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Do I need a 2nd opinion?
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Do I need a 2nd opinion?

by Vicky_1952_1952, Dec 17, 2002 12:00AM
I've had repeated bouts of SUDDEN onset headache and vomiting. 1-2x wkly since Sept-02  Severe enough to be hosp 3x(dehydration)  PCP sent me to Gastro speciaist had endoscopy...all normal..PCP sent me to  Neurologist..had MRI, MRA, EEG Blood/urine ..all normal cept elevated liver enz. Other symptoms are ear fullness, hearing loss, balance difficulties. Neuro DX polyneurophathy from initail exam. Neuro did not personnally view MRI just read report(I asked) and his nurse called with "normal" results. 1.  Do I need 2nd opionion or just wait this out?  2.Does MRI always show tumors or Multiple Sclerosis?

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-JT, Dec 20, 2002 12:00AM
1.A second opinion at a major academic center may be helpful, and should be considered as your symptoms appear to be quite dramatic, requiring 3 hospital admissions.

2.10% patients with MS have an initial normal MRI. But tumors are usually picked up on an MRI.



Inner ear/vestibular problems are certainly a possibility given your symptoms of hearing loss, ear fullness, and balance problems. This can be evaluated with a formal ENT exam and in a dizzy clinic such as the one we have here run by Dr.Oas. Atypical migraine is also a possiblity. The polyneuropathy in itself does not explain your symptoms. But there is a condition called acute intermittent porphyria which can manifest as GI, neurologic, and psychiatric symptoms.  It's a genetic defect affecting the liver's ability to make a component of blood, causing a buildup of certain chemicals in the body that somehow affects those systems I mentioned. You can get a polyneuropathy, abdominal pain with vomiting, and psychiatric changes as well as other symptoms. There's also a change in urine color. An attack can be triggered by certain medications such as estrogen, barbituates, and even alcohol. This can be diagnosed with blood and urine studies and treatment is usually supportive or in some cases with hematin and glucose.  Talk to your docs about this possibility as they have had the opportunity to examine you and review your clinical history in detail. Good luck.
Member Comments (7)

by Vicky_1952_1952, Dec 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: PS to doctor
I forgot to include some intermittant tremors of the lower right arm and right leg.

by Vicky_1952_1952, Dec 18, 2002 12:00AM
To: DOCTOR
Mistake above - I dont have the results from the EEG yet.  I have another appointment on Jan 16 for an EMG (I think to obtain specifics on the nerve damage)  I want to emphasize that the Headaches and Vomiting are simultaneaous.   I realize one moment that I am naseated and the next moment I realize that I have a headache.  I tend to vomit for 1-2 days often while taking phenergan suppositories. My pcp tried 4 medications (since September) for migraines which I have had in the past.  The medications are Imitrex, sepapep, migrazone, amerge.  These headaches are not like migraines, not as painful, no sensitivity to light or noise, not on one side, more on the crown of my head.

by Vicky_1952_1952, Dec 18, 2002 12:00AM
To: DOCTOR
I didnt have enough space to explain my balance dificulties.  I am unable to walk heel to toe even two steps.  I am unable to stand on one foot with the other slightly lifted without falling over (either leg)  With eyes open it takes about 5-10 seconds.  With eyes closed it happens instantly.  Even with both feet solid when eyes are closed I fall over in 10-20 seconds.



IS THIS MORE LIKELY A MIDDLE EAR PROBLEM or NERVE PROBLEM IN MY FEET?

by JessicaM, Jan 07, 2003 12:00AM
Do yourself a favor and get a second opinion, and if you are still unsatisfied, get a third opinion.  To make a long story short, I took my Mother to the Dr's office with clear signs of pneumonia,(chest pain, non-stop coughing, chills, severly dehydrated, low blood pressure and vomiting in front of the Doctor while being examined), and he sent her home with oral antibiotics and cough syrup and said she had a bronchial infection.  I left thinking, "oh, it's just a bronchial infection, thank god it's not pneumonia.'  Less than 24 hours later, she died...of pneumonia.  If you are uncomfortable with the diagnosis, be more assertive...and if your tests are still negative, at least you will have 'peace of mind'.  Good luck to you...

by Ron3, Jan 16, 2003 12:00AM
Hi Vicky,



You are making a better diagnosis than your doctor..

Inner ear infections or a condition called Benign Positional Vertigo can confuse the messages going to the brain.

When the messages from the eye do not agree with those being

received from the ear's balance system, nausea, vomiting and

falling over when the eyes are closed is often a result.



Since the tiny chamber where balance is controlled is supposed to have fluid in it (and it is tiny particles within this fluid

that cause the problem) they are often missed even with an MRI.

You might have to see and Ear Nose and Throat (ENT)specialist who

will make a diagnosis and try some head manipulation to

clear the debris from the balance fluid.



One sure sign of BPV is dizzyness wen lying down and simply rolling over in bed with the lights out.



Here is a report to read which will prove that I am not making anything up.



Take care.. Ron

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DIZZINESS WHEN CHANGING POSITION



                         Report #7072; 3/15/97



Some people feel dizzy and nauseous when they change positions. Exciting new research shows that many will have a condition called benign positional vertigo that can be cured by

surgery or special exercises.



If you feel dizzy or nausea when you change position, move from lying to sitting, turn when asleep or bending over, check with your doctor who will probably order tests for nerve damage: an MRI to look for a tumor, HbA1C for diabetes, Vitamin B12 for pernicious anemia, Lyme