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Multi- level thoracic disc herniations
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Multi- level thoracic disc herniations

by loiskerr, Feb 27, 2007 12:00AM
CT Myelogram and MRI results.
-T5 T6 7mm large disc herniation
-T6 T7 5mm disc herniation
-T7 T8 3.5 paracentral spur causing deformity thercal sac
-T8 T9 disc/osteophyte complex on the right parcentral region abutting the cord.
-T9 T10 small right paracentral disc herniation and mild flattening.

Impression:
Multiple regions of disc herniation with calcification from the T5 level down to T10 causing varying degrees of spinal stenosis as well as cord flattening and abutment.

I had an Anterior Discetomy and fusion of C5 and C6. Titanium disc and plate. Recovered well some stiffness.

My Neuro said he would do the thoracic operation but doesn't want too. 15% risk of paralising me. I have not worked in two years and the pain is everyday every minute. My question is does this get worse with time? I have trouble with bladder and bowel frequency and my legs hurt, sometime I can't walk. Can't find much info on this subject so rare. Thanks any advice will help.
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Operation or not? That is the question

by Forum-M.D.-SH, Feb 28, 2007 12:00AM
First of all, keep in mind that I am unable to diagnose you because I am unable to examine you, this forum is for educational purposes.      
    The symptoms and story that you describe are consistent with a compressive myelopathy (spinal cord compression).  Disc herniations do tend to get better over time, but the question arises when there is a possibility of permanent damage to the spinal cord and/or nerve roots.  With prolonged compression, you may develop myelomalacia (atrophy/degeneration of the spinal cord) and the transient symptoms of pain, inability to walk, bowel/bladder dysfunction may become permanent.  A neurophysiologic study called a SSEP (somatosensory evoked potential- median and tibial) may help determine the degree of myelopathy (spinal cord dysfunction) that you have.  If your symptoms are progressive (getting worse) then you will likely need surgery.  If your symptoms are improving then I would suggest the SSEP and repeat imaging, and based on the results of these tests then a decision about surgery can be made.  I hope this has been helpful.
Member Comments (26)

by JCmcc, Feb 27, 2007 12:00AM
To: RE: loi
Dear Friend,
Please be advised that I am not responding to you as a physician and that I am not advising you and that what I write is not meant to be construed as medical advice or a replacement from the forum neurologist, et al.
With that said I would suggest a consideration of two non-surgical approaches:
1. The DRX9000 and you would want to google that for your locale.
2. Atlas Orthogonal Chiropractic. You may want to google that for your own research.

I think that you can get around this without the use of surgery and I highly recommend the DRX.

I hope that this has been and will be helpful.


Good Luck!
JCmcc.

by loiskerr, Feb 28, 2007 12:00AM
To: M.D.
Thank you for the response. I'm having a real hard time with finding info. I will have my neurolgist do the SSEP test. I have had EVPS and EMG which really helped on the neck operation. Thank again Lois

by jej, Mar 08, 2007 12:00AM
To: loiskerr
you have been responding to [spinal stenosis]...i had 3-4 and 6-7 fused with hardware,plates 3-4. your neck stiffness will get better with time...my bladder and legs that left with 6-7 inpinging on spinal cord came back to a certain degree over time...as soon as your thorasic is done i am confident with physical therapy and time that your bladder will inprove...mine did and they said it would not...keep the faith LOIS..ANYTHING we want bad enough is possible..do not beleive in giving up...i did'nt and i am keeping tabs on your progress...when do you go in for your thorasis? are you waiting till spring? are you sure that is wise considering your bladder and bowel? i am not a doctor so maybe this is ok with them...will let you know how it went for me today....keep the faith...jej

by loiskerr, Mar 08, 2007 12:00AM
To: jej
Hey thanks for your thoughts. I can't find much advise on this operation. Very rare. It's real nice to hear someone has been there. As far as waiting I live in Michigan and the snow and ice have been real bad. So the neuro said lets wait alittle for the thoracic. It has only been 5 months since my neck operation. C5 and C6. I do have a great attitude which is why my neurogist thinks I will rock this next one. So today I made an appoinment for Monday to schedule the operation for May.
Do you know anyone who has had a muti level thoracic operation? I need six levels. T5 through T10. This is what scares me. But they won't get me down. No matter what happens I will get through what ever is dished to me. My faith is strong and I'm to mean to die! LOL I will repost as the news comes in. Thanks I needed your thoughts. Lois

by jej, Mar 08, 2007 12:00AM
To: loiskerr
left you a message on my thread[spinal stenosis surgery?]you will be ok ..i have had disc deteration for years at least 17..was a millwright..after surgery and recovery ..played a little golf...hut but oh well.i also have mylopothy[spelling]? you will be fine....my wife is reseaching about your condition...mwe have 3 registered nurses who can help her if she needs it ...will get back to you...thinking and praying for you...WE will not give up...so be positive...jej

by jej, Mar 09, 2007 12:00AM
To: lois
did you see neuro comment on my thread? i am taking it with me to the doctors today..maybe they will get me a neoro-surgeon with this...i pray so...still resarching for you...wife... have a great day today lois....jej

by loiskerr, Mar 09, 2007 12:00AM
To: jej
Yes I read it. It was the firat thing I looked for today. That is great. Where do you live? I have the best neuro in the US and he is in Michigan. Dr. Teck Mun Soo. Let me know what happens. I'm praying. Lois

by jej, Mar 09, 2007 12:00AM
To: lois
look in my thread...left a message for you...my son in law head of nursing at ku university...he knows good surgeons and has alot of pull..we live in missouri....ran out of room on my message ...we are praying for you ..i have my son in law ask surgeons,he knows them well about your condition on tuesday ...he works that day...will find out all i can...my wife says if i fall one more time she is calling ambulance to take me to k.u.shes on a mission to get me help..pray for our soldiers lois ...i don't think alot of them will be the same...praying for you and will get info about your condition...nurses sometimes in hospitals know alot more after doctors do the surgery...thanks for all your support..praying for you...jej

by jej, Mar 10, 2007 12:00AM
To: loiskerr
ps...the reason i startrd going to veterans was because my medications with insurance was costing me $1000. a month..i get them for free at v.a....now i wonder with this problem if this was the right choice..it seemed to be at the time.you cannot predict the future.hope you are having a good day. Lois i was wondering with your losing your bladder if it is wise to wait for you surgery...does your doctor know you are losing you bladder and bowel functions? just worried.praying for you..jej

by loiskerr, Mar 10, 2007 12:00AM
To: Thank you
Yes he know not going to wait long just for the ice to melt. My brother in law got hurt in the navy and has had many like 6 operations and has switched to the VA as well do to high cost. I'm going to call him to get advise or him to go to your thread he was a big shot. Maybe he can help. Praying Lois

by jej, Mar 10, 2007 12:00AM
To: loiskerr