New Suboxone Side Effects Noted

Hi. I have taken Suboxone and Subutex hear and there and finally went with the program for 1 year. I did exactly what the doctor said to do and found that in about 8 months in, I began to form anxiety problems which made it hard to interact with people and caused my jaw to lock up during conversation and it made me sweat extra.

I noticed that some of my friends who where on Suboxone had the same problem around the same time that it happened to me. One friend was on Suboxone for 4 years, and his anxiety continued to worsen until his stomach would swell up if he didn’t take his anxiety medication. He has to take 2 to three other meds for that and they have to be rotated often because of tolerance, and they are some of the strongest that are offered by them selves. They are said to be deadly to use with Suboxone because of possible overdose. His doses are very high too.

Another issue has to do with schizophrenia. This is our other friend and I hear this is also happening to others as well. He has been taken Suboxone for 3years and about 2 and a quarter years into this med, he began to really show signs of schizophrenia to the point that it has caused problems with friendships, finances, neighbors, and much more. He thinks people are thinking things about him and he secludes himself from others. All his neighbors ask me why he won’t talk to anyone. I am no longer aloud to visit him, and he thinks I’ve broken all his stuff and yet I fix everything that isn’t broken. I see him go into many rage blackouts where he destroys his own stuff, and then the next day he thinks I did something. Once he thought I was going to stab him with my pocket knife.

This is only some info, but these two people are my best friends and yet I found my self saying that it was better when we where all on Heroin, now I don’t know them! Ive been off Suboxone for one year, but I couldn’t kick the low level withdraws that where left behind (just as some others say), which led me back to Poppy Tea recently as I’ve done years ago. For 13 years total of the Tea and the only bad side effect was constipation and there’s ways around that.

I would like to know if there are any class actions going on for Suboxon. I was told of a commercial on cable but I haven’t seen it. What do you think of all this?

BTW- Suboxone seemed to be different than Subutex and I wander if the naloxone is to blame?

-soundheart



This discussion is related to Physical side effects of long term Sub use.

[avisg]

First problem is of course there is no long term studies on sub because of the amount of time its been fda approved in the us for even 10 years yet .I am sure someone will post with the exact year it was on  .However I find it hard to believe it could be causing schizophrenia unless the person was already going to suffer from the disease how old is this person and are they male or female ..I have never heard about any class action suits against it .I am sure it probably can cause anxiety with side effects like this are you and your friends continuing to take it or are you taper off of it .How much are you taking?4 years is a long time for them to be on it .Are you and your friends getting recovery care like aa or na ? I will look around and see what I can find out anything is possible but some of this may be caused by other things. I will let ya know wha
t I can find.

[avisg]

I could not find anything about class actions suits against it but here


In October 2002, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved buprenorphine monotherapy product, Subutex®, and a buprenorphine/naloxone combination product, Suboxone®, for use in opioid addiction treatment. The combination product is designed to decrease the potential for abuse by injection. Subutex® and Suboxone® are currently the only Schedule III, IV, or V medications to have received FDA approval for this indication. Note that aside from Subutex® and Suboxone®, other forms of buprenorphine (e.g., Buprenex®) are not approved for treatment of opioid addiction.

The FDA approval of these buprenorphine formulations does not affect the status of other medication-assisted opioid addiction treatments, such as methadone and LAAM (levo-alpha-acetyl-methadol). As indicated in Title 42 Code of Federal Regulations Part 8 (42 CFR Part 8), these treatments can only be dispensed, and only in the context of an Opioid Treatment Program. Also, neither the approval of Subutex® and Suboxone®, nor the provisions of DATA 2000, affect the use of other Schedule III, IV, or V medications, such as codeine, that are not approved for the treatment of addiction


Side effects of buprenorphine are similar to those of other opiates and include nausea, vomiting, and constipation. Buprenorphine and buprenorphine/naloxone can precipitate the opioid withdrawal syndrome. Additionally, the withdrawal syndrome can be precipitated in individuals maintained on buprenorphine. Signs and symptoms of opioid withdrawal include:        
        
  Dysphoric mood
Piloerection
  
  Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
  
  Muscle aches/cramps
Yawning
  
  Lacrimation
Mild fever
  
  Rhinorrhea
Insomnia
  
  Pupillary dilation
Craving
  
  Sweating
Distress/irritability
  




Dysphoria  is an unpleasant or uncomfortable mood, such as sadness (depressed mood), anxiety, irritability, or restlessness.[1] Etymologically, it is the opposite of euphoria.

Dysphoria refers only to a condition of mood and may be experienced in response to ordinary life events, such as illness or grief. Additionally, it is a feature of many psychiatric disorders, including anxiety disorders and mood disorders. Dysphoria is usually experienced during depressive episodes, but in people with bipolar disorder, it may also be experienced during manic or hypomanic episodes.[2] Dysphoria in the context of a mood disorder indicates a heightened risk of suicide.[2]

Dysphoria can be chemically induced by substances including µ-opioid antagonists[3] and selective ĸ-opioid agonists

[Painful93]

WOW, okay, last saturday as I was going shopping with my wife, (there was a snowstorm on the way) I developed this, Attitude" a nasty kind of mindset, where I was behaving like I woke up with a Benzo hangover. My wife was disgusted and asked me what my problem was. I had been throwing items into our wagon and was really unbearable.
After that I started to cut myself sown by 4 mgs a day and today is my 2nd day without Suboxone.
I don't know why this happened but I didn't like it one bit. I asked other people and some had the same experiences.
What's going on?

[avisg]

painful ohhhh yeah if you try to jump off at 4mg you are going it have a very hard time you will go threw nasty withdrawl (withdrawal) they say you really need to go all of the way down to ..5mg then .5 every other day .

[Painful93]

What is the smallest dose in milligrams avisg? I thought they only come in 8 mgs, 4 mgs and 1 mgs tablets. Did you just use a pill cutter to get the 1/2 mg dose. By the way, thanks for your input. It really is appreciated.
Fred

[salsinator]

Hey Fred - Use a pill cutter to cut the smallest pieces that you can.  Some people have said that they dissolve just a minute amount in water and take it that way to get the smaller dose - the pills only come in 8mg and 2mg form.  Obviously it would be easier to break into the smaller doses at the 2mg strength, but many don't get that.  I took 1/4 of an 8mg tab and just broke it into small crumbs to get the smaller doses.

[avisg]

fred ,
I think they come in the 8mg and the 2 mg I think what they do is get the 2mg and yes cut them I am sure somebody will either pop in saying that correct info or not .They cut them into tiny pieces .

[jrock7733]

hey guys. yeah ive been on this evil drug for 4 years man. i cant get off its the biggest mistake ive ever made. it absolutely runs my life. i tell people who are about to start to NOT. just stop taking vics or whatever and just handle the minor aches and pains of street drugs. once i didnt sleep for 9 days and ended up in the hospital. and they still could seduce me. they literally had to get some suboxone adn admit me. as soon as i got 4 mg of suboxone i fell asleep 1/2 hour later and slept for like 2 1/2 days. evil man. just evil.