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buzzing
by tania again, add to question, Jul 20, 2000 12:00AM
Please help. I have had weird symptoms for a few months (tingling, brief numbness, stabbing burning pains, neck pains, muscle soreness, my eye feels flittery and fuzzy at times, and twitching everywhere. Some of the twitches are rapid and hard and very visible and others are calm and quiet). My neuro suggested fibro, so I saw a rhuematologist. She said I definitely have some of the symptoms of fibro,but she said we should not rule out MS yet(have a relative with ms). She suggested I see another neuro to double check. Now, I have another symtpom I am unsure about--buzzing. The bottom of my feet buzz/vibrate/feel like they are asleep a lot. I feel this mainly when I am off my feet. It doesn't hurt but is puzzling. Also, sometimes, I feel like I have a very subtle motor turned on inside my body that has a very low vibration/shaky feeling (mainly my legs). No one can see this, only I can feel it. This doesn't happen always, only occasionaly. This motor feeling, when I was lying in bed, has made me feel like I was very gently rocking. Is this motor/buzzing/ feeling indicative of MS or is it anything anyone with fibro has ever mentioned? I am just curious. Any help would be appreciated.
Doctor's Answer
by CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS, Jul 20, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Becky:
MS is defined as multiple episodes of loss of function (either or both motor and sensory). There is a recovery between episodes. (that is how the name multiple arose in MS). In many people 35-45% have optic neuritis as the first symptom. Since the lesions are usually small to begin with, to have whole body changes as the intial symptom would be unusual, but not unheard of. Wide spread muscle twitching or fasciculations without muscle strength changes is not usually a polyneuropathy or ALS. Many times, a post-viral syndrome can give symptoms of fasciculations, numbness, muscle fatigue and soreness, etc. One can see numbness, fatigue in fibromyalgia but we usually do not see fasciculations. The buzzy feeling on the bottom of your feet is alittle difficult to tell you what it might be. Sometimes loss of sensation is described as numbness that can be felt as a buzzy feeling.
The bottom line, is that I do not think you have MS. Without examining you I can not rule it out, but I think it is unlikely. Assuming that your B12 levels is normal and all the other labs such as sedimentation rate are normal, I am in alittle of a loss on what to tell you. Sometimes, a tincture of time is needed to let the symptoms mature to the point where we can put a label on the group of symptoms that a patient expresses. I think this is where you are at the moment.
I am sorry that I am not much help.
Sincerely,
CCF Neuro MD
MS is defined as multiple episodes of loss of function (either or both motor and sensory). There is a recovery between episodes. (that is how the name multiple arose in MS). In many people 35-45% have optic neuritis as the first symptom. Since the lesions are usually small to begin with, to have whole body changes as the intial symptom would be unusual, but not unheard of. Wide spread muscle twitching or fasciculations without muscle strength changes is not usually a polyneuropathy or ALS. Many times, a post-viral syndrome can give symptoms of fasciculations, numbness, muscle fatigue and soreness, etc. One can see numbness, fatigue in fibromyalgia but we usually do not see fasciculations. The buzzy feeling on the bottom of your feet is alittle difficult to tell you what it might be. Sometimes loss of sensation is described as numbness that can be felt as a buzzy feeling.
The bottom line, is that I do not think you have MS. Without examining you I can not rule it out, but I think it is unlikely. Assuming that your B12 levels is normal and all the other labs such as sedimentation rate are normal, I am in alittle of a loss on what to tell you. Sometimes, a tincture of time is needed to let the symptoms mature to the point where we can put a label on the group of symptoms that a patient expresses. I think this is where you are at the moment.
I am sorry that I am not much help.
Sincerely,
CCF Neuro MD
I've had all the above you mentioned. The tingle the muscle twitch the buzzing in legs. I had all testing and NO MS. apparently MS would not cause twitching, it can cause muscle cramping though. Also not that many parts of the body would be effected. I guess from what I have read on here and other places MS starts on one side? Or visual trouble. Optic neuritis and you dont have that or you would not be able to see. I to get the fuzzy vision. I have a diagonosis of stress/anxiety. I am on an antidepressant that does help the symptoms but I feel in my heart I have some imbalance in my body that can not be detected yet, maybe it will work itself out, maybwe not, but my opinion is an auto-immune process that might be causing inflamation in my body, my vision has been on and off fuzzy one day good one day bad so I feel maybe there is an inflamation in the eye itself.. I get floaters to~ who knows but seems like there are many of us on here I hope we all find answers and I hope the Dr has some for you on here. Good luck and keep us posted.
You mentioned that many of the same symptoms are a result of post viral syndrome. How long can that last? From your experience, have you seen patients with pvs that last their symptoms will last months or years? Just curious.
Usually a postviral syndrome is months in duration, but some ascribe even years to them. Alot depends on the patient and probably the virus.
CCF Neuro MD
I had a virus approx 9 weeks ago and since then have had all of the symptoms you have described and more (lower back and neck burning pain, stiffness when sitting for too long, pins and needles in head, little finger going to sleep), mostly left sided however the buzzing feet thing sounds very familiar. I was wondering have you had any funny black spots in your vision "floaters" I think they call them? or any problem with low blood pressure? I am plagued by low blood pressure however nothing is being done about that either!! I have had an mRI brain only and it was o.k. except for "small right side lesion" which no-one was too worried about so I guess it was nothing. I wonder if MS ever appears as lesions on spine first??
In reply to response from "me too" I saw a neurologist for ten minutes, he asked a few questions then diagnosed "severe anxiety disorder/depression" i don't buy it, considering I have been seeing a psychiatrist for several months for adult add (I think he'd have a fair idea if i had any of these problems!!!)this was first diagnosis due to short term memory problems however now I have a different set of problems (number sequencing etc).
anyway good luck with everything, i'm flying to another state to try for some help with this...
Gina
P.S. I will let those interested know what the diagnosis is, but it might be a while!
Let us know which state you are going to for med visit.
Is it a large center to treat neurological disorders?
Weren't you the poster who got such a clean bill of
health from the Cleavland Clinic?
Let us know how you are doing.
Good luck
Carol
I dont think I have MS and neither did my Neuro. I try to reassure myself by doing the heal walk and the toe walk so i know im not weak. I found a great web site that told many different tests the neuro's do to detect damage... one is standing with eyes closed, feet together and arms held out.. do you fall down? If you wabble alittle but are steady, this is good. If you take a fork and rub on sole of foot, does big toe point upward or down? Down is good, up can mean something. Pinprick test, can you feel the tip of a needle all over your body? If so this is good. Can you hop on one foot, can you get up out of a chair without falling? My guess (and this is just my opinion) but with MS you know something is really wrong, although some can have extremely mild cases, I think one woudl know they are just not 100%. I dont feel 100% with the skin numbness and odd sensations, but I still can function 100% this makes me feel somewhat better. But its all the worrying that may cause mor