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  I been wondering if adderoll is anything like crystalmeth.......and what are the long term and short term effects and is it safe to take long term? Im on 10 millagrames 3 times daily and there not the XRL. there the regular blue oval pills....... Im just really gettin kinda scared bout this drug....... thank you for your advice on this
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honestly, if a crackhead wants to get off the crack bad enough, he goes through days or a week or more of withdrawl.. better a week of hell than a lifetime, right?? if you want off of a substance, diligence, perseverance, dedication, struggle, u go through hell... but its well worth it to not be stuck on a drug... its a choice.... and only the addict can make that choice....
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You are way off the mark in your criticism of Genuine. Some doctors are very reckless in prescribing. They also often subscribe to fad medicine and diagnoses and tend to be brainwashed by pharmaceutical detail men. It may be that Genuine had a predisposition to addiction, but the garbage she was given was itself addictive. And as for defending Adderall (and I don't see how anyone in his right mind would do that) it is speed, no matter how you spell it.
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757137 tn?1347196453
Yes, you should be scared. Adderall is speed, despite its fancy name. If you get off it, get off it VERY slowly.
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189897 tn?1441126518
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Please be aware that strattera is very different than adderoil.  Strattera can definitely lead to thoughts of suicide.  
  ""On 15 September 2005 the MHRA was informed by the Marketing Authorisation Holder for Strattera (Eli Lilly) of an analysis of double blind, randomised, placebo-controlled clinical trial data for atomoxetine which has identified a statistically significant increased risk of suicidal thoughts with atomoxetine compared to placebo in children with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)." One attempted suicide and five cases of suicidal thoughts were reported out of 1,357 young patients taking Strattera, while none was reported out of a control group of 851 taking placebos.[10][11  You can read more about Strattera here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomoxetine
  I hope your new doctor is a psychologist and not a general MD. If he won't listen to you -  go to a school counselor and tell them you have suicidal thoughts and get some help FAST.  This is not something to mess around with.  This is also something that can be dealt with if you are getting the proper help.  Read this link and realize that depression is not that unusual  -  make sure you read it all the way to the bottom.
  http://www.medhelp.org/posts/ADD---ADHD/Are-you-Tired/show/1082106
     Please write back if you need some more information.  Start a separate post under you name here for more info.   But for right now get some help immediately!!  Your school doctor should have taken you off Strattera immediately.  You could be in a real dangerous situation and really need some good profession help.   Good luck
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Also it is not "another form of crystal meth". There are very many differences including a extreme euphoria and 12 hours of happiness and attentiveness with meth instead of a mild sense of well being and ability to focus generally lasting about 5 hours with Adderall.

That's not to say it should be used lightly.
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So you are blaming your lack of responsibility on the doctor? I'm sorry but the symptoms you are describing are from addiction. You should use your own judgement to decide whether you want to take more than a healthy amount.

I guess it helps that I have used other drugs and have learned to use in moderation. Because so many people go into taking Adderall as if it's some miracle pill that does no harm instead of a helpful drug that should be used carefully. It can be more dangerous and addictive than half of illegal schedule 1 drugs out there. But can also be extremely beneficial if used properly. By using properly I mean keeping your tolerance to a minimum; whether than means taking a break for a while when you feel you need to up your dose, or taking it only on days that it's necessary.

Not meaning to criticize you, just warning all potential users.
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Please listen to me.... By the way, I can't believe that I’m actually on one of these discussion sites, I was just looking for solutions to my problem, and hope to stop you before you create one for yourself.  
Regardless of the fact that I am anonymous, I want you to listen because I hope to save people from this terrible addiction one day; I hope to save lots of people.  It’s such an unintentional addiction for the people that start taking it , and these people are the naive sweet and innocent, who are made to believe by society that we need to transform our lives to live up to a certain social standards, or ideals.  These are also the people that are being suckered into the addiction by our nation’s ******* government’s lack of drug regulation.  Certain doctor’s have corrupted their ability to utilize their educations in a way to harm people, and people need to take it upon themselves to do what you did .EDUCATE YOURSELF, and ask questions before you believe that people’s claim is ultimately the truth.  With enough information you can determine what’s right for you.  The only reason I am here taking the time out is to inform those that if they are addicted they aren’t alone, and if you’re not, which I’m sure you are if you are on it for more than a month, to get the hell off!!
I am a 23 year old woman.  When I was a child, I was tested over and beyond my intelligence range in comparison to the children my same age bracket, in turn, had a physiological chemical off -balance.  I was diagnosed with OCD, ADHD, ABC, DEF, you name it!!!  I had it.   My mother wasn't for putting me on medications; she was afraid of the damage it would place on my liver.   I was extremely young when I was diagnosed by the way.  Growing up I was an amazing athlete with lots of drive, I played soccer, in addition to always party with my friends.  I was also a great student; I practiced cognitive behavioral therapy, at the University of Pennsylvania, which promoted a Holistic approach of looking at typical disorders that children are labeled with.  The majority of what they did for me focused on correcting problems that coincide physiologically and physically as opposed to taking a pill.
About 2 1/2 years ago, I started taking Adderral XR 10 mg twice a day; I am currently taking 30 mg of Adderral XR 2 times a day. XR stands for Extended Release.   Sometimes, if I have that paper that I have been putting off due tomorrow, I’ll pop an extra.  But recently whether it’s a paper,  late night of drinking, extra computer time, , I’ll take one before bed and 2 the next day, note that is 150 mg in my body on occasion…”Where is my doctor in this picture?” you ask.  Right, the one responsible for monitoring me, making sure that I am ok with the side effects and such, picture this.  
I am currently a Business major, in school still, finishing up in may/June. I have now been prescribed 60 mg of adderral XR a day for the past 2 years. Maybe I’m in denial, or maybe I don’t know, but I have never been addicted to anything in my life, not drugs, not cigarettes, and now I’m stuck on both.  
When I hit college I had just started seeing this new doctor.  He was funny and energetic (probably b/c he was prescribing himself a thing or two) Well, naturally I liked him.  He made me trust him.  He started me off on Straterra , to correct my never dissolving issue of ADHD.  I personally knew nothing would work, except me working on myself. According to everyone else, nothing had worked, as I’m sure he was already aware of, oh yeah, did I mention I didn’t and still don’t have health insurance, and he was charging a college kid almost a hundred dollars a visit, so that he could do “follow ups”,?  **** ups is what he should have called all of those visits.  
Next, came the big BANG!!!!!!!!!!  This was essentially the biggest downfall of my life.  I am emotionally mentally and physically crippled because of this man.    He wound up hooking me into this addiction, made tons of money off of the college girl for himself and the Pharmacy industry of good ol’ America.  I had to work an extra job in college just to pay for all the meds, and in the moment, thought truthfully that I needed it to make me better, but by the time I realized what it was doing to me, I was so sucked in that I didn’t have time to think or worry about what to do to make me better.  “Where is he now”?  You ask?  
He began cancelling apts. To the point that I would have to just show up there, and the drive to his office, is in my hometown, 2 hours away.  I never knew how crazy it was to have to drive all the way to his office to get him, because I never stepped outside of myself, or outside of my box, self centered is what I am, but not in a selfish non giving way, in a way that I worry so much about myself.  This drug has created so many added problems with my disorder and with me that I absolutely cannot move out of bed without it.  You have no idea what withdraw from this drug is like.  I feel like a crack head, and yet I never asked for any of this.  I have never  voluntarily took this to get messed up, because I don’t have an addictive personality, but when a doctor prescribes you meds at 20 years old, you want to believe what he is giving you is legitimate.
This has been a growing issue in everywhere in my life.  I don’t have the same feelings I did before this drug.  I find it really hard to be happy.  I used to always smile, and laugh, my last episodes of this behavior where before this drug came into my life.  I have no interest in sex, boys, and by the way, I am good looking, I can say that, because trust me, it’s not a feeling of satisfaction, in fact, I have boys throw themselves at me, and don’t care, nor want to associate with them.
I think of suicide a lot, I mean at least like twice a day, the only reason I don’t do it is because I think of what it would do to the people I matter to.  I mean the real people like my mom, my family, my friends, just because I can’t feel doesn’t mean they can’t.  
I am crying while writing this letter right now, but that’s the only emotion that I seem to possess anymore, feelings of fear, worry, failure, and my future.  I don’t care about things women my age are doing, I care about how I’m going to make the most money, have the nicest things, but really I have never been that way.  The drug has made me manic, but subconsciously I know that, so I keep myself in check.  If you don’t want Jeckle and Hyde to argue inside of your brain with you as the middle man in, then stay away from this ****.  
I have to end this by telling you that this doctor refused to take anymore appointments from me.  I felt like I was a drug attic whose drug dealer was running away from them.  He would tell the secretaries in the office to say that he wasn’t there.   I would be in bed for days on end waiting for my mother, who by the way was never aware of the severity of my addiction, nor the existence, to go to his office and pickl the prescriptions up for me, because he made me feel like a lunatic.  I knew I needed the prescription but did not have the knowledge, courage, or dignity to go myself and tell him how I felt.  
I am now with another doctor up at school, who just today told me that my doctor sent him a letter stating that I corrupted the prescription and he had to dismiss me as his patient. (Not in fact the truth) This is the news that I received about a half hour ago.  So, I’m sure this is just another issue I need to deal with.  STAY AWAY ANYONE WHO READS THIS….
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