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continuing burning sensation--at wits end with pain
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continuing burning sensation--at wits end with pain

by patches748, Mar 17, 2002 12:00AM
I am female and 53. On 2/12/02 I suffered intense burning, some numbness & weakness on left side from scalp to foot.  exams since then shows weakness on left side. Had MRI 2 weeks after that and did show possible two mini-strokes in past. Current Dr. said no big deal.

   3/8/ I woke to tremors in head and neck, nausea, migrating severe sharp pains and burning patches, mostly in left side but some in right.  Went to VA and they counseled me about psych meds but saw no doctor.  

   on 3/9 went back with weakness in left arm and burning patches in body. After all day there (included CT scan) and was told I was OK and go home.  Was called by my counselor who told me they felt I had a TIA, but again with VA no follow up.

   since episode on 2/12 I have sharp burning sensation, mostly on left side, but also some patches on right.  it flucuates in intensity becoming more frequent and happens every day now.

  The VA is still trying to blame everything on FMS and psychiatric problems saying it is somatic but many of the problems i believe are not somatic as recent MRI, eye exam(atrophy both optic nerves & cataracts, etc.) show there are continuing problems.



1)  what can cause the burning sensation in body along nerve paths?

2)  why do these sensations migrates to different parts of the body or flucuates?

3)  could this be just residue of stroke-like symptoms on 2/12?

4)  what could flare up the nerves in the body like this (don't have diabetis, nor drink, or do drugs)?  

5)  could episode on 2/12 started some kind of flare up in the nerves?



thank you very much.

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-JT, Mar 17, 2002 12:00AM
SOrry to hear about your symptoms. There is a condition of post stroke burning pain associated with a stroke in the part of the brain called the thalamus. The stroke itself consists of one side of the body becoming numb. Later on, symptoms of burning pain occur in th region of numbness. However, migrating burning sensations are less easily localizable to any one part of the nervous system and do not fit with any particular stroke syndrome. I recall our previous communications and your problems with B12 deficiency which this could also be possibly related to.  Also, they could just be a painful peripheral neuropathy due to a multitude of diseases such as diabetes which can be evaluated with EMG. As for treatment, there is no known cure but you could try neurontin, elavil, or tegretol. Good luck.
Member Comments (24)

by pikamom, Mar 17, 2002 12:00AM
Neurontin is a good drug for nerve pain as well as a psychiatric drug. They use it for a lot of things and I take 800 mg 4X a day, from my psychiatrist for depression, but my urologist wanted to give it to me for my interstitial cystitis and it also helps the back pain I have that's referred to my feet because of nerve damage following surgery at L5 S1. I've been wanting to ask a question here about that but the forum is always full when I check. I've seen you ask questions in the cardiology forum too. It very well could be your vitamin B-12 is causing your problems. Do you take shots for it? I would really look into that, are cataracts a part of that? A friend of mine was just having problems that looked like a brain tumor or MS but it just turned out she needed B-12 shots and she was told if she didn't keep her levels up it could affect her heart.

by JXL, Mar 18, 2002 12:00AM
Give it a rest Patches. You seem to post far too often.Perhaps your symptoms are due to a mental disorder. With all of your symptoms, im sure the docs would have found a cause by now. You seem obsessed with your current condition. Try to relax and for gods sake stay off the internet. I would be willing to bet if you stayed off the internet and stopped thinking you so sick your symptoms may just go away. Dont be mad at this reply, just try to remember there are LOTS of other people who would like to post questions also.

by Concerned lady, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
Dear Patches,



Stay on the internet. Don't worry about the previous comment. I don't believe that your symptoms are psychosomatic at all. You have plenty of evidence of physical problems, from chemical toxicities, to Vitamin B 12 deficiency, and others.



What does your brother think of "Chelation Therapy" 9oral, rather than intravenous), as a possible help for your situation?



Good luck to you and to everyone!



Sincerely, Concerned lady



http://cantbreathesuspectvcd.com

by zoltanvarga, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
To: patches
I agree with concerned lady don't listen to jxl he obviously has never suffered from any of our worrying symptoms. People like him make me so mad!!If posting on this forum helps then you go girl!! Warmest regards Anne By the way jxl if pathces' postinga annoy you so much stay away from them she's hurting no one & setting her own mind at ease so lay off!!!

by patches748, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
sorry you feel that way, JXL.  I am not overly concerned about your commments.....we all have to deal with something, even the ignorance of others.  Perhaps you should try to post early mornings so you can get on.  You just have to be persistent and keep trying.

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Concerned lady, thanks very, very much.  I try to remember that everyone comes from a different place and sometimes they cannot withhold nasty or angry remarks.  It is easy if we don't feel good but that does not excuse rudeness.



I know for a fact that my symptoms are not psychosomatic for the simple reason that eventually the problems show up on some test.  We are not all gifted (tongue in cheek) with bizarre symptoms.  



My brother does not think that I am healthy at the moment for Chelation therapy and is trying to get my body up to handling it but thanks for the thought.

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thanks,  zoltanvarga,



we all have things we have to deal with and we all seek answers.  I have often found those who have not accepted their disability to have anger or bitterness issues.  We have to stay within our limitations but that does not mean we cannot express ourselves or be concerned about new issues that may be popping up for all of us.  I have found that if I get on early in the morning and keep trying that I can post which means anyone else can if they are patient enough. It serves no purpose to attack or alienate others if we are having difficulty in dealing with our own issues.  Thanks, Ann, ever so much.

by JXL, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
Sorry to offend you Patches, but i bet a WHOLE lot of people read my post and agreed you post far to often.It seems to me (maybe im wrong) that this site is more geared towards people who have already been dx and are seeking advice reguarding thier condition.In other words....you are not DX and the docs here certainly cannot dx you on the internet so why bother posting. The questions you are asking should be answered by your pcp.

by patches748, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
To: JXL
I have been diagnosed in past so that statment is mote.  I am sorry that you feel the way that you do but doubt that 'a lot of others' would agree with you, more like agree with me.  This site is not people looking for diagnosis but those who would like answers to medical problems they are dealing with.  I am sorry that you feel the way you do, but to be honest, I am not affected by your attitude.  I would like to think that you are just frustrated as I am about finding some answers and that you have chosen to put me down because of that frustation.  This is not the place to do that as this clinic forum is for those seek answers and not to be attacked by someone else.  Thanks but I am not offended, just appauled that on a wonderful site like this people are subjected to nasty statments or attitudes.

by JXL, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
9 posts already this year. No i cant change my opinion on this one. Thats 9 posts on a site thats very difficult to post on. So i bet you've probaly tried 900 times.IMO you have mis-used this forum. Sorry, but thats my opinion. Im not gonna argue w/ you and "overconcerned lady" anymore. Dont waste a reply because i wont be back to see it. I gonna go live my life and be happy that im healthy, perhaps you should do the same...bye.

by delemosgal, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
If I am active and walking my feet do not bother me too much, but if I am sitting still or lying in bed I get tingling and my toes cramp all the time.  I was told I had something called poly-neuropathy.  The doctor gave me some kind of anti-depressant and said its not that I am depressed but it also works on the nerves in the body.  It has not helped and I am tired of my feet feeling this way. Has anyone had this problem?

by nurse12hr, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
To: JXL and patches
Hi

JXL, I know basically what you are trying to say, but I think you put it rather strongly and rudely.  Patches is looking for help.  Sometimes just talking to a community of people (even internet people!) is therapuetic.  



Patches, I am sorry you are having symptoms that are frightening to you.  The trouble is, you can't rely totally on MRI and CT scans to pinpoint these symptoms.  Did you know that if you gave 100 "normal" people an MRI, "abnormalities" will show up on about 80%?  I spent a lot of time agonizing about something that showed up on mine, until a neurologist I happened to meet socially told me that.  His advice?  Anything life threatening GENERALLY has clear, convincing, and consistent evidence on MRI or CT.  He said not to worry about most anything else unless of course, you are becoming more and more ill.  Most vague and "odd" symptoms will eventually resolve (as mine did) if you don't focus on it.

If your weird symptoms are medical in origin, eventually there WILL be clear and strong medical evidence.  Until then, there is not much you can do anyway, but eat healthily, don't drink or smoke, and enjoy your work and play.  We are all only here for a brief time.



I hope you can try to resolve whether the B12 issue is contributing at all.  It certainly could be.  



Wishing you well,

christie

by Concerned lady, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
JXL, you called me "OVERconcerned lady"! You are probably right.

Actually, that's a pretty nifty "handle" for me! I am VERY concerned with:



1) our SICK medical system that treats SYMPTOMS instead of looking for, finding, and treating the CAUSES of the symptoms,



2) our SICK insurance system that is mostly out for their own PROFITS, at the expense of their customers' health & lives,



3) our SICK governmental "protective" (who are they really protecting?!) agencies like the FDA (Food & Drug Administration), that is in BED with drug companies and dangerous chemical companies, and the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) that has had its own SICK BUILDINGS harming THEIR OWN EPA EMPLOYEES!



4) the SICK collusion between the FDA & drug companies, hiding behind the ridiculous "SMOKESCREEN" of "risk/benefit ratio" justifica