down to my foot. At times, my foot feels as if it is on fire. I can only walk for a short period before the pain get so intense that I must lay down, and standing for more than 15 minutes is even worse. COULD THIS DOCTOR HAVE MISSED SOMETHING!!!!!!!
If I have all these disc protrusions and mild stenosis, how then could it be only soft tissue causing all my pain. Your opion is greatly needed. ASAP
I do not know where to go from here at this point.

Thank you
Irene W.



Thanks for your question. The symptoms described in your message are
fairly typical of "spinal claudication". Although the exact mechanism
of action is still not well established, spinal claudication is described
as a positional dependent pain/discomfort in the lower-back/gluteal region
that may or may not propagate further down the legs. Many times, the simple
act of standing up (without moving/walking around) triggers the symptoms.
Therefore, patients often complain about not being able to stand up for
a prolonged period of time - sometimes even brushing the teeth in front
of the basin is enough to trigger the pain. Spinal claudication most
often is associated with stenosis of the spinal canal (such as your case).
You did not mention an Electromyography (EMG) in your posting. It is a
test that would help evaluate objectively any degree of nerve damage
either intra-canal, or as the nerves exit the vertebral column.

If you would like a second opinion, I suggest a consultation/referral to
a neurologist specialized in peripheral nervous system or neuromuscular
disease.

If you live in the Cleveland area, the Department of Neurology at the Cleveland
Clinic has a group of neurologists specialized in such area (Drs. Levin,
Mitsumoto, Pioro, and Shields).

If you wish an appointment at the Department of Neurology at the Cleveland
Clinic, please call 1-800-CCF-CARE, or 1-216-444-5559.

I hope this information is helpful. Best of luck.

This information is provided for general medical education purposes only.
Please consult your doctor regarding diagnostic and treatment options.

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