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All the best, Robyn.
Again thanks to you and everyone else.
Ms. Esha
pepsi4: hey, you don't owe us a thing! Quit, splurge, taper, or relapse -- we're here for you (and for a small fee, we'll be THERE for you). Whether it feels like it or not, the giving and getting of support is an even exchange.
I agree that, with guests decending upon you, now would be a terrible time to go cold turkey. 'Fact is, you'd never make it through the weekend. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to act emotionally "up" and play the good host when you're dying by inches inside. You need to detox when and where you can feel free to act just like you feel. As for the Valium, it's just a suggestion. You should always do what you decide is best for you. Enjoy your guests. We'll be around.
Thomas
The truth of the matter is the baby physically will be normal other than addiction the opiates. The sad truth is will the knowledge of that be enough for this woman to stay clean? I suggest to you not! (knowing from being an addict myself). The fact that she will lose her child to family services if the baby is born with an active addiction may just be enough persuasion to keep her clean. For her and her babies sake I hope it is enough to keep her clean.
First of all - Jesus Christ, you both are such lechers...I'm SO totally offended by your comments...(but, uh - listen, guys, will let you know when I go on my valium/ambien binge...)heh-heh. As for you Thomas, how the hell did you know I attended Sex Addiction Anoymonous?...smile.
Seriously, Thomas, I read your previous posts (It may have been Golden, but I'm not sure), about getting up during the night in your sleep and raiding the fridge. It made me remember experiences very much the same. When I was younger, and would go out and drink with friends, after I came home and went to bed, I can remember so many nights standing in front of the refrigerator sucking down a coke. Also, when I was abusing Nyquil, many moons ago, I would get up in the middle of the night, half asleep, and just INHALE Little Debbie Swiss Rolls. Always after these binges, I would wake up with a really funky, "metallic" taste in my mouth. Any insights to this? Was it due to low blood sugar, or what? I never experienced this anymore, even when I was drinking several shots of Jack Daniels a night just to go to sleep. I've wondered a lot about this.
Well, Goodnite to both of my perverted friends, whom I love so dearly. I've got to go back to work full time next week so probably won't have as much time to post, but if ya need me e-mail me anytime @ ***@****. Love you guys, Lisabet
be safe
linda
Blessings to you
Elizabeth
I will dhare in private what I did (not knowing I was pregnant) and my baby ended up being a gifted child by the grace of God. She is fine and is now a bratty 12 year old who thinks she IS GOD!!
I do have to offer another note of caution - if you can avoid it, do not take any pain medicine after you give birth (at least not after you leave the hospital). I thought that I could handle it, but I'm back on vicodin again and am in the middle of trying to get off of it - AGAIN! People always say that one is too many, and a thousand isn't enough and it is so true. Once you are an addict, chances are you will never be able to take pain medicines again responsibly. If I could turn back time I never would've accepted the perscription after I left the hospital, because now thinking about quitting while caring for a newborn is pretty overwhelming. Hopefully it won't be that bad this time because I've only been taking them for a few weeks, but I really wish I had listened to that little voice in my head that was telling me I was making a mistake as I got that prescription filled.
I hope you can get through it and quit so that you give yourself and your baby a chance for a happy and healthy life. Believe me, there is nothing scarier than being faced with losing your baby, especially when you know that it could've been avoided. It will be very hard, but it will be so worth it. If I could do it, I know you can too! Recognizing that you have a problem is the first step, and you've already done that so you're part of the way there! Ask for and accept whatever help you need, nobody will think badly of you for trying to do what is best for you and your baby. I'll be thinking of you, and am always here if you need support.
I was never saying that Child services wouldn't take a baby away if a mother is an addict-obviously, that would be part of the equation. DUH!
BUT....why bring it up?....I'm not PRO-scaring people. That's all. Chill out.
Amen etc...
So, what is YOUR game plan at this time? I think you said you wanted off vikes again, but felt w/ a newborn, it would be next to imposible. Perhaps you're right, since I recall getting little sleep those first weeks or months...But since no one can sleep while they're in W/D's, anyway, maybe we should rethink your strategy!!! LOL
Just know that whatever you want to do--I hope you keep posting--if for no other reason than you'll meet a lot of caring people here who will love you unconditionally and make no judgments. We are addicts who make no pretenses and realize we're none better than the other.
So take care and keep in touch! Peace, Peaz
I haven't come up with a game plan yet because I'm so scared and unsure of what will happen in regards to withdrawl. I have two other little girls, 18 months and five years, and I know how hard it is to take care of them while going through withdrawl. Of course, it's not exactly easy being an addict and a good mom either. The worst part for me has always been the malaise - sometimes even getting off the couch to get one of my girls a snack or change a diaper seems impossible. Also, another big obstacle for me is that I have three refills of vicodin left, and I know myself too well to think that I'll be able to just let them sit there at the pharmacy. I read on this site about people who can actually quit with painkillers still in the house and I soooo wish I was able to do that. I have never even been able to taper, I've always had to go CT. The first time I did it I was in rehab and they loaded me up with valium for a week so that it would make the withdrawls easier. This last time I was pregnant, so I couldn't take anything at all. It wasn't fun, but it wasn't too bad because I wasn't taking nearly as much as I was the first time. I am still dumbfounded and disappointed in myself that I let it get to this point (about 8-10 a day on and off for the past three weeks). I know I need to get over that and deal with it now or it will only get harder. I am hoping that with the help and support of the people in this forum I'll be able to do it for good this time. My first step is to come clean with my husband so that I can get his help.
Also, do you (or anyone) have any suggestions as to what is a good alternative to opiates for tension headaches? Migraine medicines don't work because they aren't migraines, but more like really bad chronic (almost every day) headaches. I appreciate any and all advice!
Yes Jerry2-enough already!...of the perco-pausal moments (substitute perco for vico...etc...).
You have been very helpful in my recovery 'afriend', its been very amusing-a humorous distraction. Now, you stay away from the pills because they tend to bring out the 'bitchiness' in you- something i'm sure God would not approve of.
Good luck to all and I hope the rainbow lasts forever Jerry2.
There is hope for you and your baby.....
With three kids, detox will be rough, but nothing is impossible. It sounds like you're about to tell your husband, and maybe he can get a couple days off work during your worst w/d days, and the two of you could handle things, I bet. (heavy on the help from HIM LOL) Because, like you say, an addict mom isn't all that terrific, either, and one has to keep the long-trem outcome in mind. Believe me, your kids can live through 4-5 days of "space Mom". God, it IS so hard to make yourself move, though... We have a lot of good, caring, and knowledgable people here who will offer every bit of help that we possibly can.
As for the headaches, when I get stressed-out my neck and shoulders knot up in a big way, and I even wake up w/ a headache...What a way to start your day. The best, long-lasting relief I get is from an adjustment from my chiropractor. Sometimes I may have to go twice. And sometimes I feel "beat up" after I've been there, but the outcome is worthwhile. But that's what I have to offer as a "non-narcotic" pain reliever.
I place detoxing w/ a stash on hand in the same realm w / catching the Easter Bunny........LOL AIN'T gonna happen!!! When you decide to go for it, clean the **** out of your house, and make sure all refills are gone, expired, or otherwise unattainable FOR GOOD. Whoever said they'd go diving in the commode to retrieve the swirling pills made me chuckle......What the **** am I laughing at???? I'd do the SAME thing!!! LOL Keep writing--Peaz
Pray for yourself GO! RUN!...to the Church of Saint Opiate
I have a suggestion...Lithium.
Peace
Kilo
Anyhooooo...I appreciated what your saying. I will not continue this sillyness. I just get sick of that "I'll pray for you....trust God"...**** that some peeps spew out. Anyway May the Almighty Lord of L-Tyrosone and Saints of Clonodine be with you. Amen
kILO
Yes if your doctor approves you can continue taking them while pregnant. They know how to deal with this. 50% of babies are born with some addiction. the doctors will treat and monitor the baby after birth. The placenta protects the baby for the most part. It is rare that there are any serious complications.. and that is usually with harder street drugs like heroin and cocaine or even methodone.
Shawt-- You need to get into a treatment program for preganant woman ASAP... NO you cannot go cold turkey but I would not go the methodone route either.. Babies with methodone addiction is not a great thing. Find a treatment facility that you can go to to medically detox you safely..
What I am trying to say is that I have tried everything else and the pain medication works for me. No side affects. What can I say to my doctor on tuesday that will convince her. I have ALL of my records of knee surgerys and knee replacement.
I know you are worried.. I would be too.. However.. you being in pain will put much more stress on the baby than the pills will. And stopping the pills will put too much stress on the baby. Trust your doctor and stay at a low dose.. You are not an addict. You are a dependent person that needs pills for better quality of life. Free from pain.
If you need to talk.. my email is in my profile.. just click on my screen name its blue
Good LUck!
i have't went to the Dr. yet but i'm about 4 wks. I have heard its bad for the baby to go cold turkey. HELP want should i do. I'm going to go to the Dr.and ask him but i just wanted to find out what other people have done about this problem. Thank you!!