IF OUR COUNTRY WAS ATTACKED BY TERRORISTS

If we were to be attacked by terrorists again who would you rather have as president? Who would you feel more safe with McCain or Obama?

[owhatamistake]

McCain.

teko....perhaps you need to get over it.  We are ALL entitled to our views.  How dare you tell someone to go away???  Shame on you.

[nuredshuz]

Why are you so defensive about others views that are not the same as yours? This is an open forum that is for anyone to voice their opinions and views~ You really should chill just a tad, dontcha think??  Geeze Louise!~!

[owhatamistake]

Just to rile people up?  In your mind, maybe.

[owhatamistake]

Thank you. Exactly.

[owhatamistake]

Because they can?  Because this is America AND an open forum?  Why do YOU bite if it's such a redundant question?  

[HelpinUtah]

McCain.

[owhatamistake]

It seems that you want this 'honor' badly, therefore you get it.....ding, ding, ding....and the prize for the LAST WORD goes to you!  I am so over this ::::yawn::::

Peace out.......

McCain.

[allaboutmary]

Without a doubt  OBAMA.

[VicUser]

Politics can be a touchy thing, no need to apologize. The people will speak tomorrow, I hope we have a fair election and no matter the outcome we don’t have one side or the other crying because it didn’t come out the way they wanted.

[cathy5841]

McCain...

[HelpinUtah]

VicUser:
I agree it seems that this year seems more poloarized than previous years.  I think many of us are more passionate than ever.  I'm glad tomorrow is election day and we can stop worrying about all this stuff.  Whoever wins will receive my support.  

[hopsing94]

I agree, I just want it over. I will deal with whatever happens as it happens. It's just something about Obama that scares me. I really just don't trust this man. I feel like he does not have this country in his best interest. I think he will do and say whatever he has too, to win. My gut feeling is telling me that if he wins things are going to get very bad.

[kingdale3]

McCain for sure! I know this might make a few mad but i feel like obama would invite them over for coffee to talk about why they hate us so much. You know, group hug.

I am right there with you hopsing94. He scares me too and i also think that he doesnt have the countries best interest at heart either.

My two cents.....

[HelpinUtah]

I completely agree with you.  These are my gut feelings.  I don't believe his policies will work either.  But, it looks like he might win.  If so, I will support him as I've said before.  I personally hope McCain causes a surprise!!!  LOL!!!!

[kingdale3]

I have been a strong believer in unions all my life. I live in Iowa and it is "right to work" state, meaning i dont have to pay union dues but the union still has to represent me in a grievence. I have been paying union dues for the last 15 years anyway. The union has been backing obama, of course, he is a democrat and unions ONLY back democrats no matter who they are, and been giving his campain money. My money!

IF obama wins i will stop paying union dues, even though I have always believed in unions. That will be a very tough thing for me to do because i think i should be paying for my representation, but i think its wrong for them back a candidate without the apporval of ALL of thier members. Which they would never get, so i think that they should stay away from the election.

I KNOW that John McCain CAN win and hope that he does. I just think that when some of the people that have been backing obama, get in the booth to vote, they will actually vote for McCain because they know that he will serve our country better as president that obama.

I am not saying that anyone reading this will change thier minds. Its just my opinion.

[HelpinUtah]

Kingdale:

And, with the unions, you won't have much of a choice if you are an employee. Obama wants to make it so your vote will not be anonymous.  Therefore, people will end up voting for one even if they don't want one for fear of retribution.  That will cause undue hardship for small businesses.  

[flmagi]

Absolutley Obama.

[lovepat906]

I am an Obama supporter. He will surround himself by the best minds in America.I believe he would react with great intelligence to any breach of security- cut to the chase, not get sidetracked on some pre-ordained vendetta.
Of course- today I found out that Obama is "supported by black power anti-whites, Jew haters, Marxists,terrorists and mobsters." Yep. That lovely missive was left on the faculty room lunch table. I haven't decided which one I am yet...

[allaboutmary]

Lovepat,
I can't believe someone left that for you, crazy.  The "fear" Obama commercials are coming fast and furious now, here in Florida.  They really should be ashamed. What really bothers me is .....some people fall for it.

[lovepat906]

Just have to debunk the " secret ballot " stuff.

Business special interest groups have launched a $120 million campaign to derail reform of the nation's broken labor law system by lying about the Employee Free Choice Act.  Their only line of attack - that the bill somehow takes away so-called "secret ballot" elections for joining a union - is blatantly false.

The Employee Free Choice Act not only strengthens the current process for workers forming unions, but also provides for a more fair and democratic method for men and women to join unions.

Here are the facts to refute the opposition's fiction about the Employee Free Choice Act:

Fiction:    The "legislation would end the rights of employees to secret ballot elections."
– Center for Union Facts

FACT:      The Employee Free Choice Act does not abolish elections or "secret ballots." Under the proposed legislation, workers get to choose the union formation process—elections or majority sign-up. Under current law, the choice to recognize a union rests only with employers.

What the Employee Free Choice Act does prevent is an employer manipulating the flawed system to influence the election outcome.  When faced with organizing campaigns: 25 percent of employers illegally fire pro-union workers; 51 percent of employers illegally threaten to close down worksites if the union prevails; and, 34 percent of employers coerce workers into opposing the union with bribes and favoritism.

Fiction:    "Legal recognition of a union has traditionally been achieved through secret ballot elections…just like how a person votes for a senator or congressman."
– Center for Union Facts

FACT:      Current union elections involving "secret ballots" bear no resemblance to political elections.  Workers' free speech rights are squelched, employers practice various forms of economic coercion, and labor law allows employers to indefinitely delay recognition through drawn-out appeals.  Says >University of Oregon political scientist Gordon Lafer: "The presence of secret ballots can't overcome the corrupt nature of NLRB elections ."

Fiction:    NLRB elections are "the only way to guarantee worker protection from coercion and intimidation."
– Coalition for a Democratic Workplace

FACT:      Workers are more susceptible to coercion in NLRB elections than majority sign-up.  Workers in NLRB elections are twice as likely (46 percent vs. 23 percent) as those in majority sign-up campaigns to report that management coerced them to oppose the union. Further, less than one in 20 workers (4.6 percent) who signed a card with a union organizer reported that the presence of the organizer made them feel pressured to sign the card.

Fiction:   Majority sign-up is a "new approach" to forming unions.  
– Center for Union Facts

FACT:     Majority sign-up is a common way to form unions, and has been used since at least the 1950s.  Even major corporations like AT&T allow their workers to join unions using majority sign-up. The Employee Free Choice Act is necessary today because employers have become increasingly bold in violating employees' rights and the law under the NLRB election process.  When that process was developed, employers did not routinely engage in the massive legal and illegal violation of workers’ rights that is commonplace today.

http://www.americanrightsatwork.org/employee-free-choice-act/resource-library/lies--distortion-on-the-secret-ballot-20080730-596-84-84.html

  

[lovepat906]

What I love is that they leave that stuff  anonymously. Wonder why?

[flmagi]

Lovepat, I agree with you.   I don't understand why people fear Obama. Have the people set the bar so low for our presidents, that people have become suspicious and fearful of someone with intelligence, diplomacy and foresight?

[lovepat906]

Intelligence and education is often denigrated in this country  - hence the " My kid beat up your honor student" bumpersticker. Until we start to value and support them, we will continue to lose ground to our foriegn competitors

[VicUser]

Obama position on who is middle class is not clear and seems to be changing. Is it $150k and above as Biden says, is it $200k as Obama's infomertial said or is it $250k that he keeps saying when it is not $200k?

Why does Obama say that the bottom 95% of tax payers will get a tax cut and then he says the bottom 95% of working people will get money back, even if they don't pay income tax only with holding taxes, in other words they will no longer have to pay the social security tax but have all the benifits?

Why did Obama say that he would take public funding before it looked like he would win the nomination?

He does have some good points, but I think he is saying what people want to hear just to get elected and will change his tune once in office.

[VicUser]

Obama does have the right idea, it takes parents that care and work with thier kids to get them to care about learning and for them to do well.

[VicUser]

We can have a good discussion about school funding. I have spent a lot of time helping our school district get levies passed and had my eyes opened to the unequality that schools face. I think that all schools should get X dollars per student, not the unfair system we have that pays some schools 2 or 3 times more per student that most other  schools get only because the students do poorly and have parents that don't care.

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

McCaine - - Unless we can write in people like Colin Powell        --------------

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Good to see you active - havent caught you posting in a while - - best of the election day to you............

[hopsing94]

Does it not bother you people that Obama has been raised around people that hate this country. Don't try to give me the (it's not true) thing. Are you telling me your parents and the people around did not infuence you at all growing up. Why is it everyone who is black is voting for him if race has nothing to do with it, yet i'm the racist if I don't vote for him bulls**t!!!
  He won't wear a american flag on his suit. Why? I'll tell you why because he doesn't love this country like I do. Hey can say what he wants I'm not buying it. He has fooled millions of people with his little smile and smooth talk.  Is it so hard to fathom that this man could be as bad as people are saying. His dad hates this country, his mother hates this country and so do most of the people he was raised around hate this country. As much as people say this election is not about race it is. He is praying on and using for his benefit.
   What's the deal with Joe the plumber, why did the dems go after him. He didn't ask for that. He simply asked a question and next thing you know he is being investigated and this was done by Obamas people. Why did they go after the anchor woman if Florida for asking Biden a tough question. Why did he not do any town hall debates. This guy is lying through his teeth. His buddy Ayers should be in prison, he wants to bring this country to its knees. How about reverend Wright, his pastor of 20 years and all of a sudden you don't believe in what he preaches. Give me a freakin break. One lie after another and people are buying it.

[hopsing94]

Sorry for the rant but I want a president that is a true American that loves this country and believes in the constitution as it is written. Not somebody who wants to rewrite it and turn this country into a socialist society of taking from the workers and giving to the useless. Notice I didn't say poor. I'm all for change but not his kind of change. I want to know I can go to work and make as much money as I can and not have to give more of it than I already am to a bunch of people who do not work, do not want to work and expect goverment handouts. I want somebody who is going to stand up to terrorists and not treat them like they are harmless. These people cannot be dealt with by using diplomacy. I think that is obvious. I want someone who has this countries best interest at heart and who better than someone who was willing to give his life for it.

[dominosarah]

I dont wear an american flag pin either.........does that mean i dont love my country??

[VicUser]

Only if you are running for Pres, lol

[dominosarah]

well arent you feeling your oats tonight!!!!!!  Go get ready for your tv show!!!  LMAO

[HelpinUtah]

One thing that someone brought up today that made me stop and think is that everyone is falling for Obama's charisma, education and his smooth talk.  But, if you were interviewing someone for a job for a leadership position wouldn't you want that person to have experience in leadership.  Obama, if he wins, will get on the job training!  I'm sorry, but if we hire people based on their resume and experience - how does Obama qualify.  And, in this instance, I'm leaving the fact I disagree with his ideologies aside.  Just that fact alone keeps me from voting for him!

[gflmom]

For me, it's simple.  All candidates have pros and cons.  No one is perfect.  And  the two men are completely different.   One man gave myself, including his physical body to his country for the past 40 + years.  The other man came from no where,  got over $600,000 or is it  600 million? from whomever and has pal-ed around with people who DAMN our country.   Question.... why don't these people leave if they feel this country is bad?  hmmmmm   And millions trying to get in !!!
Anyway, because McCain gave so much for us, and he works with all and he has years of experience,  he's got my vote and my prayers.   God bless this country.  We aren't perfect but we try to help all citizens of this world.  Mistakes we will make but our heart is in the right place.    Let's all appreciate what we got here.

[jollyman069]

everyone just get over it already

[RJ233]

The thing that bothers me about the election as a whole is all the problems with registrations. No requirements of id. Today I saw on tv the police found thousands of voter registrations on a highway. The police said it was a civil matter. Does that make sense? There was a report that a bunch of the military registrations were not going to be accepted because they didn't fill in areas or some off the wall reason. That was from one of the voting registration offices.They aren't checking all of the fraudulent registrations where people have registered numbers of times. With no id anyone could come from anywhere and say they are that person. I only tell them my name and address when I go. We atleast want to know our vote is counted. We have no idea if they have sifted and found the fraudulent registrations, so they didn't vote early and get a vote in already. I never heard anything else about what they did about all those registrations they found. Were they taken or were they planted to get them in? Are we going to go to the polls and be told we are not on the list? One of the governors was saying that.This is a mess. Yet nothing moves the date of election. They should have been made to get those things straight before they took in anymore info and extended registration. I mean they are messing with what we go to the polls to do, and we have no idea what they do or have done as far as straightening out what 13 states? This stuff is plastered all over the tv. Then the computerized whatever new machines for voting they said they are having problems with and they might shut down because of so much activity. This has got to be the worst origanization for voting I have ever seen. Has anyone heard anything that we can be assured that they have straighten things out? Since there are thousands and thousands of votes involved it could affect the whole election.

[allaboutmary]

Just to straighten out the fraudulent registrations. These were fraudulent "applications".  
I will try to explain this way.....

Magi and I registered voters this year.  You just give the person a form to fill out and enter their license or ID number.   By law all these applications must be turned in to the registration office.....even if the name was Mickey Mouse.  It's at the registration office that these applications are gone through and checked for valid information. These registration offices are run by republicans and democrats equally. So there's no funny business.  
As far as Acorn is concerned they were doing as Magi and I were......having people fill out applications.  They do not do the validation of these applications. They actually tagged the applications they thought were fraudulent before they turned them in, but by law they had to turn them in. The registration office then filters out all fraudulent apps.  
So the bottom line is fraudulent apps do not equal fraudulent votes.  Mickey Mouse never received a registration card after filling out an application.

Yes, there was tons of fraudulent apps. turned in, but this was by employees trying to make easy money.  It is a problem, but DOES NOT LEAD TO FRAUDULENT VOTES.

I am concerned about states that have registration and voting the same day. I'm not sure how those states are weeding out fraudulent apps.  Hopefully they have computer systems set up and can verify the applications on the spot.

I do fear today for the states that did not have early voting.  If there was 6 hr lines in the states that had early voting .......just imagine trying to get it done in one day.  They need to keep those places open until every last person gets to vote today.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !

[lonewolf07]

Why won't Obama wear a flag pin on his suit?  Just curious.

[allaboutmary]

He wears one all the time.  Maybe not everyday, but probably just as much or more often than McCain.   This was just silly republican spin. Obama loves this country just as much as McCain does. The republicans have tried to make everyone think that Obama is not patriotic with all this stuff.  Actually there are some uninformed people that are falling for it. So I guess it was a good tactic even though I think it's really LOW.

[Jacqui805]

McCain

[hopsing94]

I don't see how anyone could think for a minute that Obama loves this country. I haven't seen him do anything to show he loves this country. Hell his wife is just now proud of her country. Was she not proud of it when she was getting her college education and while she held her job at the hospital. The Obamas pastor does not like this country and neither do some of Obamas closest friends. The want change for this country allright. They want to change the constitution, they want to take away our right to bear arms. They want to change it from a capitalist society to socialism. Check your history books. Socialism does not work. We will end up a poor broken down country with no jobs, no good health care ( it will be free but your doctor may not be any smarter than a fifth grader) and so much more.

[VicUser]

Hey man, I know you are passionate about this great country and I too have many concerns about Obama, but give it a rest.

We will know tomorrow who won and like it or not we will have him as the President for 4 years. The time for campaigning is done, it is time now for us to start getting on our Congressmen and women and Senators to do what is right and stop looking out for themselves and special interest. We need to wake up and see that it is up to each one of us to make our lives better and not the Government. May God bless the USA  

[HelpinUtah]

VicUser:

I agree with you, but I also think so many people are especially passionate right now.  It's hard to stop the campaigning when you are worried your guy is going to lose.  I agree that we do need to start getting on our local politicians and vote in those we think can get America's work done!  I agree - God bless America!

[allaboutmary]

I think if Obama wins you will all be happily surprised.  I'd bet money on it but ....I don't have any.lol  I used to.

[VicUser]

I hope you are right, but I am not going to hold my breath and no way would I bet you are right. I will keep my fingers crossed though.

[hopsing94]

I know, I know I will stop.  It will be what it will be. I will deal with whatever happens just like anything else. There is alot that remains to be seen. Tomorrow will come and I will go to work just like any other day and life will go on. I can promise you one thing. Anytime there is a chance to vote on something I will be voting.

[lonewolf07]

Thank you for answering my question about Obama and his flag pin  = )

[LateAugust]

Who are the terrorists?   Quite honestly   the Timothy McVeighs  and the Anthrax lunatics  and the Skinheads  and the Bandito's   etc etc   scare me a LOT more than (I am assuming you are referring to extremist  Muslims)  attacks originated outside the US.        Oh,  and those indiviuals or groups  have and continue to kill many more Americans than "the terrorists" did on 9/11.  I am not diminishing 9/11 one iota   and also lost a loved one on that despicable day,  and continue to pray to God we will eventually go after the perpetrators in Afganistan/Pak.......not Iraq.......whom attacked our country.        But the violence in our country scares me and am surprised it gets so little attention.

To answer your question.......Whomever will committ to funding  and supporting our agencies to fight the random and organized crime originating within the US.

[trippedoutgirl]

You have to know war to fight war. I hope that answers your question.