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Chronic Neck Pain

by rod, Sep 28, 1999 12:00AM
I am a 33 year old male who had a tennis injury 7 years ago.  A popping or cracking noise was heard while reaching and twisting my head at the same time.  Very little movement was possible the next day and I was put into a cervical collar. X-rays did not show any damage.  Everything was fine except that I put up with many years of slight discomfort in that I couldn't tilt my head back without pain.  After a re-injury on a trampoline 16 months ago, I finally got it checked out. Yes, silly me.



My doctor referred me to a physiotherapist and after 6 visits with no results, she recommended that I see a chiropractor.  After seeing the chiropractor for almost 30 visits over 10 months, results were disappointing.  My range of motion improved, but still the restricted aft head tilt with pain.  About 9 months ago, I noticed tingling a slight numbness in my left hand.



Meanwhile, with consultations with my doctor, he ordered more cervical X-rays, which showed "mild spur formation at C5-6 and bilateral cervical ribs at C7".  



I was then referred to an orthopaedic surgeon.  He ordered a bone scan and it "shows normal appearances in the cervical spine".  He concluded that the problem is a "diffuse soft tissue and joint sprain and this would be capable of treatment with continued chiropractic manipulation".  I had asked for a recommendation for a MRI and he disagreed, saying, "I did not believe that this would in any way alter treatment."  



Anyway, I went to a private clinic for a cervical MRI.  This was done 7 months ago and the results are:  "The cervical lordosis is normal.  No abnormalities of the bone marrow are seen.  The signal intensity of the spinal cord appears normal.  The C2-3, C3-4, C6-7, and C7-T1 intervertebral discs appear normal in signal intensity and morphology.  Minimal degenerative signal loss is evident at the C4-5 disc level, but the morphology of this disc appears normal.  The C5-6 intervertebral disc is narrowed and demonstrates diminished signal intensity.  A small broad-based disc protrusion is evident at this level and is associated with uncinate process hypertrophy, resulting in minimal foraminal stenosis bilaterally, but worse on the left.  Minimal canal stenosis is present at the C5-6 level resulting in mild cord compression.  Conclusions:  Degenerative changes and small disc protrusion at the C5-6 level with minimal foraminal stenosis, especially worse on the left."



I took this to my doctor and he then referred me to a neurologist.  He gave me a quick examination and the only thing he noticed was "Tinel's test at both elbows was positive, but either ulnar nerve at the elbow subluxed."  His conclusion was that he agreed with the orthopaedic surgeon "that I think he has a chronic soft tissue problem with his neck and I don't think we will be able to pin it down to any particular structure.  I don't think any form of surgical therapy is indicated here, and after seven years it is probable that the patient will continue to have neck symptoms which should be treated conservatively."



Since all of this, my symptoms are getting worse as the neck pain has worsened and my left hand tingling is constant.  I haven't had any chiropractic manipulations since last April.  So where do I go from here?  Can this be "pinned down". Help!



Otherwise, I am in excellent health with only post varicose vein surgery 9 years ago.





by CCF neuro MD MM, Sep 28, 1999 12:00AM
I think it is possible that you will not be a suitable candidate for surgery. For a surgery to be successful there need to be an obvious clear cut problem which need to be corrected and which is obviously causing your symptoms.

If the surgeon feels that the disc protrusion is not impressive enough on the scan it is unlikely that a surgical procedure will work.

The main factor which would decide if surgery is necesary would be if it can be demonsrated that there are diagnostic findings in the territory of the nerve root which enmerges at the left C5-C6 level. The best way to do this would be by means of an EMG, if the EMG supports this then there is some evidence that a surgery would be useful, if not then the soft tissuue theory is probably correst. I understand your frustration in this whole scenario, but nobody wants to put you through an unnecessary surgical procedure with out a realistic chance that it will make a difference. I would recommend an EMG as your next step.

Member Comments (11)

by Valerie, Sep 29, 1999 12:00AM
Sounds similar to some of my symtoms.  I have cervical dystonia.  Severe pain and neck tilted to the left.  There are several sites on the web about dystonia.  Try a search for more clinical info.



by Karin Underwood - Physiotherapist, Oct 11, 1999 12:00AM
I am an Australian physiotherapist and after reading your post Rod, I tended to agree with the orthopaedic surgeon too.



There are neck exercises that can help reduce cervical disc protrusion that a good physiotherapist will be able to demonstrate. Neural tension in your upper quadrant has probably developed over this time and I find many of my clients benefit from these stretches.



I would say don't despair Rod, I'm sure there is a good physiotherapist who could improve your symptyoms.



by Susan Logue, Oct 21, 1999 12:00AM
Rod, I've had anterior cervical fusion surgery and surgery will not cure your pain. I would stop the chiropractor too. I was in your spot in 1993 when I only had a bulging disc at C4-5, 5-6, and 6-7. The more "treatments" I had the worse it got. I'd been careful, stopped working, and took care of myself until, wow, 3 years later it's now a ruptured disc. I think that high velocity neck cracking by the chiropractor ruptured it! The doc who responded is right about the EMG and everything else. I ended up having all the stuff on my test results and probably did need the surgery, but I still can't work and I still have pain. I think you sound like you have really good, contientious docs treating you. Good luck and cool it with the trampoline! Susan

by Debbie Ramos, Nov 02, 1999 12:00AM
Rod,Only consider surgery as your last resort! I had disc herniation at 3 levels. I tried many alternative forms of treatment-P.T.,traction,exercises and various meds. I was under the care of an excellant spine specialist-one of the best in the north east. Surgery was done only after everything else failed. The bone fusion took well but 1 year after surgery I am still in much pain. Spinal surgery is very unpredictable even with the best doctor. I am currently under the care of a pain management clinicand will never be able to return to work. Please be sure to try every alternative before you consider surgery. I can sympathize with your pain and wish you the best in your search for relief.    Debbie

by Charlotte, Nov 14, 1999 12:00AM
I am 37 years old and have had pain and stiffness in mostly the right side of my neck for as long as I can remember. Over the last 6-7 months, I have been experiencing a stabbing pain in my right shoulder (more spefically, behind the right shoulder blade) that has gotten progressively worse. Laying or resting on the right side makes the pain more severe. I had played a lot of softball while I was in high school and college, and at one point, had what appeared to be a bone spur or bursitis in the right shoulder, I was unable to move the shoulder for several days without severe pain.



I have seen my internal doctor and she has placed me on an anti-inflammatory and a muscle relaxant, I have been to an orthopedist and he performed x-rays and an MRI that shows nothing. He tells me that he is stumped and does not understand the reason for the pain, and suggests that I have a bone scan done only to rule out the possibility of anything else that could be occurring.