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Complicated migraines
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Complicated migraines

by Traciedar, Feb 15, 2003 12:00AM
My neuroligist has diagnosed me with complicated migraines and I have been hospitilized several times and had many test.  I take Topomax to help prevent them, but it doesn't seem to help.  I don't trust my doctor's,and my attacks are getting worse.  If anyone else know about them, they are hemiplegic migraines, causing one side of your body to go numb, and now, I am having several a day and they are slowing down my breathing and I am unconscious for up to five minutes afterwards.  My neurologist does nothing but increase my Topomax after every episode.  Does anyone else have these type of migraines and what does your doctor do for you?

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-JT, Feb 18, 2003 12:00AM
Not sure if you are using the right terms as hemiplegic means WEAKNESS not numbness on one side of the body. At any rate, your symptoms sound a bit concerning, especially if you are truly losing consciousness and everything is happening more frequently. It would be extremely important to make sure these are not seizures or TIA's with EEG (need to capture one of these episodes) and MRI/MRA. If they are indeed just complicated migraines, then Topomax certainly does not sound like it's cutting it for you. You may need to have abortive treatment (again assuming this is truly complicated migraine) with an IV medication such as magnesium, depakote, or steroids.  Prophylactic therapy with calcium channel blockers rather than topomax may be more helpful. If you don't trust your doctors, then get a second opinion. If you are becoming unconscious several times a day, then consider going to the ER for a more urgent evaluation. As for now, until this is taken care of, you should not be driving or operating heavy machinery for your own safety and that of others. Good luck.
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by Cgalgirl, Feb 17, 2003 12:00AM
To: Traciedar
I have had only several episodes of the same thing: dizzziness, left side numbness/paralysis, lasting for up to 2 days and got the same dx.  I have had problems breathing too, and strange palpitations, strange squiggles in front of my eyes, but no headaches.  Was very confused especially when no headaches why it was called migraines, but have discovered a new term - Transient Migrainous Accompaniment. Nothing showed on MRI, MRA, CT, blood tests etc).  The episodes went away on their own for me, but were brought on by stress and having 2 babies.  I also have MVP Syndrome, which exacerbates all this (my nervous system is very sensitive to stressors of any kind).  I am sorry that you are having so many attacks - my Dr put me on Inderal (40 mg a day) and baby aspirin, because of strokelike presentation of symptoms.  I couldn't stand the inderal (made me too tired).  Have you tried any of the Beta Blockers they are good for preventing this type of stuff.  You have to stay away from the traditional migraine medics because of the stroke like symptoms - apparently they constrict your blood vessels and that with the complicated migraines could cause a stroke.  Sorry I haven't been much help - consider a second opinion.  I have to say I had a very good workup, but as soon as they realized it wasn't a stroke, the Drs at our center were not very interested in my case.   Good luck and let me know how you get on.

by Tamsha, Feb 18, 2003 12:00AM
I have suffered from migraines since I was 14.  I am now 38 (female) and was diagnosed with complicated migraines last year.  My migraine pattern changed when I was about 34 or so.  I was getting all the symptoms of a migraine (aura, etc.) but no headache.  They gradually became worse where I would go for 2 or 3 days with transient numbness, stroke-like symptoms, feet that felt like cement, couldn't talk properly, etc.  I went to emergency numerous times where they always diagnosed migraine.  I finally saw a neurologist who ran every test under the sun at my insistance because I was scared s--tless.  All came back normal.  I finally then believed the complicated migraine diagnosis.  I am not on any medication ie. Inderol at the moment - if my symptoms returned in an extremen way he then said he would.  He did prescribe high daily doses of magnesium and B6 (riboflaven).  So far it is working well but I still have the occasional odd symptom (nothing unmanagable).  I would ask your doctor about going on these vitamins to see if it works.  Good luck!

by Tamsha, Feb 18, 2003 12:00AM
Sorry, also forgot to mention that as like Ccalgirl, I am also taking a baby aspirin a day.  She is also correct - neuro told me too that if symptoms become worse, he would put me on a beta blocker NOT Inderol or anything similar due to the nature of these attacks. If I was you, I would look for another doctor.



by Cgalgirl, Feb 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Tamsha
Thanks for the advice re: Inderal.  I stopped taking it. Do you know why its not good for Complicated Migraine?

by Tamsha, Feb 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: Cgalgirl
I'm not really sure.  I didn't ask.  My neuro, who is very good, just said that my best bet would be the magnesium and B6. If that didn't help, he would put me on a beta blocker.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the type of migraine.

by Pat123, Feb 21, 2003 12:00AM
My migraines started at around 12 or 13 years of age (I'm now 48).  I pretty much tried to deal with them on my own even though they kept getting worse, until about 7 years ago when I started having dizzy spells and passing out.  My MRI was slightly abnormal, but the neurologist didn't think that that had anything to do with my problem.  It was my EEG that helped him with designing my treatment more than anything else (my regular EEG was inconclusive--it was the 24-hour EEG that was the most telling).

Talk to your neurologist about changing your preventative medication.  Topomax doesn't seem to be doing anything for you.  However, although I've been on Depakote for several years now, it did take a long time adjusting the dosages until we got to an effective level, and even then it took a long time for me to notice that my migraines were less severe.  I stopped passing out reasonably soon after the Depakote dosage got right, and the dizziness disappeared about a year and a half later.  Although milder, my headaches can still last a week or more.  I don't know how conscientious you are about taking your medications on time, but I definitely noticed that I needed to take mine at the same time every day to keep my blood levels even.  Don't miss a dose.

You didn't mention any abortive treatments.  Most of them only worked for a month or two at most.  I went through the gamut and still haven't found anything that works totally and reliably, but Maxalt seems to be the most effective of the triptans for me (not everyone reacts the same to every medication).  

In addition to increasing your magnesium, try adding Vitamins B-2 and B-12.  Strangely enough, I also found that although everyone tells you to get off of caffine (and if you haven't, you should--it does make a difference), I found that one of two things would frequently help: either a large amount (1/2 gal.) of orange juice or a 2-ltr bottle of cola (I always drink diet, I don't know if this makes a difference).  I don't know why, but if one doesn't help the other frequently does.  I usually start with the oj, because it's the healther of the two.  The cola does make sense, though, because caffine somehow speeds up the absorption rate of certain medications (ergo the otc migraine relief medications).  The baby aspirin (or Feverfew if you can't take aspirin) probably isn't a bad idea, but do make sure you avoid ginko.  You might also want to try yoga exercises to get your circulation moving and elongate your spine (don't try to push yourself to do anything that's uncomfortable--and don't do anything that makes the blood rush to your head).  And last, but not least, if you suspect that your headaches might be related to a hormonal imbalance (you didn't mention your age), and if you don't have any family history of breast cancer, you can try supplementing your diet with natural estrogens (like soy).  This might take a while for you to notice any effect).

In any event, you should definitely get a second opinion.  If your unconscious episodes are anything like mine were, they are extremely dangerous (I not only had to stop driving because they would come on with very little notice, but I was afraid to go anywhere by myself--it was terrifying).  Your numbness brings this all much too close to stroke symptoms.

by t_anunson, Mar 06, 2003 12:00AM
Hi everyone. I started having neurological problems and headaches after my daughter was born 6 1/2 mos. ago tingling, numbness, twitching, etc.. I still get it here and there. My neurologist claims he couldn`t find anything, I`m still searching though. My blood pressure also shot up to 154/100 the other night. I`m only 5`4 146pds, 22 yrs old. Could this be complicated migraines. Any other post partum women have these problems?

by drb, Mar 14, 2003 12:00AM
How about: mid-morning @ work: sudden frontal headache