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Heroin, and Hydro users Experie...

Found this disccussion on quitting sub and there are hydro users, oxy and heroin users discussing getting off of sub. I found it very informative.

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Anonymous:

Hi, I have a big problem, I can’t get of Suboxone. Has this happened to anybody else? Is there any way to overcome this problem?

Anonymous:

Hi, it is a serious stuff when you are becoming addictive. I have managed to get off Suboxone.
I have little leg discomfort to remind me of the time when I have been using it. Sometimes, I am irritable and this is mostly at night. The past two nights I haven’t been sleeping too much, but I hope this will improve. After the 3 weeks of having withdrawal I have been given a medicine Neurontin. I wish I had known about it earlier. After tapering for two months I managed to stop taking this therapy. Now, I am free of drugs again.

Anonymous:

I was a heroin addict for several years and kicked cold turkey. After being clean for several years I hurt my back, went to "pain management" and had a doctor giving me handfuls of various opiates on a daily basis. After 2 weeks of full withdrawal, like cold sweats, nausea, runs,

muscle spasms, no sleeping, etc a doctor told me to take the pain pills until I could get onto suboxone because I did not want to go on methadone. Now after 2 years on suboxone its time to really be clean, ya know? So over the last several months I have dropped my dosage done from 32 mg a day to 4 mg a day. Today is day one of 2 mg. I will proabably stay on this for a month or two even though I want to get off the stuff because the more you kick the harder it gets and I would rather take my time and not suffer more than I have to. A note to those who are suffering- like a suboxone. It gives you a little edge off but you can still continue detoxing down. Another point- don't bother taking benzodiazapines (valium, clonopin, xanax, ativan, etc) if you are truly an addict. (And who isn't that takes suboxone?) You think opiate withdrawals are bad, benzos withdrawals can be worse and can be fatal. Good luck to others out there struggling with addiction. Suboxone isn't a miracle drug, but because it prevents (for the most part) abuse of other opiates it can be useful distancing yourself from your addiction with a higher likelihood of success than methadone.

Anonymous:

i was on suboxone for 21 months. even though i tapered from 16 to 2mgs, getting completely off was not fun. the worst of the physical wthdrawel eased up after about three weeks...or 504 hours to be more accurate. sleep was not an available escape at this time...at least not for me! expect extreme weakness, intensified by the need for so much bed-rest for at least the first leg of this deal. some anxiety and insomnia hung on for me and others i talked with for several weeks after the worst physical part is over. the good news is that there are things one can do that help. i had to force myself to get fresh air and excercise when possible, did yoga, meditated and took hot baths whirlpools and saunas.....although not cheap, massage was always the best hour for me....and the only temporary escape that really worked. there is also an ayurvedic treatment known as shiro-dhara that helps a good deal if you can find a practitioner.
it has now been four months since my last dose and i am almost back to relatively good health.

Anonymous:

I was on suboxone for 12 months and did my own tapering 2 mg and then I broke my tablets in four bits and took them as 1 mg tablets. I am slowly starting to feel normal but i have to always be doing something, becauce otherwise I go nuts. I was an Herion for 12 months befor I started suboxone and getting off the herion was much worse I lost a bussiness out of it and nearly my too kids and now I am affraid that it will happen again can you please give me some points on how to get through this.

Anonymous:

Just don't get back to it! Try never to forget the hell you had to go through before you decided to stop and during the withdrawals. Speaking from a personal experience- 10 years of heroine abuse. I didn't want to get hooked up on methadone or suboxene, so i rapid-detoxed myself, so to speak. I bought 460mg of liquid methadone and starting with 60, i lowered my dose almost each day for the next 10 days. When i had 50mg left i stopped it completely. I saved the 50mg in case i felt superbad, which actually didn't happen. I had 10 days of insomnia and RLS, some mild diarrhea but that was it. On day 11 i slept for the first time for 8 hours and it's been 2 years since. i still have those 50mg of methadone left:))
I also lost almost everything i had or loved before i decided to stop. People are right- you have to get to the bottom before you start going slowly up.

Anonymous:

I have been on subs for 9 months now. Started at about 6mgs a day and lowered my dose 1mg a month with minimal discomfort. I am now at a dose of about .66mg a day. I take my 2mg pill and cut it in half, I then take a half and cut it in 3 peices. I take a peice, which is about .33mg each, 2 times a day. I have been on this dose for 2 months now and cannot seem to get any lower. I tried today not to take a peice at all but by the 24th hour the w/d was too immense. After reading all these posts about the w/d's intensifying by days 2 to 5 I gave in and took a peice of sub. This is the hardest thing Ive ever had to do. I was addicted years ago to hydro and did the methadone to get off at that time. I took meth for 6 mos. Starting at 35mgs. That was easy for the most part. I really dont understand why everyone says its so much harder. I'm considering switching to methadone now to get off the subs. Any advice? Any hope? Help........

Anonymous:

I've been on suboxone for, I guess, about a year. I take a very low dose, 2mg either once or twice a day (sometimes every other day). I had an addiction to oxys and due to the nature of my job which is EXTREMELY physical, I feel completely dependent on suboxone now for pain relief.
I've tried to take myself off suboxone. Day 1 is a breeze. Day 2 is not so bad, but by night time, my legs are killing me (keeping me up at night). Day 3 is when the misery sets in and now no more suboxone is lingering around.
Stella106, you mentioned RLS. Are you diagnosed with RLS or is this a common symptom of withdraw? My legs hurt so bad at day 3 I've tried taking over the counter pain relievers and putting compression socks on (and I've tied rubber bands around my legs) and I still CANNOT sleep. It's awful.
I actually have a prescription for Requip (for RLS). But I'm not 100% sure I ACTUALLY have RLS. It gives me mild nausea so I don't take it. I'm wondering if I took my RLS prescription at Day 3, if that will help.... the very mild nausea is more bearable than no sleep due to severe RLS from stopping suboxone.

Anonymous:

Hey there, im 24 years old and have been on suboxone for about 2 years and am trying to get off. I became addicted to oxycontin when i was around 20 and was addicted to it for about 2 years with an x boyfriend. He's about 5 years older than me and already was pretty established in life so during our 2 horrible years of addiction he pretty much lost everything. I also spent everything that i had. He sold coke to support our habit which towards the end we were both addicted to also. I wasn't eating, sleeping, i wouldn't see my parents because i didnt want them to see me like i was. Finally we broke up and i moved home and got on suboxone (with mom and dads help) Its been a long road, and i definatly have NOT stayed clean. Its terrible, i will actually plan out when to take my suboxone so in case i want to get "O's" the next day. Im trying to break this cycle and just want to get off of everything but im so scared! My younger brother is also addicted to oxy's- which i think i consider my fault, even though all of his friends do them and sell them. They're everywhere! I guess i just needed someone to talk to- and was wondering if there is life after this!!

Anonymous:

Hey guys, I've been reading the posts on this site, and I wanted to share what has allowed me to get clean. It is the fellowship of Narcotics Anonymous. I know that the physical aspects of getting clean are hard, but they will pass in time. The answer for how to stay clean lies in adressing the nature of our addiction and what we can do to change so that we don't have to hide from life by using drugs any more.

Also, all are welcome to the rooms of NA if they are on Suboxone or any other treatment (or drug for that matter). The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using.

Submitted by worried878 11-25-09

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