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Spinal injury. Symptoms: Orthopedic or Neurologist Consults? Or both?
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Spinal injury. Symptoms: Orthopedic or Neurologist Consults? Or both?

by cammie, Jan 22, 2000 12:00AM
I was injured 9 days ago while assisting to transfer a patient. I have continous pain in the lumbar area of my back. Like forced pressure. Often I have sharp shooting pains that radiate to my hips and down my left leg to the knee area. None past there. Once while waiting to be seen at the closest E.R., on my 2nd visit, my left leg became numb and when I stood up I had to have assistance walking. This occured once after that visit. I am able to stand, walk slowly. I am unable to stand or sit for periods over 10-15 minutes at longest due to increasing pressure & pain felt in my lower back. If I continue either of these activities longer it leads to the shooting sharp pains. As if they are firing one after the other bringing me to tears. During the visit to an orthopedic physician, I was able to slowly get to a supine position, raise the right leg fairly well. But when lifting the left leg caused great pain, sharp and increased pressure. Standing I was able to lean to the right about 65-70 degrees, to the left only about 45 degrees..both resulting in pain, yet worse with the left. No nausea at that time. I say this because I have been asked by each physician I have seen that question.  I was told he suspected torn muscles or torn ligaments from the spine, placed on steroids and talwin for pain. Several hours after the visit I had a strange moderately painful headache and stomach queasiness*. No vomiting. It passed away after a while. Later, after dinner,and taking the new medicines for the first time, I noted another the strange headache again, nausea that ultimately led to copious vomiting. Almost immediately after emptying the contents of my stomach the headache was gone.  These headaches were unlike any I experienced before. Not migraines and not just irritations.



I am an RN, not that that matters in this case. But I know a little. I personally feel I need to see a Neurologist and am becoming more concerned about this headache and nausea I am feeling as I type this.  If you please, could you in some way shed some light on this. I haven't taken anymore of the medicine since the regurgitation episode and my food was prepared as it should have been. Other family members didn't experience this either. Could these S/S be related to the spinal injury? Could this injury be more than just torn muscles & ligaments?



Sincerely in need,

Cammie

by CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS, Jan 22, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Cammie:



Sorry to hear about your back problems.  I think you need to see a neurologist.  I think what your symptoms and your head are telling you is that you may have injured your spine.  It sounds like your having radicular pain, especially when you tell me it radiates down you leg (sounds very sciatic nerve-like).  Does the radiating pain happen when you cough or sneeze?  Anyway, you need to see a neurologist (also neurosurgeon) and get an MRI of your lumbar spine.  Do not get an open MRI but the usual closed MRI.  Your vomiting is likely medication induced.



Let us know what happens.



Sincerely,



CCF Neuro MD
Member Comments (9)

by Brainstem Compression..Craniectomy 8 mos, Jan 22, 2000 12:00AM
Hi CCF,  I have a quick question regarding episodes transient like attacks of numb left side of face,numb tongue, difficult swallowing and slurred speech?  I have Arnold-CHiari Malformation type 1 decompressed over 8 mos ago, then 2 mos ago symptoms started coming back ..but now having constant neck and back pain with headaches.  Then within the last week developed episodes like TIAS has described above lasting a short while with breathing distress.  I keep having these attacks daily. They are very frightening...can this be related to my ACM or could it be another source?



Thanks, Ann

by CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS, Jan 23, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Ann:



The symptoms you describe are usually the reason given for having decompression procedure of a Chiari I malformation in the first place.  To be having them status post surgery might indicate instability of the surgical procedure.  I would call your neurosurgeon and tell him/her about the symptoms.



Sincerely,



CCF Neuro MD

by Cathy, Feb 03, 2000 12:00AM
I  have been in two car accidents and I have severe low back pain that radiates down my left leg all the way to the end of my toes. I have had two MIR's and both showed different results. I am so much in pain and the doctor told me that the MIR's are not always accurret. I am starting to believe that there is nothing that can be done about my pain. I would like to know why I am having this much pain and my last 5-view exray said, impression: Bilateral L5 spondylosis without spondylolisthesis. Also, it states that, There are rudimentary rids at T12.  What exactly does that mean and could it have anything to do with my neck? My neck also hurts very badly and radiates down my left arm to my finger tips.  I am a mess and no one can tell me why. I was very active now I can't sit, stand, or walk for very long about 10-15 min. at a time but it is worse when I sit. (5-min) What is wrong and what do I do?

                     in a lot of pain,

                            Cathy

by CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS, Feb 04, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Cathy:



Sorry your in pain.  I can't tell you about why 2 MRI's would give different results because MRI will only show anatomy.  The reader of the films differ and that may be the source of the differences.  Your description of the MRI indicate that changes have occured in the lumbar part of your spine.  These would not give you neck pain.  The radiation of pain down your leg might come from the L5 area of spondylosis, especially if the cord was compromised.  I would ask your neurologist or neurosurgeon to go over the MRI films with you.  I have never heard of "rids", so I can't make a comment on that finding.



Sincerely,



CCF Neuro MD

by Tonya on Tuesday Feb.15/2000, Feb 15, 2000 12:00AM
I hurt my lower back lifting about 5 months ago . Why would it be affecting my upper back also especially if i do anything streuous i suffer later for it.I've had a closed in mri done it came back normal.Can you give me any suggestions please .

by CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS, Feb 17, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Tonya:



I would see your neurologist, without an examination I am alittle uncertain of why the back pain.  The normal