11 DAYS CT OXY! UPDATE

[raventwo]

Well, we're at day 11. Husband is still wanting to run his face through the wall. Emotions today-somewhat humurous, but angry. I appreciate the posts immensely! I was getting worried, because yesterday, he was at his wits end, and was very frustrated, and I was frustrated, and nobody responded, so I was feeling hopeless. But after getting home, and reading the posts, I feel better. I DARE NOT, tell my hubby that he's looking at what was it, 9 weeks, until he feels better???!!! GOD NO!!   I read him the posts, and one of them said, that still not 100% and it's been awhile, and he said WHY did you just read that to me?? (Like I knew what it was going to say anyway) He said, you know how I feel about that? I CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY SAYING THAT THEY ARE AT 60 DAYS & STILL FEELING TERRIBLE! IT makes me loose hope! So, I had to pump him back up, and then he was ok. Today a little better than yesterday- He's listening to music LOUDLY, he says it makes him feel better. He says i'm trying to explain to you as detailed as i can how i feel, and right now, I just want to smash everything in site! DO YOU UNDERSTAND????? He says, ask one of your friends on here, I'm sure they know what i'm talking about. I dont want to hear, see, smell, touch, be touched BY ANYONE! Do YOU UNDERSTAND??? So- this is day 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[raventwo]

me again, i was just talking to my hubby, and he said to let you know, that #1 he just had no idea he would have such a hard time not taking the z's, he had no idea that it was addicitive, he just didnt think about it, he was so gung ho about getting off the oxys that he didnt think twice about the z's, then towards the 4 or 5th day, i think, he started weining off of them, but still feeling terrible, he says, since he should be feeling much better being through the worst of the opiates, does he now have to take a little z during the day? Is that going to make him feel normal? Or can he just take a little at night? he said he used to just take it, like a quarter of it, right before bed, because it knocked him out within like 45 min. when he didnt take any z's, he was ok, but it was hard for him to get to sleep now that he thinks about it, he would have to take like sleep aids. but he's wondering now that he went all out for the first 4 days of opiate w/d's and used the hell out of the z's, now in order for him to feel 100% like he feels he should by now, does he need to take a  little of the z during the day?? He just didnt realize he would have to worry about this at all!! Please any suggestions would be grateful!!

[raventwo]

Hey everybody, we are on almost 3 weeks now, and all day i hear him saying this is bs, how can I STILL be feeling like SH**!?? HOW! Than he says the xanax, its got to be the xanax so i say, just wein off of that, ok, dont go c/t off of that just wein. but he wont take any during the day, just at night, so during the day he feels like total ****! he says before i was just taking like a quarter of a bar, thats it to sleep with no problems at all, then i went c/t off of the opiates, and used the z's full force, sometimes taking 2 1/2 at a time! then he didnt have them, so i got the tylenol pms and other stuff, & he was about to cry because he felt even worst, then we got the z's filled, & he will only take it at night still! He hasnt started the new job, because he has no energy, he can't focus, his eyes are still dialated, etc.... now he thinks he will just start the other job in a couple of weeks, and NOW use this time to c/t off the z's but i told him its dangerous & not to do it that way. so i dont know what he's going to do. he keeps telling me that its up to me to tell him, what i want him to do, if i say go ahead & start the new job, he will do it, if i tell him not to and just wait, he will do that too, I DONT know!! why do i have to be the one to make this decision??? UGH this is alot more difficult than i ever anticipated, we both thought for sure, that he would be better now. this sucks!!!  Oh, HAPPY EASTER to all my wonderful friends!!! hope the easter bunny was good to you all!!

[topcat184]

we've been off this site too for a bit. his theory is: if you have to use a pill to get off another pill, there is nothing wrong with it in my eyes. Opiates are unreal to come off of, I was in my 18th day once of coming off, and I'm pretty fuckin tough, going to work and maintaining, finally I said, I  don't feel any better in my 18th day than my 3rd and went back to using opiates. Thought I would try again another time.
Your husband never wants to go through this another time. this is really an unreal deal. I admire him very much. so he should just keep on, then worry about the zanax when that comes. don't know much about zanax so I am no expert on it. never taken it. have taken all the drugs in the valium family. taking it now to get off the oxy.s   but getting off the vals before wasn't as hard as the opiates.  what i've heard is you can never die coming off the opiates w/d themselves. but the valium family you can die from the w/d due to seizures. in my drug career i have no doubt gone through this type of w/d and it was absolutely nothing compared to 400 mg a day plus every other opiate I could get.
Like I tell my "wife" this happens like a flick of a switch, one day you're sicker than **** and the next day. like a light switch, you're all of a sudden better. this is with the physical part of it. then you gotta start dealing with the psychological part, which is hard, but your husband is amazing,  is so determined, tough, I don't think this will be a problem for him.
for me the smoking pot is just a miracle in how it makes me feel better. to me your husband is once bitten twice shy, that he will never have to go through this again and you'll be closer than ever.  good luck!!!  that switch will be thrown. still having a hard time myself, but nothing compared to you, so I can't whine.
you will see the light!!  maybe Easter will be his turn around.

[jetsetgrl]

Thanks for chcking in. I had read about Xanax w/d- that sounds awful. I am glad that he is getting up and around. I hope that all is well- it's got to get better soon.

[mak17]

wait...sneezing? i had no idea about sneezing and all i do right now is sneeze.  my fiance has to be going crazy.  i did not know that was part of it.  i thought maybe i was allergic to being off of my vicodin. :)  
seriously...i have not been on here in a while... i finished my tapering and have been going through w/d for the past couple of days and have not really had the energy or focus to get on the computer.  today is a better day.  i have been thinking about you and your husband and cannot believe he has been going through this for 14 days...i cannot imagine how painful that is for both of you.
i can just tell you that i would not be able to do this very well without my fiance.  no way.  i am a head case.  crying over the craziest ****. seriousy. thought i was pretty low drama until right now.  i shower like 20 times a day and still feel dirty.  i do have a clonidine patch which makes me crazy sleepy and cuts the w/d symptoms down for sure.  i have tried to c/t before to no avail.
i understand the xanax deal also... the frustration and pain of w/d and coming off of opiates is crazy.  however, i have a friend who is now trying to wean off of the xanax (birds of a feather :)  ) ... anyway, she is having a harder time than i am .. i am not sure if it is becuase i have the patch but she is a disaster.  i am trying to convince her to go to the ER as well.  how is he now?  everyone reacts differently to everything.  so that is why you may not feel the effects he is feeling... and his system is struggling anyway.  
i just feel for you two so much and hope each day is better.

[raventwo]

Yes, we are both very tired still!! Yes, something has to give! This is ridiculous right??!! Actually, he was prescribed z's for awhile, and never took them, and built up scripts, then we started having them filled, and we both actually would take very low doses of them, and only once in awhile, then when it was time for the detox, he was glad he had them. But he stopped going to the dr. so the dr. doesn't know he is going through w/d's right now.  I have to say though, i was taking xanax as well, every night for sleep, but never on the weekends, and i haven't had any at all since he's been going through this, and i have been fine., I have had no problem with sleep, and have not had any w/d symptoms? weird, huh? but like i said, he was taking low doses of them, and i even lower.  Figures though, its backfired right in our faces! just figures.  I'm going to bed, thanks so much for posting, you guys really give us hope, and i know we will get through this, i know it just takes time, and as said before, i know that it took awhile to get to this point, it will take awhile to get back to normal.  I will continue to update you all, and let you know how he's doing, thanks for being our life line!!! (Ps: He is sneezing ALOT! over & over and over, with the sneezing!!)

[sterling_silver]

Did he take xanax before detoxing? Because he is crossing the line with the xanax now.
16 days is too long. Who prescribes him the xanax? Does doctor know he detoxed? It's one thing to read about the xanax withdrawal. It's a whole different deal going through it.Have you tried L-theanine for his anxiety and to help with sleep. If he keeps taking the xanax, his anxiety will get worse. And he will never be able to sleep without them. No one ever died from lack of sleep. When his body needs sleep. He will sleep.
Good luck.

[toxictome]

Glad to see you posting...you're still chugging along....man...somethings gotta give for this poor guy!!..and you! I'm happy to see thigns are lqqking up a lil' bit!

Hang in there!!!(you're probably getting tired of that line)...LOL

Be REALLY careful with the xanax...that stuff can be rough!! I also tapered off of that...a low dose..not fun!!  KEEP POSTING!!!

[raventwo]

Hey everyone! I'm sorry I haven't posted in a few days, I thought I might give you all a break from the stress known as US!!! Hope you all got some good rest! So, today is day 16??, i think? Sorry, losing track of the days, cause he still isn't feeling good!!! Actually I'm not going to lie, he seems to be definately better than before without a doubt, and just like you said above, his foolishness on REFUSING to take ANYTHING like the clonodine(?), but YEAH on the xanax, I believe and so does he, that he is now, going through or the reason for the past few days feeling absolutely horrid, is because of the xanax w/d's now!!!  SO UNFORTUNATELY I HAD to get some z's from my friend, because we sure can't get ahold of any pot! He was at his wits end, and i just couldn't handle it, and he was frustrated and angry as you all know, so i got the z's for him. they are a way lower dosage than his normal ones, they are .5's. I also am picking up a script for the regular z's tomorrow. I know, I know, I know, NOT GOOD, but I guess we'll just have to wein him down off the z's once he is feeling better. I have read ALOT about the c/t off of z's and I think from what i have read, it's dangerous to c/t off of them, am i right?  He was feeling terrible again today, but i FORCED him to get up, and drive me, & both my daughters to school, & me to an appt. My 14 yr old woke up waaayyyy late and she can't afford to miss anymore school, so we had to take her. But the drive was good for him. He stopped and got some immodium, and pepto because he is going through some diarrhea & upset stomach again. He also came home, and mowed the lawn, (or actually part of the lawn lol!) before he had to stop & take a break, he was sweating and felt like he was going to pass out!!!  Maybe the rls has subsided some, i can't really feel him moving around, up & down, the past few days. He said of course AGAIN, today that he is really trying hard, he is pushing through, and he will continue, but WHEN is it going to get easier???? WHEN is he going to feel better than he does??? Of course he has no energy at all, his sleeping is few and far between, the emotions! oh my! thats a whole other post!! lol! He is getting up on that treadmill i have to say, all day long though. which he is forcing himself to do, but he's doing it! I couldn't be prouder of him, i really couldn't. He really is being a trooper through all of this!!! Still skitzy but maybe not as bad???  Ok- just wanted to give my warm, & loving friends the latest update on our ROAD TO RECOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Much love to you all!! XXXOOOO  smooches!!!!!!!!!

[Flutterby111]

Good call checkin in Jet set....yes it's been a couple days...hope everythihng is ok....please let us know what's happening....we've been pulling for your hubby....

[jetsetgrl]

Hi There, I just got back from the gym and thought that I would check on you. How are you? How is he? I understand. I have been in wd many times. I think that the more times I do it- the worse it gets. This will be the last for me. No more freaking around with pills.

I still have insomnia- but I have had it since Jr High. I am now taking melantonin and "restful legs". You can buy both at the drugstore. I am not sure that this would help him now- it might once he feels better. I still have RLS too and that horrible creepy crawly feeling sometimes. It happened at work on Mon. I thought that I was going to go nuts. I took some clondine. It helped some.

Anyway- I just wanted to check on you. You are so good to him- I sure hope that he appreciates you. ~M

[topcat184]

Our hearts are with ya! Topcat's been there, (the ER,)  they'll fix him up. He's doing so good, keeping with the program and facing this thing, yeah, head on so to speak! We're all with you. Hope today is finding you some answers and some peace, and sleep.
hugs

[tammyk_40]

Its been 14 days? I think hes now going through xanax wd's. I said that would happen. He shouldnt feel this bad at 14 days from the opiates. PLEASE go to the ER. I know exactly how he feels!

[allaboutmary]

Yes , Please take him to the ER . They deal with this kinda thing all the time.  He has been suffering too long.  He needs some help and some good sleep.  I bet if he gets one good night of sleep he will feel like a whole new person.  Clonodine, Clonodine, Clonodine.   He really has been a trouper going through this, but it's time for some relief. (not pain killers)  I bet you could use a good nite sleep too.  Hugs,   Mary

[Flutterby111]

GO to the ER...they are way better equipped to help us then the Dr........they'll have clonidine.

[raventwo]

Sorry, its been a long night! he has had no sleep, well he said if he got an hour that would be pushing it! He is in tears, he is exhausted, but cant sleep. hes moving all over the place. He is skittzy feeling still, cant shake this horrible feeling at all. I am at a loss, he is at a loss, i am trying to get some pot, to calm him down, haing no luck i told him that he needs to go to the dr or er to get that clonopin? He said to day is worst he thinks then EVER!!  Idk, he is very frustrated, if he could just shake this skittzy feeling, i think he would have some hope! What do we do????? HELP!!

[tammyk_40]

Ive been sitting here waiting for you to post about your husbands progress. lol. I sure hope hes feeling much better today. I hope you both got out today, its beautiful weather, at least in the south.

[jim811]

Hi.. I used Exedrin PM for the first few weeks to help me sleep...averafed about 4-6 hours of rough sleep bu it was sleep...

Nick

[opi]

i like your attitude.....should talk ot my wife  ;)       ..it'll get there man,....

[raventwo]

You guys really put a smile on my face!! Right now it's what, 12:53am, and i can't sleep, cause he's really, really pissed off right now, because tonight is I think, one of the worst nights yet!!! he is miserable, and he certainely doesnt want to "HEAR" my voice at all, so i will be sleeping on the couch!! lol. he already warned me, his words, "i'm just warning you right now, to stay out of my way, and do not come near me, i am about ready to run my body right through this mother f**** at any sec, I'm just letting you know, stay clear"  SO-THINK I WILL TAKE HIS ADVICE, what do you all think??! Lol! its really not funny, but it kinda is!   Clonopine, right? I said to him the blood pressure meds, but we dont know. I think he will take the xanax because he had a script, or scripts for it, because he never really used it that much, but doc kept giving it to him, so now he has multiple ones, and i think he would rather NEVER go back to the dr. again, & just take what he has. Who knows, i dont know anything anymore. I thought it would be getting a little easier after what are we on, 14 days as of now???? Hell, i have lost count. I appreciate your kind warm words, it means alot to me. I tried to get some pot, which by the way, he was MORE THAN WILLING to smoke, but only connection i know, was having a hard time getting any for herself, so that was out. And he was very ready to go that route today, let me tell you!! VERY READY! Hopefully, today Sun. will be a MUCH BETTER BRIGHTER DAY! Oh, and he is 40, me 35. Kids are all still at home, but i am sleeping on the couch tonight, maybe i will finally get some rest!!! I will let you know tomorrow!!!! Love to all!!

[allaboutmary]

Hey you have been doing a great job. Don't be so tuff on yourself.   I'm ready to smack him myself, for not taking the Clonodine. lol   I can't believe he will take the xanax and not the Clonodine.  Anyway he should be feeling better real soon.  Hang in there.

[topcat184]

we're 50 some. haven't checked how old you are sorry. but for heaven's sakes, get yourself some marijuana. Hey girl, is there any way you can sleep in another room? I know with topcat and his wd or if we've been arguing about his (past) drug use, or if one of us is sick, I sleep in the kid's room, they're at college... topcat is really going through with this program now and getting off the oxy's, yes, I'm proud of him too)
you can't help but snap. this thing has been going on for 12 freakin' days for you, dealing with all you have to do, your kids, work, you're holding up well. don't beat yourself up.
we're praying for you and you are on our minds throughout the day. God bless you guys. good luck!

[Flutterby111]

Honey, you've been drug through hell and back too, you've been along for the ride.....not quite as much as he, but close....honey you are doing magnificant.  He knows it too.....I can't promise how much longer it'll take to fel better but you've come way too far to look back anyways, so just put one foot in front of the other.... have you gotten any books about PAWS or an NA book or anything else you can read together?  Another one posted this website and I'm listening to it now...it's amazing!!!  www.soundsleeping.com   PLEASE check it out....you can't be angry listening to this.....  keep going you two.  Just tell him I said he's doing great!  His body has taken a beating and it's trying to heal.....it takes time.  It's important to realize it took more than 13 days to develop this addiction, it's going to take more than 13 days to get rid of it.....and it hurts, emotionally and physically.  I've been there, still hurt in my heart.  Still crave, BUT I'm still clean.  5 1/2 weeks off of the Oxycodone.    Listen to Mikeinthesouth, I AGREE!!!  and BTW, my husband was cold and mean and truly didn't even offer any sympathy when I was sobbing and sweating through 3 towels a night, and burning fevers, and on the toilet for days, and trembling, and freezing cold, and so weak I couldn't talk, and scared to face the sunlight, and forced to muster up enough energy to make dinner for my family...and then guilt trip me for not making it to work, telling me I was going to lose my job when in all reality I wanted nothing more than to turn myself into in-patient drug treatment.....so you snapping at him a time or two?  PLEASE!!!!  I would've welcomed that.......  Prayer works...... I would've never said that before all of this.  But I'm saying it now.  Rest well, I pray you both will.

[Mikeinthesouth]

My fourteenth day I felt better birds chirping a lil less aggravating, morning smell was a lil sweeter, wind was a lil cooler and refreshing a lil more food tasted a bit better etc.