HYDROCODONE HELP

[pugguy]

I am on day 5 of stopping vicodin es . I took 8 a day for a year . not sleeping . its hard but I need to get my life back . IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME OUT ..THANK YOU..

[marcatj]

go to the search engine on the other addiction site (see above for link) and search The Thomas Recipe.

also, Amino Acids - there've been a number of posts about which ones can help with anxiety, lethargy, etc. etc.

it IS hard... but man, you got 5 days!!!  you really should be through the worst... i am on day 6, and my energy finally picked up today.  and i'm just takin' stuff to help me sleep 'cause if mama don't get her sleep, it ain't pretty!!

there's also a homeopathic remedy called Simply Sleep that you can get at Whole Foods that is pretty good...

you are almost through the worst.  seriously, day 5 is fantastic.  good  for you and feel proud of what you've done, and   KEEP GOING!!!!  :-)

[pugguy]

Thanks for the help its day 6 now . its real hard . I will try the homeopathic remedys and check out the Thomas recipe. 1 more day closer . THANK YOU..

[turtwig]

Dear God I wish I were on day 6.......I am praying I can make i through today....

[pugguy]

YOU WILL make it trew the day . I will pray for you.

[pugguy]

the thomas recipe looks good . but i dont have acess to benzos. thanks again .

[Ga Guy]

This is a work in progress...something I've been working on off and on for the last couple of weeks. It's not considered complete, but has lots of info from lots of sources. If any of the "old timers" have anything to add, let me know and I'll add it to the document. I hope to use this to post a general "how to" every couple of days or so.

Listed below are suggestions for detoxing and quitting an opiate addiction. They are just suggestions compiled from the detox plans of people that have gone through cold turkey detox before. They are just that, suggestions, and any detox plan is best when done under a doctor's care. Consult your doctor before trying any of the suggestions below.
This is prewritten for anyone who is beginning, or planning on beginning, a cold turkey withdrawal to opiates. This includes drugs such as tramadol (Ultracet and Ultram) codeine (Tylenol #3, #4), Darvocet, Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco, Lortab and derivatives),  Oxycodone (Endocet, Percocet, Oxycontin), Morphine, Demerol. Fentanyl, and Dilaudud. There are many other opiates not listed, so if you don’t see it listed, you can still use these suggestions if it’s an opiate based addiction. None of these apply to benzodiazepine based addictions. These addictions should never be dealt with by going cold turkey. Always consult a doctor for a detox plan for benzos.

First of all, opiate withdrawals are uncomfortable, but rarely life threatening. You may think you’re going to die, but most of the withdrawal symptoms are just very uncomfortable. If possible, take some time off work or schedule a week or so in order to fully detox. You will honestly not feel like doing much anyway. Opiate withdrawal symptoms usually start 12-24 hours after your last dose. But, the timing of withdrawal symptoms depends upon the drug taken, length of time you’ve been taking it, and how you react to medications. The physical withdrawals usually last 3-7 days, with days 3 and 4 being the worst. Once again, this is all dependent on the person. You can expect these symptoms. Dilated pupils, diarrhea, runny nose, goose bumps, abdominal pain, stomach cramps, sweating, agitation, anxiety, nausea, vomiting, leg cramps, general aches and pains, and sleeplessness. This list is not absolute. You may experience all of these symptoms, only some of them, or other symptoms. Again, we are all different. Below is the famous Thomas Recipe. It gives some general information along with supplements that help with the withdrawal symptoms. The only thing I would add to this list is a blood pressure drug named clonidine. It effectively lowers the blood pressure and lessens many of the withdrawal symptoms. Most any doctor will prescribe it if you’re honest as to why you need it. Discuss dosages and frequency with your doctor.

Thomas Recipe:

1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (immodium) (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).

How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5. During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium (immodium) aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it. At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help. With breakfast, take the mineral supplement. As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.

[pugguy]

thank you  for the info .I will check in and let you know how it going. its the night time that I have the most problems with sleeping..

[idontknowme81]

Hello. I've never actually gotten online and came to a website like this, but I guess nobody does unless they are at a point where they need help like the world needs love. I've been using pain meds, mostly lortab, for the last 2 years at the most. It started out off and on, only after I got off work at 5, to taking them all day long. The all day long buzz began after taking them for 7 months or so. The most I've taken in one day would have to be 10 or so, and I most definately don't do that daily. However, I would say that I have to take at least 3 tens a day to function. I have a 2 year old daughter and feel as if I'm taking so much away from her. Instead of wanting to buy pull-ups or anything else she needs I worry about how to find some pain pills. I have taken money from my fiance and acted non-chalant about it, even though he knew I took it. Gotten behind on ALL payments, of any sort. And most of all, lost all self-esteem and control of this addiction. I'm at my wits end and just want to get some help. I've even called the Behavioral Health floor at the local hospital and begged them to admit me to safely detox and was told unless I was suicidal they couldn't. Anyone reading this knows that once the heartache has set in that your an addict, you are suicidal. I'm losing everything I've ever had, and most importantly ever wanted or needed, just to have what I want, to be high. I don't know what to do, would somebody just respond to my comment so I know that I'm not alone. Please help. God bless you all.