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402205 tn?1230481005

Mary: Change my Republican mind!!!

Okay Mary you have made a challenge to change your mind, why don't you change our (Republicans) mind!!
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306867 tn?1299249709
Hope your feeling better. Have you tried that Excedrine Migraine.  Magi gets them and says they help a lot.
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611067 tn?1458591483
I know I said I'd be posting some things this weekend, but guys I've been in bed most of the weekend with a horrible migraine!  I've read some of your posts - good stuff!  I'm so glad we can all share our opinions!!!  WTG!!!
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306455 tn?1288862071
LOL  When McCain flys off the handle and shows his temper, they call it passion.  
If Obama was to react the same way, they'd call it an angry black man. Every time McCain changes his position on issues, they call him a maverick or a reformer. I can't seem to keep up with what he stands for, One day he says one thing, the next day he's trying to cover for what he said the day before and change his stand on the issue of the day. The only thing I haven't heard him change is that he agrees with Bush policies. Standing with Bush has been the only constant with McCain that I have seen. I think McCain is headed for a break down and will be drooling out the side of his mouth by election day.
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482220 tn?1238122251
Haaa, wild meaning his liberal socialistic ways. I believe that "blank check" will get very FAT after the dems try to tack on a stimulus package. I'm not against this sort of idea, but it shouldn't distract congress from getting the real problem resolved first.
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I prefer calm, intelligent,, prudent problem solving myself.But then I am a moderate - not a " lefty". And Obama has actually already put together an impressive group of tried and true economic advisors as well as outlining his major requirements for this economic bailout fiasco.

Here it is transcript  and video :

http://www.wcnc.com/news/ politic...h.9ad4f8ca.html

"First, there must be no blank check when American taxpayers are on the hook for this much money.

Second, taxpayers shouldn’t be spending a dime to reward CEOs on Wall Street.

Third, taxpayers should be protected and should be able to recoup this investment.

Fourth, this plan has to help homeowners stay in their homes.

Fifth, this is a global crisis, and the United States must insist that other nations join us in helping secure the financial markets.

Sixth, we need to start putting in place the rules of the road I’ve been calling for for years to prevent this from ever happening again.

And finally, this plan can’t just be a plan for Wall Street, it has to be a plan for Main Street. We have to come together, as Democrats and Republicans, to pass a stimulus plan that will put money in the pockets of working families, save jobs, and prevent painful budget cuts and tax hikes in our states." Barack Obama


Now YOU c'mon Paul- You guys have been painting this guy up as a wild eyed radical- now he's too cautious? You can't have it both ways- although that seems to be the McCain strategy.
You are telling me that GEORGE WILL - the quintessential conservative  - is wrong in his presidential expectations?
Alice- I think we are through the looking glass...
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482220 tn?1238122251
ahh comon now, you lefties like to get angry at the rich and here is a guy that's showing he'll do something about it... passion baby! Or we can take the Obama approach and present his classic overly statesmen demeanor--- the economy will have then been recovered by the time he stops is first statement about the problem! If he even knows what the problem is...
be afraid.... be very afraid... the new Obama campaign slogan. :-)

ps: save us Al Gore.
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Looks like GEORGE WILL has changed his republican mind. You can check this out yourself on the ABC/ This Week site. I couldn't believe my ears.

For John McCain, the panel discussion on This Week with George Stephanopoulos could not have been more brutal.
Conservative columnist George Will declared that the Senator was decidedly un-presidential is his unexpected call for the firing of SEC Chairman Chris Cox, "I suppose the McCain campaign's hope is that when there's a big crisis, people will go for age and experience," said Will. "The question is, who in this crisis looked more presidential, calm and un-flustered? It wasn't John McCain who, as usual, substituting vehemence for coherence, said 'let's fire somebody.' And picked one of the most experienced and conservative people in the administration, Chris Cox, and for no apparent reason... It was un-presidential behavior by a presidential candidate."

It should be noted that McCain's call for the firing of Cox was dismissed right off the bat, as the president does not have the authority to axe an SEC chairman. The criticisms that Donaldson raised concerned the fact that McCain started the week by touting the fundamentals of the economy, before pivoting into fits of populist mantra and calling for increased regulation of the markets - position at odds with McCain's traditional economic philosophies.The whole, painful, episode crested with Will leveling an even harsher blow:

"John McCain showed his personality this week," said George Will, "and made some of us fearful."
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306867 tn?1299249709
I'm with ya newgirl !
I love hearing both sides, even though I feel some are twisted (cough Paul) lol  Just messing with ya.
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Toxic...Mary That's IT!!! 'Come on...I see ya smiling...I love this thread...I love when we're adults and can have actual conversations about things...conversations include both sides getting their point across without stiffling the other...healthy dialog...hopefully opening each others eyes up to both sides. Some stuff, I haven't considered some you haven't, therefore sharing of knowledge. Love it.

Back to singing swaying with my Stevie Wonder/Michael Jackson  sun glasses on...We are the world...We are the children.....
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ROTFLMAO PAUL!!!!
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482220 tn?1238122251
kumbaya my lord, kumbaya....raise my taxes my lord and squander away.... socialize medicine my lord, and wait all day.... give to the lazy my lord and steel my pay....

I can hear it too...
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306867 tn?1299249709
Swaying and singing with newgirl.  

Magi was really drunk a long time ago and did that song on kareokee (sp)  Wish I had it on video. lol
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390416 tn?1275185087
LOL...always keeping the peace....how are you?
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We are the world....We are the children...'come on everybody...hold hands...sway with me once more...sing along...sway...that's it...We Are the World...We Are the Children....gooood!!! Keep it up...'come on..can't hear you...
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482220 tn?1238122251
;-)
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306867 tn?1299249709
You said not to refer to mcCain. lol so I left his name out.
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482220 tn?1238122251
>>>Do you consider France, Canada or England socialist countries ?
Of course I do. I suggest living in England for a couple of years and start your small business. Then you may reconsider what socialism is...

>>> Probably a touch more than the other canidate, but no I do not
Than McCain?? huh?
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You are, and will always be, special
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402205 tn?1230481005
I know I can't believe there's another Mimi! I thought I was special, oh well...
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306455 tn?1288862071
I'm just talking to myself here....we now have mimi1313.....the mimi, we're try to get on the Obama side.......and  mimi170...she's new, don't know yet who she's voteing for, but I'm sure we'll find out soon.lol
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228686 tn?1211554707
Well, my answer on China was to some degree an oversimplification of the whole situation.
China is in a period of industrial growth right now. In about 50 years, if they continue at this rate, they'll likely be a/the top economic power in the world. They're investing in one of their greatest resources; manpower (there's ALOT of Chinese in China).  

They've already generated a lot of additional income from just what they've done in the last 20-30 years. They're actually the country we SHOULD be keeping an eye on that could challenge the US for preeminence in the world community in the not to distant future. I'd guess that purchasing bills/bonds is part of that gradual move towards economic domination.

In all reality they won't call in the debt. That would cause initial financial losses and disruption to the economic community that no one really wants right now. The US economy is still in a position to have a significant incidental effect on the rest of the world for good or bad.

BUT... they will use it as a velvet covered fist to manipulate US policies on a variety of issues, in all areas of diplomacy and business.
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Grand juries, held over for contempt of court... those are special situations that can only be applied in specific circumstances. And you still have access to your legal counsel. true, it's a loophole in the system that can keep you locked up indefinitely, but a judge has to have "just cause" to apply such action.

The patriot act can be used by ANYONE in law enforcement, from the highest judge to the lowliest police officer. It's a carte blanche application of totalitarian power.

The police can break down you door, as your typing your response, without a warrant, arrest you, and whisk you to a "special detention facility". They don't have to tell you why,  they can deny you ANY outside communications to family or legal counsel. They can keep you locked up for YEARS without giving any real reason.

All under the guise of suspicion of "domestic terrorism". Don't be so sure it can't happen. There are numerous incidences of use of the patriot act to arrest and hold drug users/dealers. After all, it's called "The war on drugs" for a reason, and drug sales are often considered a potential threat to domestic security.

And you know why we're all on this forum...eh? ;)
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306455 tn?1288862071
When paying my taxes at the end of the year, I would like to decide where my hard earned tax money goes (I know thats an impossible pipe dream). I would rather my money go to health care for all, alternate fuel programs,education and helping americans in need. Not to wars made from lies, bailing out big bussiness, oil companies etc.  Is this socialism?  There will always be the same amount of government, republican or democrat. The only difference is where the focus of that government is.
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306867 tn?1299249709
Do you consider France, Canada or England socialist countries ? I'm not being a smart *** here...I really don't know much about how these countries are set up, but only know they have universal healthcare.
I have heard France's citizens have free healthcare, college. even day care.  They say if you add up what we pay for these things plus our taxes, we pay much more. Their taxes are high but they don't have the other exspenses. This personally doesn't sound too bad to me. I guess I am for a touch of socialism.
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306867 tn?1299249709
Probably a touch more than the other canidate, but no I do not.
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