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a question about MS
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a question about MS

by CHADDY, Jun 19, 2003 12:00AM
My mom has been having some strange symptoms.  About a year ago she would tell me a lot that her hands were going to sleep, but she thought it was carpul tunnel.  But they would fall asleep at various times throughout the day.  Then a couple of months ago her teeth started hurting so she went to the dentist and told him that her face was numb also, he told her to go to her dr.  Since that time her face gets numb on the right side on her jaw, nose, under her eye, sometimes on her forehead and also the numbness will extend around to the back of her head.  She can feel something touching the outside of her face, but said inside that it feels like 'rubber', as when the dentist will give a shot of novacaine.  Her right leg is tingling sometimes and I believe she mentioned her foot too tingling and going to sleep at times.

Some of this started when she under tremendous stress and some depression about 2 months ago.  However, the facial numbness and hand numbness were already present before that time i believe.  She has been getting her words messed up when she talks sometimes.  It's not like cases I've seen when someone has a stroke though, meaning her speech hasn't slowed down and it's not slurred.  And at times she has to sit down because she feels like she about to hit the floor if she doesn't.

Does this sound indicative of anything to you?  In her family she has a history of parkinson's(father), Epilepsy & ALS(brother), cancer of uterus, ovaries, and another kind that infected the paracardium in her mom.

What would be the first thing you would look for?

Thank you,

Chad

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-JT, Jun 23, 2003 12:00AM
Doesn't sound like ALS or Parkinson's. Seizures and complex migraines (even without a headache) are a consideration if her focal neurological deficits (numbness of the her face/arm/leg) occur in episodes.  There are certain neurological diseases that occur in association with cancers such as ovarian cancer, but her symptoms do not sound typical of them. A formal neurological examination may be helpful and could help point her physician into the right diagnostic direction such as an MRI or EMG depending on what is found.  Finally, stress can sometimes manifest as neurological symptoms or make neurological diseases worse. Good luck.
Member Comments (12)

by CHADDY, Jun 19, 2003 12:00AM
I guess I should've added, does it sound like possible MS?

thanks,

chad

by Mysterious Stranger, Jun 20, 2003 12:00AM
Just curious, since many of the complaints are bilateral and apparently systemic:    Has she consumed aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet), and if so, for how long? How many aspartame-containing diet sodas or other diet or sugar-free products does she typically consume in an average week?

by CHADDY, Jun 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: update and new question
My mom went and had an MRI today.  The neurologist told her that she either had an infection, OR if it wasn't that then it was definitely MS.

I have some questions:



1.  she has to have a lumbar puncture and blood work.  What are they looking for in particular?



2.  If it is an infection, how long will it take to get rid of it and what kind of damage can it do?



3.  Is MS controlable?



4.  If it is MS will it continue to spread and is it degenerative?



5.  Can people live a normal life with MS or does it cut their life short?



Thank you...I know this is long, but I am scared for my mom.

chad



by wishingyouwell, Jun 21, 2003 12:00AM
chaddy,here is two web sights you can go to that will help you understand multiple sclerosis a little better . www.nmss.org ..... www.webmd.com when you go to the webmd sight you need to type in ms and it will take you to the page for ms.i wished i knew more about the disease so i could be of more help, but this should get you started !!! i will pray for your mother and you ,keep your faith strong in god !!! wishing you well ,god bless .

by CHADDY, Jun 22, 2003 12:00AM
To: mysterious stranger
My mom consumes almost zero products with aspartame because she hates the taste of it.  Thanks for the concern though.  best wishes. chad

by CHADDY, Jun 24, 2003 12:00AM
To: CCF NEURO
My mom went and had an MRI the other day. The neurologist told her that she either had an infection, OR if it wasn't that then it was definitely MS.

I have some questions:



1. she had a lumbar puncture and blood work. What are they looking for in particular?



2. If it is an infection, how long will it take to get rid of it and what kind of damage can it do?



3. Is MS controlable?



4. If it is MS will it continue to spread and is it degenerative?



5. Can people live a normal life with MS or does it cut their life short?



Thank you...I know this is long, but I am scared for my mom.

chad

by o2birish, Jun 25, 2003 12:00AM
Chaddy, I have MS.  I am 27 and pregnant.  It is VERY possible to lead a very very normal life with an MS diagnosis.  I had started Copaxone injections upon my diagnosis last June, and went off of them in December as I was trying to conceive.  The injections themselves to not hurt as the needle is very small.  (I have never tried any of the other disease modifying drugs)  The Copaxone stings a little as it is absorbed into the fatty tissue just under your skin, but I am told that it stings less if you have some extra weight on you.



The lumbar puncture is the only way to truly and correctly diagnose MS.  From my understanding, they take fluid and fill three vials.  They run three different tests and if two of three come back positive, then it is MS.  There are different types of MS.  It is really really scary when the doctors start talking about it.  I did all my research on line and educated myself about all of my treatment choices prior to choosing Copaxone.  I found a chat area that was very beneficial and they are very good about answering questions or just being there to support you.  The url is http://neuro-mancer.mgh.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi



Please take the time to learn about MS with your mom.  Lumbar punctures hurt.  A lot.  The doctors told me that it did not.  Apparently only 5% of people experience pain with them and they are almost always overweight.  I weighed 125 and am 5'3" and I am telling you that it was the absolute most painful experience of my life.  I am not trying to scare you.  I just wish I had been prepared for it.  The MS society also has a great site and you can sign up to recieve the monthly magazine for free.  



I'll check back on here to see how you are doing.  Keep us posted of your Mom's progress.



Shannon

by CHADDY, Jun 25, 2003 12:00AM
To: 02birish
thank you for the response!  My mom had the lumbar puncture yesterday and said that it didn't hurt, just a little stiff in the back today, but getting around well.  She did complain that the site of the IV was hurting but I found out that they were giving her a light dose of demerol, then the aching pain made sense 8-)

She still is having right sided numbness in her face and dizziness when she stands sometimes.  This comes and goes.  She did have 2 places on the MRI of white matter that showed up and that's what prompted the MS testing.  She also went and had about 6-7 vials of blood drawn the other day.  We don't know what to expect right now.  Just waiting to hear.

She asked her neurologist if MS can cause depression and he said yes, it can.  She has been going through depression and mood swings for several months now.  I am hoping that this is related and it will diminish with treatment, if it is MS.

Do you still have flare ups?  What kind of MS do you have?  Can you give me a specific site for the site to order the magazine about MS?  The other for the harvard link will not permit someone with AOL to access it, don't know why either.  

I have been around neurology stuff for several years now.  I was diagnosed at 25 or so with complex partial epilepsy and the uphill battle to control it completely.  So I've been hitting the internet and others with it to see what to do and soak up what I can about it.  For my mother it has not come back positive/negative yet, but I decided to get a jump on it and be ready in case it is so that I can help in whatever way possible.  

Thank you very much for whatever ideas, info or help you can give.  Thank you for taking your time to respond to this...I appreciate it!  chaddy

by o2birish, Jun 27, 2003 12:00AM
Hi Chaddy!  Sorry it took me so long to respond.  I've been out of the office for a couple of days and I normally don't go online while at home.  I have relapsing remitting MS and my