Serious food for thought for my fellow addicts

Hey everybody,

Just a quick backround note on the post I'm about to write on this side of the forum. We have been goofing around on the social side of the forum (like we always do) and we've been on the subject of having an official singer/songwriter for the forum. I've been campaigning to have Neil Diamond be our official singer so whenever you sign on to the forum you will hear Neil Diamond music playing in a continuous loop (sounds good to me). There's been lots of support for Neil (feel free to vote on the Social Side-there is an ongoing poll keeping track of the votes)  Anyway, long story short is that lots of bad jokes came out of this and we all have been having our laughs over the last few days. It was just suggested that if Neil didn't get voted in we might want to consider Janis Joplin. My first thought was "What?!? Not Neil?!?" and then my second thought was that she died from a drug overdose. Here is basically what I posted on the social side:
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I love Janis Joplin but she can't be our official singer/songwriter because she overdosed and died :-(
Having said that that means there is a lot of good music we can't use in our soundtrack because there was an actual drug overdose associated with them:
Alice in Chains, Blind Mellon, Sublime, Mother Love Bone, Graham Parsons, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, The Who, The Vandals, The Sex Pistols, The Germs, Skinny Puppy, Morphine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Def Leppard, Atari Teenage Riot, Nike Drake, Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker, The Pretenders, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Hole, The Temptations, Rory Gallagher, The Squirrel Nut Zippers, Tommy Dorsey, The Righteous Brothers, Malfunkshun, Ratt, Crazy Horse, The Byrds, The Smashing Pumpkins, Ramones, Culture Club (okay..they sucked), AC-DC, Three Dog Night, Blues Traveler, Little Feat, Uriah Heep, Canned Heat, The Associates, Deep Purple, EMF, The Grateful Dead, Average White Band, Thin Lizzy, The Blues Brothers (tragedy).

Then we have our awesome musicians/bands who had people die BECAUSE they were abusing drugs/alcohol or they overdosed on it but it caused them to drown or whatever. So a drug overdose or habitual abuse killed them but the official cause of death is listed as stroke or heart attack or cirrhosis of the liver or GI bleed or head injury or whatever:

Styx, Billie Holiday, Nirvana, The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, The Doors, Humble Pie, Mamas and the Papas, Derick and the Dominos, The Guess Who,  Michael Jackson, to name just a few.

Sorry, not trying to be a downer....but these two lists are only a tiny, small portion of the musicians/bands that have had drug abuse ruin them.
Obviously these are only some of the bands that have been affected and I've only listed off the ones I could think of off the top of my head. I'm sure if I spent some more time on it I could make my list a whole lot longer. Plus, there are tons of other musicians/bands that don't fit into the 'good music' catergory in my opinion so I don't have them listed because I don't like their music (with the exception of Culture Club--I have NO idea why I put them on my list because I really think their music sux.) I didn't care for Michael Jackson's music much either, but he was a pioneer so I put him on the list. There are lots of individual jazz and blues musicians I could have put down, but most people wouldn't know who they were so I tried to keep it main stream and relevant to all.

Anyway, I know we all like to joke around and have fun- I do too. But every now and then I gotta go for a reality check. I LOVE music and it saddens me to see all the great talent we've lost because of someone's inability to overcome their addiction.

Any thoughts or ideas from anyone?
Any names of music we can't include in our soundtrack?

Hope I didn't bring everyone down. I'm the first one to goof around to lighten things up. It's just that I was reading through this post and realized that Janis Joplin couldn't be used and it made me sad and it made me start thinking....
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Anyway, the above is what I wrote. I just wanted to share it with people. All the bands that I know of that have been ruined by drugs kind of boggles the mind. We've lost so many great musicians to addiction. It made me realize the world has lost so many un-named people that had a lot to offer the world also but they lost the battle with their addiction.
I don't want anyone here to lose that battle.

Stay strong,
Greatgreebo

ps-feel free to go to the social side and weigh in on Neil Diamond. I triple dog dare you :-)

[troubleinohio]

i will have to  check out this other thread/poll youre talking about. I havent been reading/posting as much here lately (been super busy and 2 sick kids to take care of here) but did want to comment here on 2 things...who died from STyx?? i had no idea... also the Alice in Chains thing does make me sad. I watch Celebrity Rehab, and Layne's mom was on the last 2 episodes.(Layne was the singer for AIC who died of a drug overdose)  Mike (the former bassist is in the rehab for methadone/heroin addiction) and the most recent episode was extremely touching as they had Mindy McCready sing a song and show a slide show of the celebs in the background, and Layne's mom spoke a very moving piece. That episode had me BAWLING and not a dry eye in that room on the show either.
Now, tell me who died from STyx??

[vicki595]

WOW !   You listed all of those bands off the top of your head?  You are a brainiac!

I voted for Neil Diamond.  He's getting older(aren't we all) but, as far as I know, he only smoked cigarettes,quit in'86, and doesn't drink etc...He's still putting out some great music and still writing.  I like his older music...

Well, that's my two cents...

Vicki   xo

[OIFMc09]

Honestly, the whole things a bad idea.  I don't want to have to turn my volume down every time I come on here.  Because you know what?  Not everyone wants to listen to Neil Diamond or the righteous brothers or Janis Joplin in a continuous loop!  Sorry to be a downer, but the age range on this site is from teen - geri you know?

[Greatgreebo]

John Panozzo, the drummer, and one of the twin Panozzo Brothers who were founding members of Styx, He died on July 16, 1996 from complications of alcoholism.  I really like Styx. It's a shame they got knocked out of the running for our official singer/songwriter because of drugs and alcohol. :-(
John was around and playing during every great song/album they ever had.

Sorry TIO,
Greebs

ps...OIFMc09....Um, I hate to break it to you, but we are joking around here about the whole songwriter thing-except for the Righteous Brothers you mention as an option... because we are not joking around about them and they are not in the running for our soundtrack because they had a death caused by a drugs/alcohol overdose...........anyway, hahaha-wer're having some fun here. Perhaps we can get you a sense of humor for Christmas? I'm sure they come in all age ranges....you know, from teen - geri.

[dominosarah]

Well then throw in a track of Burl Ives then.......that should cover all ages

[Greatgreebo]

ROTF LMAO.....(which means I think you JOKE is funny...you know, hahaha!)

[cleanmom]

How about Percy Sledge?? Everyone loves him!!!!!!

[10356]

Yeah with everyone of these deaths we all felt it if we were fans.. but we continued to use ? ok I vote for the Beatles !!!! No matter teen or geri you gotta recognize them :)) and Niel Young just for me :) lesa

[trinity555]

Hello, I'm Triny.  I love AIC and was bawling my eyes out at the last Celebrity Rehab. When I was in highschool I met Layne and he was one of the nicest people you would ever want to know. There music is powerful and after all these years of listening to the songs, his lyrics still make a great impact. I really hope Mike finds his way out from "down in a hole"    It's interesting, I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who was talking about Celeb Rehab, but I worry too about when he goes home. His father is a drug addict as well and I don't think he really wants help. This is not going to go over well when he sees him again. Much like Amber's mother on the first celeb rehab parental guilt seems to be a b*tch.

Hope you have a great day. Blessings to you and yours:)

[Greatgreebo]

'oooooo....that might be an idea.....a soundtrack featuring 'the Neils'...they would have their music leapfrogged throughout the album.....

[10356]

this would be great !! either we would go to sleep or go deaf for the pitch lol lol

[Greatgreebo]

oh yeah baby...nothing like the neil young whine at full volume to break an eardrum!!! lol

[vicki595]

"The Neils"...  now that's funny!   I LOVED "Harvest" back in the day,long,long ago in a faraway land...

I thought of the Beatles (love 'em)  BUT...they were naughty,too.

"Lucy in the sky with diamonds"...

"Hello,my name is Vicki and I am a Geri "

xo

[10356]

I still live in that far away land lol lol My hubby can not take Niel Young lol it drives him crazy but in my junkie days he was the Man !!!!!!!!

[dominosarah]

Maybe a little Bobby Sherman.......Julie Julie Julie do ya love me??  Ahh forget it i am going to stick with my bad boys........ACDC, Judas Priest, Kiss etc.....time to turn it up and rip off the knobs........

[vicki595]

10356:    Yeah...loved him,too,along with Led Zep,Black Sabath,Blind Faith,Cream,The Doors....on and on.

INAGADADAVIDA BABY !!

V.

[10356]

Now we can not forget 3 dog night.. iron butterfly Jimmie Hendrix..  em I showing my age lol lol

[dominosarah]

Oh 3 Dog Night is the bomb.....Dr Hook?  Love watching the videos of those boys!!

[Radiostar55]

How about the group DeepHeat and the Jockstraps singing their Number 1 hit  "Great Balls of Fire"?  Or Nick Nasel and his 9 Nasty Nose pickers hit "I'll get you yet..you little booger you"?  :)

G

[Greatgreebo]

First off...yes, there is some age showing going on.
Secondly, Three dog night, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, The Doors and AC-DC are not eligible as they all have deaths caused by drug/alcohol overdoses....sorry to rain on the parade....oh, and even the Beattles are guiltly by proxy-their first manager OD'd and died. So they should probably be out also.
Surprisingly, NOBODY in Iron Butterfly OD'd or died....which is amazing considering the song:   INNA-GODDA-DA-VITA.....you wanna talk about somebody being seriously gorked out of their mind!!! Yikes! How many drugs do you have to be on to talk like that?!?

[10356]

Oh great I will never get great balls of fire out of my head now !!!!!! lol lol and the list is not complete with out the Rolling Stones !!!! Whoo Hoooo

[vicki595]

Donnie and Marie??..."I'm a little bit country...I'm a little bit rock and roll"...LMAO

[10356]

Donovan !! Mellow yellow need I say more lol

[Greatgreebo]

HA!! Good ones!!


103565

How can you even suggest the Rolling Stones as an option for our drug and alcohol forum with a straight face......that's like suggesting Michael Jackson for.........okay, self check. You see where I'm going.
Ya' gotta love the Stones and have some respect for them. They actually managed to not have anyone OD and die from drugs....which is a miracle in and of itself. "SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL"............and ...."GIMME SHELTER"
now that's music.
Okay...Stones are in. They are symbols of triumph over drugs (and drugs and more drugs and even more drugs..........)

[10356]

lol lol some one is watching over them.. must like there music also :)))))))

[Greatgreebo]

You said "Oh 3 Dog Night is the bomb.....Dr Hook?  Love watching the videos of those boys!! "
um, hate to break it to you but they didn't have 'video' back when those bands came out.....probably just some cave etchings you had to run by real quick to get a sensation of motion...HA!

greebs

[dominosarah]

So is Burl Ives in or out?

[Greatgreebo]

Hate to say it but the only way Burl is gonna sound any good is if you are on drugs....so, he's OUT for being a bad influence and causing people to do drugs......

[Greatgreebo]

the FUF hasn't weighed back in....WTF?!?

[Radiostar55]

I like Burl Ives!!  Have a Holly Jolly Christmas!  and Jimmy Cracked Corn and I don't care!!  :)

[Greatgreebo]

Jimmy cracked something...like his head on a big stone in order to cause enough brain damage to make Burl Ives sound like a good music choice :-)

[dominosarah]

ROTFLMFAO!!!!  How about Pat Boone?  Oops forget that he had ugly shoes!!!!!!!!!

[troubleinohio]

wait wait wait, are you SURE rolling stones are in and that no one has died? I would swear that Keith Richards has been a walking corpse for at least 4 decades now LOL

[vicki595]

Okay...Well...Steven Tyler and Joe Perry are still alive...barely...  In and out of detox though...Does that eliminate them??

[Greatgreebo]

once again...ROTFF LMFAO!!!!

TOUCHE'

[troubleinohio]

trinity- yes it sure was tragic for AIC singer to die that way and so young. I was a fan of theirs from their 1st album (can i say "record" here and show MY age too, hah!) At least I didnt say 8 track.
as for the Celeb Rehab show- there is a whole thread about it on the social side if you havent seen it yet, check it out. I love that show- this is my first season watching, too.

[vicki595]

Okay..thinking waaay back now...there was another member of The Stones who died years ago.  He drowned in the swimming pool;combo of drugs and alcohol. What was his name???...there was a book about it. David something I think.  Not thinking of the Beatles here...

[troubleinohio]

btw thx for posting this thread..im loving the BLast from the Past here - all these old bands I havent heard the names of for years, if not decades! THin LIzzy! I didnt know anyone still alive these days knew of them still, LOL.  I used to go through my older brothers record albums starting when I was like 5 yrs old (this was in the early-mid 70's) and I knew pretty much every band there was then as he had a wide variety in his taste for music.   He knew some obscure ones too- let me think if i can recall any of their names to throw out here and see if anyone else ever heard of them

Caravan
Tangerine Dream
Atilla (a band I believe Billy Joel started out in eons ago)
Jay Ferguson (I think his first name was Jay...lol)
Peter Gabriel
Cozy Powell? (he was  a drummer)
Flash

thats all i can think of now...i can see some of these old album covers in my head stll btw, weird huh, lol

[Greatgreebo]

Journey/Joe Perry can stay..."don't stop believin'" could be our theme song.............Steven tyler/Aerosmith are a no go........come on. one of their most popular albums was entitled 'Rocks'........don't care what the cover art shows....we all know what it makes you think of...

[Greatgreebo]

I used to sneak into my older brother's room and go through his records too...of course he would always figure it out and track me down for a noogie sandwich or two.....ah. the joys of family

[dominosarah]

Anyone remember Jerry Jeff Walker?  Up against the wall redneck mother......

[troubleinohio]

LOL my brother didnt care- he was always the coolest big brother (still is). I used to wait for him to get home during the summer when I was out of school and could stay up all night (he worked 2nd shift) and we would listen to records or a good radio station and he would make lists of new songs they would play. He used to have tons of yellow legal pads filled with "new songs" on them LOL (yes we are a weird family i guess). I can still hear the crackle of static on the radio from a 2 a.m. wicked summer thunderstorm coming...

[Greatgreebo]

of course I remember him...Mr. Bojangles...

[10356]

yeah they made that song after meeting my mom lol lol

[vicki595]

Okay...forgot about "Rocks". (Hanging my head in shame and stupidity)  LOL

Trouble~ Wasn't Peter Gabriel married to Liza Minelli ? (sp?)

[dominosarah]

Who hasnt been married to Liza?

[10356]

lol lol

[Greatgreebo]

who hasn't had a drink with Liza Minelli?!?  She's out for being a drunk.
Peter Gabriel....he's in.

[vicki595]

Sara~ good point  LOL

Okay...I've got it now...Brian Jones was part of the early Stones...died late 60's early 70's(hurting my brain to remember)   Drowned in a pool,couldn't swim,too many drugs..

[Greatgreebo]

OMG!?! that is so funny...my older brother thumped on me endlessly BUT I have many brothers. When I was working a second shift (right out of high school) I would get home and my little brother would be waiting up for me (I'm a few years older than him) and we would sit up half the night listening to the radio and I would make lists of ALL THE NEW SONGS and then talk with my little brother about all the different bands etc. and on my days off we'd go to the record store and flip through the new albums to see if we could find any of the new songs we put on our list.
That is so weird. I love those memories....and I know that my little brother always refers to me as his 'favorite sibling' and he loved our time together. I guess it's nice hearing it from the younger kids point of view. I hope my brother thinks I'm as cool as you think your big brother is!

[10356]

ok Peter Framton.. Stepenwolf.. moody blues who of these have not done drugs ?? besides Donnie and Marie Osmond lol lol

[10356]

frampton !!

[dominosarah]

Get your motor running....head out on the highway, looking for adventure in whatever comes our way.......

How about Head East or Black Oak?

[Greatgreebo]

yep...you're right..Stones are out......and Keith is still dead.

[vicki595]

Greebs~  Keith...yeah he is...LOL

Jerry Jeff Walker...He's a good one.  BTW...Neil Diamond sang Mr. Bojangles on one his albums.

"It's a small world after all"...

[Greatgreebo]

okay...the 'it's a small world' kids from Disney Land have got to be on drugs. Nobody can be that cheerful day in and day out dressed in those stupid costumes and singing at everyone who floats by. They're OUT in my book.

[dominosarah]

what about ZZ Top

[SophieShine]

sara, you're my gal!!!!

[dominosarah]

Jim Croce had some good songs,  Harry Chapin, Cats in the Cradle

[Greatgreebo]

ZZ Top "Arrested for Driving While Blind"...first stanza lyrics are:

When you’re driving down the highway at night
And you’re feelin’ that wild turkey’s bite
Don’t give johnny walker a ride
Cause jack black is right by your side
You might get taken to the jailhouse and find
You’ve been arrested for driving while blind

Gotta say their OUT.....for being a bad influence and advocating bad things.

[10356]

ok if we are going on themes we are going to have to boot everybody except donnie and marie :)) or maybe engilbert humperdink lol lol

[Greatgreebo]

Jim Croce is in......he's a great musician. Harry Chapin...another good guy and he is in too.
We should put Cat Stevens on our acoustical guitar music list. He's definitely in.

[Greatgreebo]

Okay, Donnie and Marie are clean...but I thought the theme was GOOD music from clean musicians to be considered for our soundtrack. Can you honestly say Donnie and Marie in the same sentence with the words good musicians....without immediately uttering the phrase "April Fools"?!? I think not.
Sorry 10356...It's my job to ask the tough questions :-)

[SophieShine]

Being with one foot in the music industry, I really doubt we're gonna find any decent artist, let alone a good one, that never touched any substance and/or didn't write any lyrics about it. Hey it's not for nothing we call it sex, drugs and rock 'n roll! lol
Maybe s/o that has been thru rehab and is a success story would be more appropriate, just an idea...

[10356]

lol lol Can you honestly say You do not like Puppy Love lol lol and No I have not had a straight face since I started reading this post lol
You are good at the tough questions !! :))

[Greatgreebo]

We have to disqualify Englebert Humperdink by proxy....SOMEBODY in his immediate family had to be on some serious drugs to give him a name like that...and then the fact he didn't change it as soon as he was old enough is an indication that he was on some serious drugs......
I vote he's OUT.

[10356]

lol lol I never understood this either lol lol

[Greatgreebo]

sounds good....I'l start tallying up what we've got so far

10356.....Frampton!! yes--he's in!
domino....Head East....In, In, IN!!! Love Flat as a Pancake and Live!!! Got both albums....Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time!!

[Greatgreebo]

Um, so far we have (bands/singers that are drug free or overcame their drug problems and didn't lose anybody) But, they have to have good music and you have to say their name in conjuntion with 'Substance Abuse Community' without feeling like a hypocrite:
Harry Chapin, Tangerine Dream (they ROCK), Neil Diamond, Cat Stevens, Kiss, Sound Garden, Metallica, Tesla, Iron Butterfly, Jim Croce, Peter Frampton, Deepheat and the Jock Straps, Peter Gabriel, Jerry Jeff Walker....I really think Ozzie needs to be on the list. He's managed to overcome a lot....and when I say his name with Substance Abuse Community I think 'yep, he belongs there'...anybody else want to weigh in?

People/groups who don't make the list because they aren't good musician....let me know where I"m wrong:
Percy Sledge, Bobby Sherman, Donovan, Burl Ives, Donnie and Marie, Pat Boone


What say you all...overall it's pretty depressing looking for our soundtrack...we'd better step it up a notch or Satan may call and ask to borrow our soundtrack to play on a continuous loop down there as punishment for his new arrivals......

[dominosarah]

How about Creedence Clearwater Revival......go for it Greebs!!  They had some good songs

[Greatgreebo]

forgot Head East on the good list.

[dominosarah]

Ozzy has been clean for 61/2 yrs and Jack and Kelly are clean now too.  Add him to the list.......

[OIFMc09]

okay, sorry I feel pretty bad not realizing you guys were just having fun.  But I haven't heard a mention of a little Hall and Oates or some old school Chicago...before the sappy 80's stuff, which I must admit I think I like just as much.  All clean musicians no?

[Greatgreebo]

On the IN list are:
OZZIE, Rage against the Machine, U2, Linkin Park (the lead singer overcame drug addiction and is very outspoken as an anti-drug advocate), The Mighty, Mightly Bosstones, The Verve Pipe, Eurythmics, the Eagles, CCR, Jethro Tull, Third Eye Blind, Three Doors Down, Crash Test Dummies, Fleetwood Mac (they're all clean and sober-it took some doing but let's be proud of them), Tom Petty (without the Heart Breakers)



OUT are Counting Crows, Van Halen (Eddie still struggles with Booze), Jane's Addiction (Bummer, cause they rock),

[Greatgreebo]

You are right, Chicago is in and Hall and Oates are (barely) IN ...but they are IN


Also, 'Yes'  is IN....they have always been a great band with their sh*t together.


ps--we tend to goof around a lot. It's the easiest way to deal with a very sad reality sometimes. Sorry for harshing on you...it was first thing in the a.m and though your sense of humor wasn't turned on yet-my tolerance definitely wasn't.
It's all water under the bridge now. thanks for the suggestions......Our soundtrack is looking a little bit better than it was 1/2 an hour ago.

[Greatgreebo]

The IN crowd:
Collective Soul, Lynard Skynard , Allman Brothers, Phish, Pink Floyd (they overcame a lot but are all clean and sober and still great musicians), Elton John, Billy Joel, Dr. Ralph Stanely and the Clinch Moutain Boys (seen em LIVE in concert--amazing), Soul Asylum.


The OUT crowd:
Oasis, Guns and Roses, Velvet Revolver


I'm now going to wait to see if anyone else weighs in........if not, I guess our soundtrack list is done for right now..............let me know if you disagree with any of the IN groups

[OIFMc09]

At 109 I'm surprised you haven't suggested any of the roaring 20's big band stuff.  Drug use wasn't much of an issue back then so I'm sure the list of possible candidates is endless.  Your wit is sharp for someone I'd classify as super-geri.,  and your ability to rattle off all these bands that your great-great grandchildren grew up on is very impressive ;)

[cleanmom]

Simon and Garfunkle??? lol

[Greatgreebo]

Well, you know...at my age I don't have much else to do but reminisce about music with the great, great, great grandkids. I love my new Eminem CD- they sure take care of ol' g-g-g-grandma. I dated a guy that really broke my heart back then, so I've pretty much blocked out the whole decade-music and all.

so, any opinions on how our 'draft' final music list is looking? I think we are up to almost 80 posts on this thread. It would be cool if we could break 100 posts. Everyone just needs to keep the suggestions coming in.......

CLEANMOM....OMG!! I can't believe we forgot Simon and Garfunkle......people need to keep posting until we feel pretty solid we've got all the musicians that are deserving of being on our soundtrack!! Dig deep into memories long filed away. Keep the good suggestions coming! Like I said to OIF, I'd like to break the 100 posts barrier.

[OIFMc09]

Eddie Money and REO Speedwagon?  This seems to be very 70/80's centric so I'm trying stick with that era.  I'm sure INXS and Steely Dan are out?  Wow this made me think of something.  Does anyone remember the band Days of the new?  Well the lead singer was on an episode of intervention.  I wonder how he's doing.

[cleanmom]

eric clapton, bob seagar, dw stevenson??? forgive me i may not have these spelled right!

[troubleinohio]

what about Captain and Tennille? lol   Alvin and The Chipmunks?   Boston? Santana?  The Knack? Rush? The Police? U2?  Not sure those were mentioned already

[troubleinohio]

PS another favorite band of mine from that era was Triumph (fight the good fight)

[cleanmom]

Ok, so hows about some country?? Can't forget about good ol Bosefus!

[Greatgreebo]

Here's my opinions:
Triumph...........they are IN for sure, in fact, can't say IN enough when it come to them...
Boston.... IN,                
Santana-did some drugs but are okay now so IN,          
Captain and Tennille stink...so I vote OUT,    
Police are IN,      
U2 already mentioned and are IN,            
The Knack.......hold the phone
REO Speedwagon IN IN IN......
Eddie Money-he's alive and a drug/alcohol overdose just about crippled him...but he got lucky and can still walk and claims to be clean...so I vote he is IN,

Um, INXS..stroke and choke so I vote OUT (too many bad life choices there).

Believe it or not I really don't like Steely Dan or Bob Seger at all..so I vote they are OUT (I really dislike their music) so I'll leave the final say up to someone else..................

BUT the lead singer of Steely Dan is DONALD FAGAN and he is IN IN IN in my opinion ,nanyone remember the soundtrack to the movie Heavy Metal?!? He sang 'True Companion '
and on that note,
let's not forget Don Felder (from the Eagles) he did two amazing songs on that album: 'Heavy Metal (Take a Ride)'  and  'All of You'....so he is so far IN, that he went back out and then all the way back IN again !!!!

[Greatgreebo]

guess we were having to much fun and weren't being serious enough so we got moved to the social side of things.....should have seen that one coming!

[avisg]

geebs you are just to much funnnnnnnn

[vicki595]

Okay...a few others I'm thinking of now...Not exactly hard rock but...

James Taylor...big druggie but still making music and seems clean now...

Dan Folgerberg...nice music back in the day...died 2 years ago of cancer  :(

Oh and what about Queen?   I know Mercury died but not from drugs...

[LateAugust]

Jay-Z    Beyonce   Katy Perry      Lady GaGa     Daughtry   Nickelback     just some newer bands to cover the  generational gap   not sure of their drug/alcohol usage, but not too sure of anyone on this forum either...    I love BoyzIIMen  

REO Speedwagon,   Boston,  Black Sabbath,  and heaven forbid yes Bon Jovi, Journey,  Queen, AC/DC, bands that a lot of us "danced to the music"  and to this day I love to listen to them.........  and still dance too.

If you are looking for  a poster child of bands......   have to say it would be Gene Simmons from Kiss.......  he never drank, did drugs, and managed the band as well as a member....


My honest opinion, music is like politics...a bit of tolerance would be nice ..  there is no absolute right or wrong.....   However more so with music,  I think most have forgotten the arts.  Whether that be a painting or dance or music (from symphonies to ballet to jazz, etc etc) ...  for me it is essential to the soul.     And I am sure if I were to list all the music I really like, it would bore most to tears.....  eclectic interest I will always strive for, or so I hope.

OIFMc    What are your interests and favorites, I would really like to know, you kinda got cut off earlier !!  Thank you if you are willing to share! :)  

[vicki595]

Sorry...Fogelberg...

And....The theme from Rocky 1...by Michael Conti.   I play this everyday. Loud. It's my "you can make it to the top" medicine.  I know...it's corny but it works for me...:)

Not many females listed...Heart?  Patti Smith? Janis Ian?( Lulu? LOL) Natalie Cole?
K.D.Lang?  BARBRA?

[vicki595]

Hey~ Lateaugust:

..."but not to sure of anyone on this forum either"...  You're joking right?

[merrymaria]

born free...matt monro....i m telling my age now...make sure you crank it...maria

[LateAugust]

Yes Vicki, I was joking.......   so many judgements and myths flying.......my point is, how can we truly know another's life?  In all honesty we can't.....  and music:  rock or jazz or an opera or soul or country or deep southern baptist or strings or a flute ......  in my humble opinion it is a necessary element that feeds the soul..... and that is hard to put in a box.  Especially a box filled with judgement....  but then I am one that thinks Micheal Jackson had incredible talent.....    I think I am a bit odd here :)     i hope you have never seen me sit in judgement of others, however if I caused you doubt then I am so very sorry...  I hope you know that would never be my intent.

[vicki595]

Lateaugust~   Thanks for that...I thought you were joking...sort of tongue in cheek...

But I always like to make sure...so I ask.

Yes,music feeds the soul...I agree.  This whole thread started off, and still is,pretty funny.  It was meant to be funny...nothing serious at all.

I thought Michael Jackson was a HUGE talent;a genius. I never understood his proclivity toward young children...but think he was a kid himself in an adult body. We'll never know now...

And,no, I have never seen you sit in judgement of anyone. I've read your posts. You always come across as a sage and loving person.

I know we've been silly on this thread and, I have to say, it's been fun. We all need a little levity   :)

Vicki  xo

[Greatgreebo]

as for country....unless you are talking Hank williams or Hoyt Axton or Dolly Parton...well then, I hate to be the one to break it to you....but country is the devil's music. Sorry......gotta say No to all of it........Just say NO!! :-)


everyone... AC-DC is permanantly off the list....I know it's depressing but come on, two words people: Bon Scott.....nuff said.

[Beargizmo]

Way Back TIO....the Rolling Stone who died was Brian Jones.



Jim

[dominosarah]

Gotta have me some Blackfoot!!  Love their music.

[dominosarah]

Night Ranger?  38 Special?

[vicki595]

Bobby Darin?    Willy Nelson?   Frank Sinatra?   My Mother?


LMAO    Tired now..Time for bed..

'Nite 'Nite

xo

[Wolverine819]

I agree with Late August,who i think is always on point with her comments.
Shouldnt it be a more contemporary person then Neil Diamond,I dont even know who he is.
What kind of music did Diamond play.
Was he the calypso singer who sang Day-O?
My Grandmother used to listen to that guy.
I cant believe anybody still listens to him,why would you want him to be the voice of the forum?
My vote is for The Killers or Kings of Leon

[dominosarah]

Neil Diamond sang "Sweet Caroline" among other songs......Many people still listen to him......

Greebo will tally the votes im sure in the morning.......

[LateAugust]

This truly cracks me up........  I have never seen so many posts, well any at least in this sort of time frame!!!  So after the "tally" will the theme song be playing everytime you sign on to MedHelp?  Obviously I know it won't.........  however I am amused at the number of responses to music, of all topics.  And yes I do realize I have at least four.......  it is a bit of a hoot!

[SophieShine]

What about Pearl Jam??? No dope story there,       I think.......

[troubleinohio]

no one's mentioned Barry Manilow yet? lol (personally I cant stand his music but i know he still has a  huge following today)
and Greebs- that is so funny that you did the same thing with your brother- making lists in the late night hours too!!! how ironic!!!

[vicki595]

Did we forget"Little Stevie Wonder" ?

His album: "Songs in the key of life"  was great!

Trouble~  LOL   "One note Manilow"?     "Oh Mandy...you came and you gave and I"...

I'm still going with Neil Diamond~

V.

[Greatgreebo]

Sophie...Pearl Jam used to be called Mother Love Bone.Andrew Wood was their lead singer but then he oversosed on heroin and died....so they got Eddie and became PJ.....As PJ they have had no drug problems etc.....Pearl Jam is IN


TIO...I'll make you a deal...if Neil Diamond gets hit by a train then Barry will be a shoe in for the 'IN' list....but not a moment sooner

dominosarah....gotta love Nightranger--they're IN......Blackfoot...IN.

Vicki.....James Taylor is IN.....Stevie Wonder......IN  


As for 38 Special.....I don't know if it would be appropriate to have an official singer/band  for the forum that has the name of a gun as their title (remember, this is serious stuff we're voting on here) my gut feeling is to say they're OUT..............what say you all??

[vicki595]

Well...guns DO have their place...Hunters,Law Enforcement,Military...

But...38 Special...I think not.

So...you're putting Neil Diamond and BARRY MANILOW in the same(sinking) boat?
Crying now...where are the tissues???  Oh...here's a towel...that will do it...
okay...sniff...towel is soaked now.  It's okay...I'll be fine.

[Greatgreebo]

nope...Neil is NOT in the same boat as Barry. Barry is only allowed in Neil's boat IF Neil is hit by a train......I highly doubt that will happen so as far as I'm concerned Neil is the MAN and Barry Manlow is spam!!

no sinking boat for Neil.

[vicki595]

Oh good!   Feeling great again...

[Greatgreebo]

what....did you all weeny out and don't want to talk music anymore??

It's looking like NEIL DIAMOND is gonna be our winner with about 200 others as a close runner up :-)

[LateAugust]

Personally, I think satire is a lost art...or perhaps just lost on some....    That being said,  I still vote no on Neil Diamond: god fearing- tax paying- straight as a frigging arrow (I mean that morally, not sexually, just so no one misunderstands)-voting citizen- that I am :)  my honest all joking aside vote  would have to go tp The Beatles.  Without a doubt, the true artists of "my" generation.....  maybe some other generations  as well....

[GA Guy]

OK, I haven't read this whole topic, but I don't get the idea of picking some squeaky clean person to be the "official singer". Wouldn't it be better to pick someone who'd battled this terrible disease and made an example of themselves as a clean and sober musician? the names that come to mind right off the bat are Eric Clapton, who's battled his own alcohol and drug use and has gone on to open a rehab facility and donate literally millions of dollars to it's upkeep.  Or maybe Stevie Ray Vaughn, who battled his own demons before dying in a freak helicopter crash clean and sober. Even someone as cheesy as Elton John, who has gotten clean and works tirelessly for tons of charities. I think these are the real musical heroes.

[Jade59]

I LOVE Days of the New.  Travis Meeks was sure struggling with addiction last time I heard.  He was on Intervention last year.

[Jade59]

Oh, hahaha...you said he was on Intervention.  I didn't read your entire post...was too excited to see someone mention such an obscure band.  I do wonder how Travis is these days.  He was only a teenager when he made his first album in 97 and very talented IMO.  A real shame he got into drugs so heavy.  I'm waiting for his comeback.

[Wolverine819]

thank God for Late August being on here
she is the only one who makes sense of anything

[vicki595]

To Wolverine819~  Yes,LateAugust is very sensible,bright and full of wonderful advice.
She's,also,very kind,has a quick wit and enjoys and understands a good satire.

She'd make a good role model for you~

Vicki

[dominosarah]

How about Johnny Nash.....I Can See Clearly Now?

[Jade59]

Maybe Jesse Colin Young with the Youngbloods?  

♪Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together...

[beatingthis]

Gotta agrre with sara about Creedence Clearwater Revival love them
I know we are all a little on the "older"side but how about the black eyed peas?
Or
Bonnie Raitt
BRUCE!!!!!!
Tina Turner
Eurythmics
Slow hand Eric Clapton

:)

Ok I like Neil too

[Jade59]

I'm cool with Neil.  My very first concert was seeing Neil Diamond in 1972 so he holds a special place in my heart.  Aug 24th 1972...I was there for the Hot August Night recording.

Love Credence too...

[dominosarah]

Oh Tina Turner......You Better Be Good To Me~~~~~now that song rocks~~~

[vicki595]

Jade~~  I saw Neil in'72 for the first time...I actually cried,I loved him so much.  LOL

Beatingthis~~~Where have you been??

Eric Clapton was already "disqualified."  LOL   But Yeah...he's great.  I spent most of yesterday playing all my Clapton cd's...VERY LOUD...it was a fun day around here :)

Yeah...Tina Turner...now there's a woman for ya!

V.

[Jade59]

Vicki - what a coincidence!  I saw him at the Greek Theater (I'm in CA) with my parents since I was only 12.  Had broken my tibia bone a few days earlier, so went in a cast, crutches and all.  Wouldn't you know we had tickets in the C section which is at the top.  Veeerry slow going up all those steps on crutches, let me tell you, but I had Such a blast!

♪ You got the way to move me, Cherry...  

[vicki595]

Jade~~"Cherry babeeee...."  LOL   I was 17 when I went to that concert...no parents...
graduation present to CA. before college...

One of my favorites is "Play me"..."I am the sun you are the moon I am the words you are the tune...play me..."    MM MM yeah I would have played him...LOL

LMAO     Live at The Greek!! Yeah,baby!

Vicki

[Jade59]

Vicki - remember the "tree people" at that concert?  The crowd who didn't get tickets but were listening outside the surrounding walls?  Or were maybe actually in the trees, I don't remember, lol.  You can hear Neil referring to them on the Hot August Night album.  

I like Play Me, too :)

[Greatgreebo]

We're getting lots of single votes for other bands....but nobody leading the charge for any one of them....ergo NEIL DIAMOND is a shoe in....unless someone wants to start an Anti-Neil crusade or a Pro-someone else crusade...whichever it may be.

(I may very well start an Rasputina campaign....I've not missed a concert of theirs...because they rock!
They are amazing. Two cello players, one drummer and a couple hundred awesome songs.
Look em up on the web.)

I'll be the first to throw it out there....but I like Eminem........he makes me laugh (okay...let the stoning begin)

[vicki595]

Jade~~Yes!!   "Tree people I'm playing for you too!"   They were literally in the trees and he was so cool about it.   What a blast that was...MMMM

I've been to many of his concerts since then...all over the place and recently in MA.
He STILL has a great butt!!  LOL    He's getting older(obviously) but I still see that young guy.  Kind of like when I look in the mirror and see a really young girl...LOL

I'm officially a Diamondhead...

V.  xo

[vicki595]

Greebo~~  I do like Eminem...he can have a bad little attitude but...who am I to talk!
LOL

V.

[Mangee]

Where have you all been hiding your heads. Have you all forgotten Tiny Tim and "Tiptoe through the tulips?" My goodness. when you talk of greatness, how can you leave out Tiny Tim. Why he and his ukelele would add class to this forum. Think about it.

[LateAugust]

That loud thump was my head hitting the floor....... Eminem...... maybe I am the one that has lost my sense of humor,  Eminem??    I wouldn't allow his Cd's in my house.... his words are so bad   I mean  really degrading   towards women......  well pretty much anything!  So I am truly shocked and chagrined! :)  Seriously.

Now Tiny Tim.............    that brought me out of cardiac arrest and made me laugh so hard I cried!!!   Thank you Mangee for the Heimlich maneuver, whew just in the nick of time!  You saved my life!!  

[vicki595]

ROFL !!!!!   So,LateAugust~ you really don't like Eminem,huh???  LOL

Actually,we don't have his music in the house...I have 19 yr. old daughter and told her the same...he's very disrespectful toward women...her reply: "Aren't they all" and "I'm not buying that stuff"!   Got to love her...

Oh...Tiny Tim...I actually remember that Johnny Carson show when he married Miss
Vicki.  Hilarious...LOL     So glad Mangee saved your life tonight Late!  I would have missed you greatly~~~

Vicki   xo

[dominosarah]

Eminem??  Oh good lord.....Please tell me this isnt so.  Rap is NOOOOOOOOOO way in as that isnt music.

[vicki595]

To All~~~

I think we forgot....JIMMY BUFFET...I can't believe it...

He fits...not "sqeaky clean" ( by a long shot! ) and his music is... ( I can't think of a good adjective here)...island-y   LOL   and upbeat.

What say you?

[beatingthis]

Like buffet. lot os sonegs about drinking.....

[vicki595]

To...Beat..      Yes...loads of songs about drinking,I know.  But,he gave up the stuff years ago sooo I thought maybe he would be okay.   :)

not sure though...

[Greatgreebo]

How about Southern Culture on the Skids...they're funny. Anyone remember their 'Camel Walk' song....look it up on the internet...funny, funny, funny....that's what we need on the forum is some humor.

[Greatgreebo]

here' the link to Southern Culture on the Skids' Camel Walk song.....get ready to laugh (you'll all recognize it from the radio):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP5rwVNJko

[beatingthis]

I LOVE THEM!!!! The camel walk song.  Too Cool :)

I had forgotton about them...there on the IPod now!!!
Thanks.

How bout sexy Roxy Music Love was ther drug lol!

[Greatgreebo]

Rosy Music Rocks......
It still looks line Neil Diamond is gonna be King.
I've tabulated and scored and it's looking good for ol' Neil.


Last chance people-I'll be sending a letter tomorrow :-)

[beatingthis]

Neal is good with me.

How ya feeling???? I have been looking to see if you have posted!
Good to see ya.

Terry

[beatingthis]

I forgot Little Feet!!!!!!! Dixi chicken........ Or Let it Roll YESSS!!!!