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Thanks again.
Nauty...............the opinions expressed by nauty do not reflect the the members of the board or med help.
I'm not asking for any compasion. I realize that I messed up. Addiction is a nasty thing. It causes us to become people that we aren't. We become the addiction. I'm slightly curious why you're on the addiciton forum. But for whatever reason, people that come to this forum for help certainly do not need people making them feel bad for being here and pushing them back towards the addiction that they are trying to get help for. That may not have been your intention. But it's important to understand how powerful the words we type are.
As for my situation. Part of me knew it was a matter of time before I got caught. But in the moment, all I needed was "just one more Adderall (adderrall), and then I will stop". Addiction has to stuck in the moment, not caring about anything beyond that. And however sick it sounds, the mentality of "I'll be able to think about getting off of this drug once I have a little more of this drug" is all too common. Of course it's a downward spiral.
I'm just not sure legally what to do. Obviously, I plan on telling my mother the truth. In that moment, I had to get my head around what she was telling me. My main concern right now is legally.
Do I turn myself in with no warrant for my arrest? I think it would look better in the long run. Especially since I'm able to say "I'm not longer on this drug, I messed up, what do I do to make it right legally?" But at the same time, most legal advice says "don't admit anything".
Does anyone else have any thoughts/advice?
And lonotee, for someone who doesn't want to sound incompassionate, I gotta say, you sure do sound
incompassionate! We're addicts. We lie. We are not in our right minds. I give the girl props for trying to straighten out her life.
carrie
(it's always funny trying to adress people by their screen name. "It's nice to meet you another fine mess" ... it just makes me smile)
It's certainly only because my luck ran out that I'm clean. But it's something that i've wanted for quite a while now. It's just not easy to do in those moments where you feel like **** and another pill would make you feel better. I got to the point where I thought "normal" didn't exist outside of Adderall (adderrall). I thought that I'd never feel happy being clean after having been on Adderall (adderrall). I thought that "clean" wouldn't feel like it used to feel before Adderall (adderrall). The wonderful thing is that it does.
It feels better than Adderall (adderrall) ever did.
Thanks again for the encouraging comments.
No worries about the comment. :-)
I realize that sometimes things come out the wrong way.
Tammy, do you think anything bad could come of me talking to the sherriff's office?? He's going to ask me questions that i'm not sure how to answer. "Did you do this?" and "Did you do that?"
Should I possibly talk to an attorney first? Even if the attorney is in Tennessee?
Carrie, thanks for the bondsmen advice. I'll have to try that.
I wonder if there's a public service to find out that info. That's so much of it. Just knowing where I stand legally.
I'm glad you're here then. :-)
Thanks again for your advice. Where is a warrant bureau?
How would I get ahold of one? Is that at a state level?
Amanda, I hope that you get through this without serious consequences, and that its soon behind you. Hard lessons, huh?
1) stop passing fake scripts..if this is your wake up call and nothing happens then you are one lucky cat;
2) Don't call to turn yourself in!!! No news is good news;
3) sounds to me like its an investigation at this point...if its gonna sleep let it sleep.
Did the sherrif leave any instructions with Mom?
Contact an attorney and have him find out the specifics of the accusation/potential charges. Whatever you do, don't just turn yourself in.
To be honest, you don't know what the situation is yet. So you really can't make an objective, sane decision. There's a BIG difference between being investigated for prescription fraud and being found guilty of it. Also, DON'T in a fit of self remorse or "twelve stepper honesty" throw yourself on the mercy of the court (unless the attorney advises it!)
The attorney can tell you the quality of the evidence they have (as bad as you think it is, it might not be that bad).
If you can't afford an attorney, then check into Legal Aid society.
I'll give you this advice to;
If you aren't going to NA meetings, start gonig right now.
First, it would be good for you in terms of support.
2nd: NA folks can be GREAT with this kind of situation. Don't be surprised if you're offered concrete help.
3rd: Solid clean time backed by regularly attended NA meetings will look great before a judge if it goes that far. Don't worry about it being to late, this kind of thing can and can be made to drag on for many months. Heck, I'd suggest start volunteering at the local shelter, anything to show what a good human being you've become (courts recognize actions, they don't see the inner change all that well without them).
Congratulations on your sobriety. As for lonotes comment, I know she meant it not to be harmful and you are right not to judge her for it - we've all done bad things surrounding drugs and yet are always amazed at what lengths other addicts will go to. hang on - keep coming back and email me!!
Nauty.............
I think I can offer you some pretty good advice. I am a first year law student, and have spent countless hours observing my uncle who is a judge in a metropolitan city drug court.
1. If neccesary, you must confront this issue as soon as possible. It will score you points with the District Attorney. Not so much the police, but you will not be saying a word to them. You cannot live your life with this hanging over you.
2. So contact a lawyer in Florida that specializes in prescription drug cases. There should be many to choose from, Florida is the nexus of prescription drug abuse and fraud in the United States.
3. Tell your lawyer EVERYTHING. From start to finish, every single time your forged a script. Do not just pretend it is a one time thing. He cannot tell anyone anything you say to him, and it is essential to creating a strong case. Any lack of knowledge on his or her part is a weakness in your case.
4. Have this lawyer contact the Sheriff or police representative to determine the status of the issue. Whether a warrent has been granted, etc. Your lawyer will be able to determine when and if you will have to surrender yourself and be officially charged.
5. You can probably see the pattern growing, but if not....LAWYER SPEAKS, YOU DON'T. Nothing you can say will help your case. You will more than likely end out taking a plea, and your lawyer will negotiate that with the District Attorney. The prosecutor(DA) may want to interview you, but your lawyer will be able to prep you for that and will be by your side during any questioning. And remember, you can always chose to stop answering questions whenever you feel like it. Also, the judge will have a few words for you after the plea agreement is read. In your case, I don't think it will be much to worry about since the Adderall (adderrall) was prescribed to you orginally for a documented condition. Probably just tell you to keep it together, and figure out a treatment that will not lead to any similar events.
So what you are looking at is a 3rd degree felony. Regardless of whether you recieved the drugs or only attempted to, the charge is the same. It carries a maximum penalty of 5 years in prision and/or a $5,000 fine. You will recieve nowhere near this. I personally think that you will recieve probation and drug counseling, maybe community service. You have a lot of midigating circumstances that favor your defense....
1. From reading your post, you seem like a pretty smart person. So I am assuming that you have never been convicted of a violent crime or drug charge. Nor any other felony. First time offenders get second chances quite often, ecspecially on drug charges. The philosophy is that anyone can make a mistake with drugs, and that a first offense does not neccesarily merit jail or prision time. If this is your first offense...you will be going to drug counseling w/ probation and drug testing. There is a possibility of some jail time, but that depends on your record and what all the police dig up. Based on what you have said so far, I would be very suprised if a DA would try to throw you in jail. You also sound like a pretty upstanding and responsible person...prosecutors don't go after these kinds of people, ecspecially on their first offense.
2. The prescription you forged was for a drug that you are legally prescribed for a medical condition. You didn't steal a pad from some doctor and just start writing random scripts. It was only one drug, and the one your doctor had prescribed you for a legitimate medical condition.
3. You mentioned that you felt you may have been overprescribed at one point. This situation contributed to your addiction to the Adderall (adderrall). Addiction is a disease. It can cause people to do very irresponsible, irrational, and yes, sometimes illegal things. Therefore, some type of drug treatment or course would be much more benificial in your case than jail time. (This is kind of a tricky defense. Many people believe the opposite, that addiction is in no way a disease, and cannot be used as an excuse. It can go either way.)
So, assuming you have a clean record and taking into account these previously listed mitigating factors, I really believe that the prosecutor will offer you a drug counseling program and probation. People that go to jail stay on drugs, and just pick it up when they come out. Most courts prefer to send drug criminals to rehab or counseling.
Below are some statistics and excerpts regarding Florida's approach to prescription fraud and its penalties. I think they might ease your worries a bit.
Mitigating Circumstance 1:
"(d) The defendant requires specialized treatment for a mental disorder that is unrelated to substance abuse or addiction or for a physical disability, and the defendant is amenable to treatment." (From FL Statutes) - You do have ADD issues. You were trying to fix the problem with a medication that was provided by your doctor. Unfortunately, you became addicted and made this mistake. However, the pre-existing condition of ADD is still there and needs to be confronted.
Migigating Circumstance 2:
"(i) The defendant cooperated with the state to resolve the current offense or any other offense. " (FL Statutes) - You need that lawyer, and you need to confront this as soon as possible. Your maturity and responsibility will score big points with the prosecutor and judge. Very key!
Go Hear - Read Section B regarding sentencing:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0921/SEC005.HTM&Title=->2007->Ch0921->Section%20005#0921.005
Below is some information regarding first time offenders, and options available to them besides incarceration:
"Pretrial Intervention - Drug Offender
Any person charged with a felony of the second or third degree for purchase or possession of a controlled substance under Chapter 893, prostitution, tampering with evidence, solicitation for purchase of a controlled substance, or obtaining a prescription by fraud, who has not been charged with a crime involving violence, including but not limited to murder, sexual battery, robbery, carjacking, home-invasion robbery, or any other crime involving violence, and who has not previously been convicted of a felony, nor been admitted to a pretrial program, is eligible for admission into a pretrial substance abuse education and treatment intervention program approved by the chief judge of the circuit, for a period of not less than one year. At the end of the pretrial intervention period, the court shall make a decision as to the disposition of the pending charges. The court shall determine, by written finding, whether the defendant has successfully completed the pretrial intervention program. Failure to successfully complete the program shall result in the continued prosecution of the case by the state attorney’s office." - From Florida Corrections Stats
^^^^^^^HOPEFULLY YOU FALL INTO THIS GROUP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
‘67% of people who have commited a non-violent felony and have no felonies on their record recieve probation for their crime. 17% do less than 1 year in county jail. Only 8% do time in prison.’
‘54% of people who commit 3rd degree felonies get probation in general. 31% get less than 1 year in county jail. 8% do time in prision, and 75% of those who go to prision do less than 2 years.’
‘Those charged with 1st attempted prescription fraud, 71.9% recieve probation.’
Check this page out regarding your potential addiction to Adderall (adderrall), as part of your defense, etc: http://www.tgorski.com/Mental%20Health/ADD%20&%20ADHD%20Medication%20Options.htm
Note: All this information and statistics are from government agencies in Florida and are representative of the state's justice system.
That's all I got for concrete information!
One thing that I can really tell you, is that your record is going to determine what will happen to you. During the days I spent observing my uncle in drug court, it was just one person after another coming through, telling their sob story, the judge seeing their 3 other convictions and throwing them in jail. I really hope you have a good record, because if you do I believe you are in really good shape. And eventhough Florida is really cracking down on prescription drug issues because of the pain pill epidemic, I think being that you were prescribed the meds for ADD, your crime looks much less severe. I am praying for the best. You sound like a really good person. You don't seem like the type who is meant for jail time. Keep your head up! And attack it head on, you don’t want this weighing you down, and you know it will if you try to hide from it.
I wish you all the best!!! Good luck. I hope some of this information gives you some insight and maybe even makes you feel better. Just remember: the truth will set you free. Get that lawyer, tell him everything, and you should be okay(relatively). I know quite a few people who have done worse and none of them went to jail. Be prepared for anything, but also be honest and optimistic.
I know this all seems pretty long and random of me to do, but it’s a pretty good exercise for law school. So don't think I am crazy or anything guys. Just a little obsessed with the criminal justice system. If anyone else has stories or questions, I would be happy to listen or talk about them. Later all. Good luck with everything. BTW, I think I am around 4 weeks clean from pain pills and I feel incredible!!! Never messing with those things again. Naivety can really bite you in the ***! Hope you are all feeling great too. Stay strong!
-Hill
Amanda - Please keep us posted on what's happening. We are all here for you. Good luck with everything. And try to catch my previous post, I think it will help you sort through things and find a solution.
Night All,
Hill
Amanda I hope you are having a better day today. Listen to these people, they know what they are talking about. I hope there is nothing on you. I hope this is nothing more than a scare. The everyone know the outcome.
My husband is from Buffalo so he is a big Yankees fan also, I have no opinion about the stuff you are talking but I wanted to come back with something for you, So I call Greg (hubby) at work and told him the situtation, his thoughts are the following: Santanna is going to the Red Sox, and the TwinsT
wins will never pay A Rod's salery. I did my detective work, and just brought back an opinion.
Cathy
My husband is from Buffalo so he is a big Yankees fan also, I have no opinion about the stuff you are talking but I wanted to come back with something for you, So I call Greg (hubby) at work and told him the situtation, his thoughts are the following: Santanna is going to the Red Sox, and the TwinsT
wins will never pay A Rod's salery. I did my detective work, and just brought back an opinion.
Cathy
Thank you SOOO MUCH! This is such a wonderful board.
I'm so exhausted right now, ( lingering adderall (adderrall) effects), but I'm going to read through the rest of these posts first thing in the morning.
This board is so wonderful! Thanks again everyone!!
My ADD doctor in current town where I live is currently weaning me off Adderall (adderrall) and I'm down just to one Adderall (adderrall) daily administered and locked away by my father which is working. I'm gettingto the point I can wait longer and longer into the day before I take this one Adderall (adderrall) each day. As of this Thursday, my doctor is going to drop my Adderall (adderrall) to one every other day. (Will that be as drastic of a change for me and will there be more withdrawl if I skip a day from taking it?) I still count on that one Adderall (adderrall) 30mg daily and cant imagine skipping a day. I'm needing to get completely off Adderall (adderrall) in order to begin an inpatient drug rehab program close to where I live and complete it successfully. The weaning process from Adderall (adderrall) is taking forever and I hate the withdrawl especially the paralyzing tiredness which is very painful and non ADD people have no idea how being tired can hurt worse than hell as withdrawl from Adderall (adderrall) does. I'm comitted to quitting Adderall (adderrall) and moving on to what works just as well and onto a successful future. I'm not proud of what I did, but I'm committed to preventing my problems in the future which will only happen through addiction treatment for Adderall (adderrall) and to begin managing my ADD in a betterway.
My point, Amandalyn, your situation sounds extremely familiar and I'm glad I'm not alone and what you have written gives me much needed hope! Thank you! Know that you are not alone either and I will keep you in my thoughts. Together, let's not give up because you know what? We will have come through this as conquerers over Addiction, our ADD, and its consequences. We need to be proud of ourselves and warn the world to Look Out! Here come two awesome, successful women. Nothing is impossible for us.
-Debbie
A couple things, I like the idea about checking for existing warrants...and you can't go wrong(I don't think) by talkin to a lawyer. My sister was addicted to adderall (adderrall), it made he psychatic really the doctor that helped her get off them had to put her on antipsychcotic drug for a little while. She thought everyone was following her-gave me a list of 50+ license plates tore her house apart thinking the goverment had bugged it ect. I also had a friend, in TN many yrs ago who actually wrote and @ that time was able to phone in RX's to certain pharmacies. She had multiple counts of Rx fraud in 2 counties in TN and one in VA. She was charged w/a felony but avoided jail time.It wasn't such a hot button topic 6 yrs ago... I'm worried for you. I know it's hard feelin like you've gotta look over your shoulder but I don't think I'd throw myself under the bus either because the consequences are likely to be GREAT. I would speak to a lawyer if that is a secure route and just see what you're lookin at.Keep us posted and good luck