17 year old Oxy Problem.. please help!

hello guys, this is my first post so bear with me here. Im a 17 yeah old male that is about to start my senior year in high school. Last summer a new drug came through my town *Oxycontin* everyone loved it! but it was very expensive!! 40mg pill went for $25... 80mg went for $50!! i tried it a few times last summer but i got heavily into it this summer.. by 3 weeks into summer i was ABUSING (snorting) 40-80mg per day.. i felt horrible about myself, about what i was doing to others, what my family and girlfriend would think of me because yes, i pretty much kept this for EVERYONE, promised my Girlfriend i was NOT doing it.. i was lieing to everyone..

I eneded up going to Europe on July 14th.. As i said earlier before i went to Europe, i was abusing about everyday. Being in Europe (21 days) was a complete nightmare for the first week and a half!! the withdrawls are so horrible!! but believe it or not i just kept myself buzy and tried to fight through it.. couldnt sleep at all, i would find myself freezing cold but sweating.. it was horrible!!  Once i got back from Europe i felt reborn! i was finnaly myself again, i was talkative and happy without the drug. but things happend

about a week and a half after i got back i did it again with a couple buddies and everything went downhill from there.. I started abusing again.. I got into some trouble this past Sunday which was pretty severe.. I was not on Oxy, but i had done it the day before (saturday). My parents ended up drug testing me for "informational" purposes and yes, OXY came up positive. I ofcourse lied about it saying im not doing it and what not.. but because of the trouble i was homebound and could not leave the house, the withdrawls were horrible and i began telling myself living is not worth it anymore..

Once i began feeling this I had to tell my parents what i got into and what i was doing!! I just sat them down and told them "mom, dad, i have a SEVERE problem and i AM addicted to a substance!!" im not one to lie, i was SEVERLY ADDICTED and in search of help.. but i just didnt know how to reach out =(


Im telling you all this story because the withdrawl (withdrawal) symptoms im going though are unbelieveable right now!! every single joint/bone in my body hurts!! i cant sleep!! zero energy!! and sitting here talking to some people that understand me and what im going through is just a comforting feeling..

thanks to all you who lent an ear and listened out to me and what i had to say!

PLEASE! feel free to post comments and help me through this! thanks so much guys!!

~Ryan

[joangy]

This is a great place for you to be- almost everyone on here has been through the withdrawals!

I don't have any specific information about snorting oxys but if  you post a question on the substance abuse forum telling your story there will be many people who have done or are doing the same thing.

You know you can work thru these withdrawals... you did it while in Europe and now you have your family behind you to support you thru it!

Good luck- you are in the right place for advice.

[twolve]

hey man i have basically the exact same story as you i am just a little older. I am 22 years old and play baseball in college. I missed last year because of elbow surgery and was on vicodin ES for a while and then once the scripts were done I got into oxys. I was snorting 40 mgs a day before i knew it. then this summer i didnt have one for a day and it was hell. i ended up getting one that night and told myself that would be it for me, i couldnt live my life dependent on something so expensive and bad for my health..It has been almost 7 weeks since I quit and I feel so much better. I have been working out every day and that has been the biggest help ever. i would really suggest you exercise, i know you said how bad your pain was and i was there too believe me, but just go out for a walk or something. whats happening is that your endorphins were aided by the pills and are sort of shut off right now in your brain. exercising will release these endorphins and its almost like a natural high..you can do this man..and believe it or not you are not in as deep as you think you are..you can do this on your own..you dont need treatment or other pills..if you mentally cant handle it than maybe u need to go a detox center or something but since i was using exactly like you were i know you can do it just like i did..i will be here for anything you need man..just hang in there.

[liscamdave]

Welcome. You will find this place to be of tremendous help and support. So stick with us.

Now, you are a baby Ryan, and i don't mean that in a mean way. I just mean you have your whole life ahead of you. Please don't go down this road. You have time to get out now before it ruins your life like it has so many of ours.

Withdrawals are tuff, but you can get through this. YOu say you have done it before. Oxy was my Drug of choice too, but I never snorted. But I can tell you this, at the height of my addiction, I took about 20 80s in one day. Usually I took about 12-15 80s a day. And I paid for each and every one. So you do the math. I am broke now. But clean. Please..you need help. Let me know what i can do to to help..

Lisa

[SANDIANZ]

Hey,

Everyones wD are different, but they all stink.  The worst for mete was the zero enery but the legs were really bad.  Its day 10 now3 and I feel like a new person.  If it didn't get better, we would all still be usingl and you can see we are not .  at leasert  for today.  thats all we have.  hang inthere for 24 hrs. u can do anything for 24 hrs.  then let tomorrow take careof itself ..  Believe cuz we do .  

Luv and hugs

sandy

ps.  My habbit is older than youl   Using ipiates 25 ys.  BUT NOT TODAY

[Ryan181]

thank you all so much for listening and understanding!!

Twolve--

i too am i baseball player!! varsity high school ball and i feel im at the point now where i have torn my body down to the extreme that i dont believe i can go back..

Lisa--

i reach out for you also, i know what it is life going face to face with your dealer and dropping so much money and feeling horrible about it.. but once the drug kicks in you just dont care.. its honestly instanious relief!


i was very surprized on how understanding my parents are being!! although my mom is calling my doctor and i have to go see him to get a "check up".. im kinda scared about this.. any one know what will happen? =(

[road2recovery]

Welcome, and thanks for sharing....There are many people that lurk and you probably just helped one out..
I know being honest had to be so tough, BUT didn't it feel better to get the monkey off of your back??  How long have you been in w/d's this time??
Have your parents looked into any kind of aftercare for you?
Sorry so many questions, but i also have a daughter who just got out of rehab.., and i am also in recovery for opiates.....
What OTC meds have you tried for relief of your symtoms (symptoms)?
Stay Strong, you have your whole life ahead of you!
god bless you
r2r

[Ryan181]

so true! being honest is the hardest thing in the world! but once it gets done, it feels so good that you have your family behind you!
my W/D has been since this past saturday (5 days now)
My mom is on the phone with my MD right now.. im honestly really scared about whats going to happen.. i always think the worst **needles, x-ray, cat-scan, blood**
i know that those things may be over the top but im very scared and im 17 =(
the only OTC i have been taking is basically ibuprofen.. dosent help AT ALL fyi..

good luck to you and your daughter!!
hope i can be you 2 one day soon

[twolve]

No Man you can go back..Let me tell you my situation..I missed all of last year with his elbow thing and was a waste of life..didnt exercise just blew oxys..gf didnt know..the only thing i was good for was that i did maintain a 4.0 gpa..but i have been in such good shape my whole life and i was beginning to get sort of soft..when i quit the oxys i was 185 lbs and my stomach and abs and pecks were nowhere to be found..7 weeks later i am 200 lbs with half the body fat i had before..abs are back..everyone i see keeps saying OMG how did you get in such good shape..i traded my oxy addiction for essentially an obsession with working out and eating well and looking good again..dont even tell me that your 17 year old body cant handle getting back in shape..when i was 17 i felt like i could do absolutely anything..listen to what liscam said..20 80's in a day and now? CLEAN..if she can do that then you know you can quit your 40 mg per day snorting phase..and it sounds like you want to quit and that is an absolute MUST.

[Ryan181]

your awesome man! haha i relate to you so much!!
girlfriend is in the dark about it, missing sports, losing your physical physique...
its tough man it really is, but you need to keep going because there is always a light at the end of tunnels and im just still trying to reach it..

did you ever go to you Doc for your problem? if so, what did you have to do?

thanks!!

[GoingToMakeIt]

Welcome to the forum! As you can see, this is a great place for help and support.
You will live through this. You have to stay clean for awhile before things start looking good again. It is hard to trust all of us at face value but, we have been there. I assure you that going down that road of addiction is not where you want to go. At first it may seem OK but it soon gets where the pills rule your life. Everything revolves around them and nothing or no one matters more than the pills.

[empathy323]

Don't be scared of the doctor.  It is really great that you have been honest with your parents and that you are able to see a doctor and have it paid for.  There is no need to worry really.  Your parents just want to make sure your overall health is ok.  So you may have to have blood drawn it's no big deal compared to everything else you have been through.  On top of that your doctor can offer additional assistance with symptoms if it is needed.  You will find that your relationship with your parents will be much stronger in the end because of this.  Going through w/d is tough on the mind so it's probably making you worry more about the doctor than you need to.  Trust me it's a good thing and you will have the peace of mind of knowing that you are ok and healthy.  After all of this and getting things out in the open you will be able to work on being an active young man again, finishing school, playing sports, and going to college.  You will have the benefit of learning about the dangers of addiction at a young age too and you won't have to repeat this mistake when you are older and have even more to lose.  

You are doing great, keep strong.

[twolve]

No man I didn't go to the doctor or do anything. I was on my own and that is how i wanted it. I told myself if I couldn't do it on my own I would tell my parents and girlfriend, but I sort of felt like "You got yourself into this mess, now get yourself out". And I did. I'm telling you once I made up my mind that I wanted to quit, things got so much easier. You cant quit because you ran out of pills bc eventually they will be there again. you cant quit because someone else wants you to either. I quit mostly because i love my family and girlfriend and they dont deserve what i was doing, and also because i know i have a ton of goals in my life and that they werent gonna happen if i was wasting all my time and money blowing pills..i literally felt like i might as well snort a 50 dollar bill up my nose..because thats exactly what we were doing..anyway when you get clean you start appreciating everything life has to offer..i will never go back..and some people say yeah yeah or that you have to keep your guard up..and i agree with that..but when i say im not going back, i mean it.

[KirstenHere]

Hi Ryan!

I feel for you so much! I know what it's like to be in your shoes...I'm on day 3 right now, so please trust this, you are NOT alone in this. The withdrawls are for sure horrible.

I found something great at Rite-aid (which is a drug store) it's for RLS. I slept from 2am to 11am this morning...only waking up a few times to take another pill for the rls. They disolve under your tongue and kinda taste like chalk...but I"m telling you, I SLEPT! I would really like to sleep for the next 4 days, but that is not possible.

You are so young and you can kick this thing head on and look forward to a very happy and healthy life.

I'm 40 years old and actually have 3 kids that are older than you...ages 18, 20, and 22. I know you can do this!

This is what happens if you don't kick this stupid thing. You want more and more because your body needs it. Before you know it you're stealing it, stealing money, stealing things to sell...it's a DEAD END street...it's goes nowhere. I've been an addict off and on for many many years now. And it always ends up like this "OH, I can take just ONE...to make my back feel better, or my legs, etc etc." TRUST ME ON THIS ONE, you can NEVER EVER take just one. It never works out that way. You are an addict and will be the rest of your life. You are young and can stop this now. Please please, stick with it.

I don' tmean to scare you with what I"m telling you (or maybe I am) but 2 good friends of mine have died because of this addiction. Starts out small, but grows to be huge. They ended up main lining it (shooting up) and it took their lives because they just couldn't get enough. That's what ends up happening after awhile. I never did main line, because I was too scared..but I knew it was only a matter of time. When I would go to my dealers house, I would be so jealous because they would be getting off within seconds...while I had to wait 1/2 hour for mine to kick in. So I knew it was just a matter of time before I asked someone to put a needle in my arm.

So please, please, please, stop while you still have a chance to stop. I'm begging YOU! You have parents that are supporting you. Find that to be a blessing, because some people have NO ONE out there to help them.

PM me anytime...like I said, I'm with you, I'm on day 3 and it sure is hell. But WE can get through this. :-)

[Ryan181]

empathy--

i appreciate your words of comfort.. but you say i have to get blood drawn.. the scary thing with that is that i havent eaten really muvh of anything the past 3 days because i simply have no appetite.. and i got blood drawn once before when i had mono and i too hadent eatan in sometime and i passed out while getting blood drawn.. something scary to think about that i dont want to re-live.

twolve--

it honestly is snorting a 50 dollar bill you are absolutly right! i would like nothing more than to do this myown because i know i can! i dont need a detox, i dont need treatment, all i need is a stong mindset like i have, and my family behind me making sure i comtinue. just like i did it last time i think i will be ok... but my mom dosent think so..

thanks to all of you again!!
amazing how complete strangers make you feel so great!
=)

[Kova]

oxy withdrawal really ***** but at least it doesn't last that long.  you should be good to go in a week to 10 days.

[Ryan181]

that is amazing!
Me and you both are going through this TOGETHER and i honestly want you to stay with me!!
When i would go to meet up with my dealer i was as well very jelous! when he pulled out a ziploc baggie filled up half was with 80's i honeslty felt like that would be heaven.
looking back on that.. that honestly would have been hell!!
I support you so much for quitting and honestly like you said, PM anytime to talk and im always here doing and going through everything your are!!
And about the RLS medicine.. i dont think MORE pills would go too well with my mom you know? she would just probly think i would abuse those.. sadly but understandable?

thanks so much!
PM anytime!!
=)

[empathy323]

Take a deep breathe and don't get all worked up about it.  You are a tough young guy and it's just blood work.  If you have to have it you'll be ok.  Try not to get too worked up it will just make it worse.  Think of it this way it's out of your hands and it is what it is right?

As for doing things on your own try to look at the fact that you got yourself into this.  Your thinking was a bit off right?  You are 17 and it sounds like you have a lot of support. You are VERY fortunate to have a loving family and all the support that comes with it.  I think even twolve would have to agree with the fact that you are doing a great thing by being honest with your family.  You should take their advice and let them help you.  I am much older now but when I was 16-17 I got into some trouble.  My parents made me go to a treatment facility for adolescents and it made me really angry.  I didn't think I needed to go and I did not think it would help me.  I wasn't addicted at the time but at the rate I was going it would not have been long before I was.  As it turned out it was one of the greatest experiences of my life.  I will never forget it. I learned a lot about people and myself and had a great time on top of it too.

I am not saying you will have to go anywhere but what I am saying is it might be a good idea to let the people in your life who love you and have a little more life experience guide you.  Trust that the things they do are because they care and for your benefit even if it makes you mad at the time or if you disagree.  Let go of worrying about all of these things and try to just take care of yourself and be 17.

[Ryan181]

I know i have said thank you so many times but it turly unbelievable the help i have been getting here!

my mom is saying that if i just go to counseling it will be just a little band-aid over the problem and i will relapse.. i told her that she can do random drug tests on me, as long as they stay clean, i guess im doing alright.. if it comes up dirty (which it WILL NOT!!) than we will talk about more severe treatment options..

[Rolyat30]

Wow!! you are so strong and so young!! I feel compelled to give you encouragement and share a little of my story...  I have been doing 10 80's, so 800 mg's a day along with a cocktail of herion and meth. I didn't start out with a dose large enough to kill a horse...there was once a time where half an 80 would have me sky high.  TRUST ME  that doesn't last long... Not only do the people you do the drug with, but also those you buy from, don't give a **** about you... No matter how long you've known them and how close to your boys you are.
It just kills your soul, I don't know how else and how much I can stress that. I have been a highly functioning addict for 7 years, until oxy.  Never before did I steal for a high, never before would I dgrade my body and self respect for a high.  Once Oc took hold, I didn't think twice about it....
I don't know how open you are to talking to a doctor about what your going through, but they can give you stuff to help with w/d...your joints hurt and especially your back becuase beans actually compact your spinal cord.  there are a ton of non-narcotic pain meds to help, and there is a drug called clonidene (spellings wrong) and that helps with the shivers goose bumbs and crawling under your skin...
I actually am just spending my first few days back at home after going to a treatment center called Schick Shadel... Perhaps you have heard of it?  I have been clean 20 days and still feel the w/d... high anxiety, getting the stretchies at night, NO ENERGY.  The lack of energy is what is really killing me.  If your open to suppliments, amino acids really hlelp that, GABA is good for getting the pleasure center in our back to feeling pleasure, you should get some vitamin C and B12....fish oil as well helps.  
You show amazing strength and wisdom...  After you get past the physical, its all mental baby.  Yesterday was my first full day out of treatment and there were times that I was convinced I wouldn't make it through the hour with out doing my old BS of jacking money, pawning something, degrading my body to get high.... But I made it. You have to take it a second at a time, and even if being strong for yourself isn't a good enogh reason, find the reason in something.Your girl, parents, dog, whatever. And you don't ever feel anything but so so proud and strong for doing this!    You desever a life and you deserve to be well.... Not sure how much you know about addiction, but also be cautious about trading addictions... don't take xanies so they help the withdrawls, don't have a drink or smoke a joint to sleep.... your receptors are trying to put themselves back to sleep from the drugs and asleep is where they need to sleep...you can do this!! and be open, with EVERYONE, you may find family will support you more than you think...
One last thing. promise... changing your number and getting rid of the bad ones is a life saver.  Good luck, i know you can do this lovey!

[LONESOME]

Hey Ryan, Thanks so much for sharing your story I really witch I had a son like you really my son is about your age he is 17 1/2 a little over and this year is his senior year as well I know he is into pills snorting too xanax that I know of and marijuana we know but he dosen't want to addmit and get help he is horrible we are so damage by his actions he treats us like **** to the point that by the age of 18 I want him out of my house that is in 4 months, I know is really bad but that is how I feel about him.
You are doing the right thing by telling your parents because hun at the end of the day we are the only ppl that will pick you up no your friends, my son thinks the other way around his frieds are everything for him but there never there to pick him up from trouble.
I wish you the best please don't go back to the drugs is really really hard life to live.

[Ryan181]

Rolyat--

wow.. you are truly inspirational!!
OC truly does make you Lie, Cheat, and Steal...
i was in need such bad of money sometimes that i would trade in video games to gamestop to get the few extra dollas to pick up another 80...
it takes over you life as well as your soul..
I truly thought the devil was living inside of me and i didnt realize it untill im clean..

I have a doctor apointment at i think 2 oclock.. about 3 hours.
thanks to you all for staying with me and lending an ear!!

LONESOME--

trust me, i know how it feels to leave your parents in the dark. to be completly honest with you, as wrong as it sounds, you need to LOCK HIM DOWN! make him stay IN the house, take his phone away, no friends over, no nothing!! he WILL break down after about 3 days (when i did) and also what helps.. GIVE HIM A DRUG TEST!!! if it werent for that, i would not have told my parents what i was doing.. i know it sounds over the top to do but trust me, he will love and respect you guys so much more once he realizes all you are trying to do is HELP, not HURT!! make it clear you love him very much, sit him down and talk with him calmly.. if he gets the wave that you are being upset and defensive he will only rebel more, i know this trust me!!

just try to understand, as hard as it may be, just try...
and like i said.. DRUGTEST helps soooooo much!!
keep the love, and he will soo respect.. i promise you

thanks guys!!

[KirstenHere]

I sent you a message :-)

[empathy323]

What state are you in it must be 3 hours earlier there it's 2 where I am?  Anyway good luck at your Doctors apt. this afternoon and please let us know how it goes.  

[Ryan181]

Kristen--

I replied =)

Empathy--

California =)

[Ryan181]

well.. DR appt is comming up before i know it and im scared as hell!! i have no idea whats going to happen to me! =(

any one know whats going to happen??

wish me luck =/

[dbi77]

Hi

[jamielynn777]

get help now have your parents take you to an addiction specialist, even if you have to use untill the appt. you are too young honey i started at 23 and am now 31 year old female 9 days off a 180mg a day snorting oxycodone.......anyways w-d are hell but there are masking agents and drugs they use to help bring you through it alot more comfortably. so hope fully an addiction specialist is the route but dont be knived ointo going on suboxone or meathadone maintnance drugs THEY ARE 10 worse withdrawl (withdrawal).......if you parents wont take you have them do some research on opiate wdrawl as it cosidered to be inhumane without proper meds to bring you ease,,,,,if they just cant understand and be commpastionate about it than expect 3-4 days of hell hot cold sweats aches restless legs this will pass in 3-4 days any benzos valuim xanax clonapin will be helpfull if can be obtained, you may need to take benadryl to sleep if you don;t have access to these DAy 4-8or 9 expect little to no sleep wich is hard if you can get alittle green that will help take your mind off it. take lots of hot baths try and sweat that **** out drink tons of water
your withdrawl (withdrawal) may be easyer than mine because you dont have the raging habit and the 8 year habit you might be finr by day 5 or 6 ill keep you in my prayers reading the bible helps i know your 17 so that probly sounds pretty lame but when you feel you just cant handle it another min give it a last ditch effort, i have true comppasion for you cause i see my self back when i was younger and wish some one could have guide me onto the right path who knows i might be a doctor right now instead of a recoverying addict
PS lots of baths and listening to uplifting easy positive music on the ipod alone with your eyes shut have passed many hours for me. sorry for t.m.i hope it helps also i consider my withdrawl (withdrawal) a real bad flu bad news no meds help good news its not deadly convince yourself of that and it helps alot w cravings

[lowkee]

hey this is Heather i know what goin on you feel like u cant live without the drug thank of people when you crush it and how you and your family will suffer you need a little tough love stop and you do have somthing to live for yourself and the future to come mabye grils but soon mabye a daddy to a little one that want sto up to you every one i know is on some kind of pill and they you look when there on them i want to smack but if you really want help you gona have to help yourself and just quit why quit then come right back and do the same thing knowing it gona kill you before you kill yourself and by the the way that a sin so thank long and hard if you like some more tough love and debat ***@****

[Minimarissa]

I know exactly what you are going through, i am a junior in highschool.. Head cheerleader, i was so popular, like the type in moives...but this summer, alot of my friend had blues ( 30 mg ). I did a half of one and felt great and it lasted me all night. I started just buying them once a month, then it became every weekend, and soon everyday. I was doing up to 2 pills a day and stopped getting my period because i was doing them so much., keep in mind i am 4'11 and about 98 pounds( so thats alot on my body ). I would do when in the morning before i went to school, and then one in the highschool bathroom , before my last period , then afterschool go get more. I started taking money out of my savings account everyday, It was getting bad. I started stealing my dads percocets so that i didnt go through withdrawls when i couldnt " find ".  I felt terrible, but at the same time i didnt care. I lied to everyone about how bad i had got, and ditched my friends to go hangout with drugdealers who had the pills, so that i would get hooked up.. Recently my mom found one of my blues one day when she was cleaning my room, and i was at school, and was so devistated.. I had to quit cold turkey , good thing because it was getting so out of control i probably would have really hurt my body. I got so dopesick. , which was so painful , i felt like i was dying and couldnt eat or sleep or go to school for about a week or two. Full blown addict at 16?. Terrible i know. I am taking everyday one step at a time. Its still hard not buying one when there around, but i have been clean about a month now and hoping i can keep up the good work.