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Worried I have ALS or Lyme!
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Worried I have ALS or Lyme!

by greg 38, Jun 05, 2006 12:00AM
Im a 38yr old male. My problems started in the spring of 2005. I experienced floaters, pain in the right knuckle of my pinkie finger and numbness in some fingers of both hands while lying down.

  In late August, I had blurred vision lasting one day. I went to an Opthamologist and my family physician ordered a stress test, MRI of brain, Carotid test and Sono of heart.  All came back OK.

  In Oct, I experienced back pain for no reason in the thorasic area. My doctor sent me to a physical thyrapist for my upper back problem. After a couple of sessions with a PT I started experiencing lower back pain and tightness in hamstrings and calves of both legs when standing. The pain was felt in either leg but never both at same time. I also started having muscle twitches in both legs while sitting. I was sent for MRIs of Thorasic and Lumbar. There was no evidence of pinched nerve. The Neurologist contributes my problems to peripheral nerves. I have an appointment for an EMG next week.

For the last month and a half, the pain in my upper legs has now moved to my feet. I have experienced buzzing in my heels, problems with plantar fascia and achilles. I have left heel pain when I wake up and start walking but after about an hour the pain goes away. The pain I have been experiencing since Jan comes and goes throughout the day.

  Other symptoms that have experienced are fatigue, night sweats, ringing in my ear, pressure in my ear when weight trainng, nausea, the floaters have increased, filmy vision, heat sensation and itchiness in both legs (from feet to shin) and headaches.

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-PW, Jun 11, 2006 12:00AM
I cannot give you a formal medical opinion over the internet unfortunately as this site is purely educational



A normal neurological examination and MRI goes a long way to exclude serious neurological disease, and I would be encouraged by this. ALS is a rare disorder, and a diagnosis can be made if there is signs of upper and lower motor neuron disease in more than 1-2 limbs by the clinical examination and EMG. Signs include objective muscle weakness or wasting with evidence of increased reflexes. It does not afect eyesight. Muscle twitching in the absence of muscle weakness or wasting is unlikely to be ALS.



Good luck
Member Comments (20)

by johnflox, Jun 05, 2006 12:00AM
To: Greg 38
You have to check first what medicines you took up to 6 or 8 months prior to the onset of your symptoms in 2005. Above all rule out that you did not take any antibiotic like cipro, levaquin or those belonging to that family, drugs for inmunological disorders or other powerful prescription medicines.



You have to be sure that you are not having a "delayed" reaction to such drugs, before looking for lyme or als.



All the symptoms that you mention fit a 100% in a reaction to an antimalarial, or a fluoroquinolone antibiotic, but also match perfectly with quite a few other syndromes.

by patsy10, Jun 05, 2006 12:00AM
All these symptoms fit lyme disease as well.  I have most of them too. Lyme is difficult to diagnose.  If you get tested and it  comes back negative.  It doesn't mean you don't have lyme.  It's a clinical diagnosis.  There's a lot of info at lymenet.org if you haven't found the site yet.

by joshua217777, Jun 05, 2006 12:00AM
Johnflox, you mentioned something about taking a antibiotic and months later have a reaction to it.  I have taken cipro probably about 8 months ago or so.  Also Ive took prednisone about 3 months ago.  Last 3 months out of nowhere came tinnitus.  Tapping noises, but the worst is any little noise, me talking, dishes hitting, talking on the phone my ears cant take it, makes a paper crumbling noise with each noise.  Can cipro do that after so long from taking it.  ENT recommended cutting stapes muscle for the tapping.  Dont know whats causing the paper crumbling noise and probably cant fix it.  I didnt know about having reactions long after taking something

by johnflox, Jun 06, 2006 12:00AM
To: joshua217777
Yes, cipro and all fluoroquinolone antibiotics in general do cause very disabling side effects up to one and a half years after exposure. The most well known injury for doctors is tendon rupture, that takes place up to one year or more after ingesting the antibiotic.

Other very serious lesions show up as well long after the treatment with fluoroquinolones, one of them is intractable tinnitus.

Taking fluoroquinolones with corticoids increase the risks of suffering some limitating disorders, like those related to tendons.

Hopefully you are not having a reaction to cipro because it is not common to have just a single symptom of toxicity, like tinnitus, although it has been recorded too.

Some people start with several symptoms and tinnitus is the most annoying and disturbing, and the longest lasting.

In special cases, and in all severe cases, fluoroquinolones cause permanent damages. The new texts including in the package inserts of quinolones state that quinolones may cause irreversible neurological damage, and tinnitus is one of the most frequent neurological abnormalities caused by quinolones.

The most reliable source of information about quinolones is provided by a site created by some victims. I do not have any relationship at all with it. It is:

www.fqresearch.org

You may visit it to rule out that you are not suffering a reaction to cipro. Less than 2% of all side effects of cipro are reported as side effects, so the manufacturers want us to believe that is a very safe antibiotic.

by SNORCHY, Jun 06, 2006 12:00AM
Can being on tetracycline long-term cause similar symptoms like twitching, tingling and trembling? Months after being on it for a like 6 weeks I a;sp developed a bitter taste in the back of my mouth which has subsided & the front of my tongue is a bit dulled. I have been having the neurological symptoms stated above for over a month...afraid of MS or something...

Thanks!

by SNORCHY, Jun 06, 2006 12:00AM
To: Patsy
As you seem to know lots about Lyme...what does the rash look like that is associated with Lyme Disease?

Tanks!

by SNORCHY, Jun 06, 2006 12:00AM
To: Patsy
As you seem to know lots about Lyme...what does the rash look like that is associated with Lyme Disease?

Thanks!