Addiction to pain meds

[TeleVision]

a little history, i got assaulted in mexico by about 4 guys and got the **** kicked out of me. never went to the doctor, was a tough teenager. now years later i get in a horrible car accident im lucky to survive and my back has never been the same since.
  so my doctor's think since im so young (22) that i shouldnt have strong pain killers. i finally got my doc to give me Norco 10/325 (Hydrocodone/apap) and Soma 350mg. this worked ok for a while but now i finish my months supply in 2 weeks so i went to him and asked to be put on something stronger like percocet but he basically laughed and said i was on something plenty strong.
  well so i took things into my own hands and now i am on a variety of very strong pain meds unregulated by a doctor. i take OxyContin 80mg, MS Contin 100mg, dilaudid 8 mg, and also get things sent imported to me like pentazocine, codiene phosphate, and morphine. i know i am very addicted now and things have gotten out of control. i mix and match pills for combination reations; i really dont know what to do. i dont shoot up, this all comes from wanting to control my pain but unlimited access to drugs is an easy way for things to go out of control. i really am just venting, i dont want to go on methadone, i just wish my doc would have helped me before i got to this situation. well theres my story.

[OxyDout]

Ok, first off, welcome!! I'll let skipper give you the official introduction to the forum.  Anyway, don't take this the wrong way, but you can't blame your doctor for this. The meds he gave you shouldn't have been gone in 2 weeks. You shouldn't be mixing all those drugs either.  I can understand your in awful pain but your addicted, not physically dependant but addicted. In order for you to stop you need to find the right doctor and right drug to stabilize your pain and then you are going to have to stop taking such a high dosage, but hey, its really easy to sit here and give you a lecture because I'm an angel............ ya right, haha, I was taking 160mg - 200mg of oxy a day.  I guess when you post here for a while you get to see threads started like yours and you wish you could stop people from using.  Its a long road to hell.  So I guess what you need to do is find the right doc, but try to refrain from using any pills to get high.  Don't buy off the street!! Find another doctor!!!  I hope your doing ok today, keep posting, there are many helpful people in this forum...

GWH

[TeleVision]

thanx for you response. today im actually doin very badly (on the verge of going into withdrawls), is probably the reason i decided to write the post. one thing i didnt mention i also take benzodiazepines (valium, xanax, klonipin) to fight off withdrawl effects from the opiate pain pills. yea it is easy to say just stop and find a good doctor cause ive been to many and most are even more strict then the one i go to now, and want to put me on tylenol w/ codiene or ibuprofen HA! now thats a laugh.
i finished my 30 day suplly in 2 weeks not cause i was trying to get high i was trying to control my pain and the reccomeded dosage was not controling my pain at all. its snowballed from there. i feel trapped in this cycle, i really dont know what to do.

[skipper]

television:
welcome to he forum, always room for just one more junky in here!
i hope to see more posts from you!

get honest with your doc! i know this is the last thing in the
world you want to do, but sooner or later you will have to. also
start looking for an addiction specialist and/or a pain mgt.
specialist. perhaps your doc is in over his head?

most competent MDs will not leave you in pain, but they won't think too much of getting you *loaded.* honesty and trust are
going to be needed at both ends here.
best of luck and keep posting
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[OxyDout]

I love how there is always room for one more junky.  Anyway, I had a surgeon who would always prescribe me 90 hydros with 3 refills, I could call him anytime and he would refill it, no joke!! You shouldn't worry about getting your doctor to prescribe something more potent, you should tell him exactly what has happened. Tell him your in severe pain, more then you can handle, and that the prescription isn't cutting it.  Then tell him you "dabbled" with oxycontin and now your stuck in the middle or withdrawals (I could never tell my doctor this, so don't feel bad if you don't think you can) anyway, that is your best option, then see what he has to say.

[TeleVision]

see thats the thing i have tried many times to tell him, even having an MRI and he refused to put me on anything stronger. i dont see how an oxycontin 10 mg would be any worse then Norco 10/325 except for this media craze about OxyContin "the next Heroin" has turned it into a devil drug. i mean at least OxyContin doesnt have acetometphen which is proven to do damage to your liver. it works great for me but i buy OC 80s because they are the best price per mg from my source.
i think anything i say to my doc will fall on deaf ears and if anything he will cut me off, which would be devistating, i still depend on that month supply and hardly any doctors will presribe Soma anymore, and i cant stand flexeril just makes me fall asleep. i guess i need to keep looking for another doctor.

TV

[OxyDout]

how did you come up with the name "Tele Vision"  Well then, let him cut you off, take skips advice, go see a pain doc, thats your best bet, they will be much more understanding then who your dealing with now.  I know you have been looking for another doctor, but you should really find a pain doctor, someone who can really help, you know??  Keep posting, we will be here for you.

GWH

[mrmichael67]

I can empathize with you because I had been put in the same situation.  At one point, I couldn't walk and I was still expected to take one percocet every 4 hours.  Oh yeah, sure, that's going to work!  And, not wanting to be in excrutiating pain, I did take enough to control the pain.  And, I ran out too early.  What state do you live in?  There are a lot of people that will easily blame their doc for their situation.  But, there are also a lot that think just because someone is blaming their doc, that the person must just be an addict.  And, if your story is true, then let those words go in one ear and out the other.  Just because you are young, and so am I, there isn't any reason for you not to have proper pain control.  But, like Skipper said, go to a pain specialist.  You have to get everything under control now, or things will just continue to get more out of hand.  And, don't let anyone tell you that you are too young.  Pain is pain.  I hope like hell that this isn't true, but what if you have to be in pain for the rest of your life.  The only thing that being young means is that it will be that much longer that you will have to put up with your pain.  And, no one should have to live like that.  Addict or not.  And, whether you are an addict or physically dependent is neither here nor there right now.  Get your pain under control and then see where you are at.  If you are indeed an addict, then a different approach might be called for.

[OxyDout]

I don't know if that was a shot at me, but the only reason I said he was addicted was because TV was talking like I used to talk, and by the way I'm only 22 myself, I have had percs/oxy since 5 years ago.  I don't want you to think I'm irritated or anything, I'm not at all, I just wanted to make sure that you and Tele Vision both know that I was just trying to help. you know?? so if that was a shot at my post then Fu-- you!!! just kidding, I need a laugh and I thought that would be funny. Its kind of hard to interpret humor through posting.  However, Skipper does it well. I always see you post (mrmichael67) but your info doesn't ring a bell, you said your young, how young? and what area are you from? I live outside Boston. DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY AND OR SERIOUSLY, JUST POKIN A LITTLE FUN.

[Hinkster]

We're allowed to have fun around here once in awhile. It keeps us out of the doldrums we're in every day. I'am with you one hundred percent. Make me laugh. By the way I'am just outside Springfield Ma. It must be catchy or this is just a fun loving
state.
Tom

[hippy]

im frrom philly' i think mr michael is from jersy,
not that it realy matters where we are from.
most of us are either in major pain or have gone through major pain.
me , i have been through major pain, and while i was going through it , i felt like i was drowning, or being smothered.
the thought of just shooting my self used to go through my head every day for about 2 years,
the worst part about it ,was the thought that   i might have to go through  it the rest of my life, that was truly to much to deal with, and just made things worse.
im rambling , hope everyone  does just a little better each day.
mr. michael your info and experence is a strong asset to this fourm. many thanks to you for taking the time to share your experence and knowledge.        

peace

[TeleVision]

TeleVision is my nick, the meaning of it shall remain a mistery to you all, sorry to say. i will say i am from Dallas, TX proud and love my city and even more my state of Texas.
on the other note i have talked to these 'pain specialists' in town and man they are so expensive its absurd. but maybe its just what i need to do. its just hard to stop sending money to my source though when i runn out of pills (like now). i mean right now the only reson i am not going into withdrawls and sweats is because i have bottles of valium, xanax, and klonopin to take to settle my nerves and relax me. i never take any benzo's unless im out of opiates or i need to sleep. they do work OK but i dont much enjoy them at all.

Tele

[TeleVision]

i appriciate your advise man. i hope to god i am not in this pain for the rest of my life too. excercise has helped a bit but still i get severe pain. and if you read my original post i clearly stated I AM ADDICTED. im not gonna lie to myself im an opiate addict but this all stems from trying to control a legitimate problem to turning to alternate sources who only care about how many pills you are getting not weather it is too much for you or if you are getting addicted. but thats why i should have not let myself get to this point, i always thought i was in such control of my life but this situation i feel has gotten out of my control and really feel helpless. sounds pathetic i know but this is my world i have made for myself.

TeleVision

[alchemist]

MrMichael,

I have been reading your posts since you started posting here and have found them to be very infomative and insightfull; I was wondering are you a doctor by any chance?

alchemist

[TeddyLee]

Hate to start a new thread/question, but I can never seem to get on in time to post a new question.  

Does anyone know about being able to purchase Ultram (tramadol) online without a prescription?  I've found several sites that allow this and they say it is legal.  Some even come with a free online doctor's evaluation.  All you need is a credit card.  

I can't find any info anywhere about this - can anyone help?

Thanks!
P.S.  I live in Texas - all the sites I've been to say they can legally ship this to all 50 states!  Then why do I need a prescription to get it at Walgreens?

[groovygirl]

no offense, but this is an addiction support site - some of the people here are trying to quit taking ultram.

[GOD]

From an Ultram Addict [used to be as many as 50 per day -- no kidding]

To answer your question.... YES, you can buy Ultram online. No it is NOT LEGAL. Believe me, I've been there... When you can get a hold of 1000 pills at a time, you THINK "Hey, this is GREAT! I don't need to get any more for 3-4 months.. I'm SET!"

day 1 -- 6-8 pills and feels GREAT.. NO PAIN
day 2 -- 10-12 pills "                   "
day 3 -- 15-20 pills Feels pretty good
day 4 -- 20-25 pills '               '
day 5 -- 30-35 pills Feelin' O.K.
WEEK 2 -- 30-40 pills per day, and feeling normal
WEEK 3-4 -- around 40 pills per day, and don't go for more than 4 hours without them, or you feel like ****...

WEEK 5 -- Hey! where did all my ******* pills go!?

Get the picture?

Go ahead, and buy online if you ARE addicted already, and try  to get enough to taper down like I did.. If you are NOT already "Needing" them, I would suggest that you don't try buying them.

** Also, if you are buying them from OVERSEAS, expect to get a letter from the U.S. Customs [Assuming you live in the U.S.A.] stating that your shipment has been seized, and you've been added to a "List" of potential "Drug seekers".... YES, it happened to ME.

Good luck to you,
Jess

[oh please already]

Hi everyone,I hope you are all well,Im not.I had in my purse one of my last 2 duragesic patches(im due for a refil on tues so you can see i have been doing great with them)all wrapped up in papers with a rubber band,its been there for about a week(my car's papers are all expired and I figured that if I had a promblem with the cops,I could slap it on,to hold withdrawl at bay if i got arressted,Im also a little paranoid still that i will face legal repercussions from my past drug shopping etc.)ANYWAY my husband was going through my bag(he goes into all my ****,I actually usually carry my bottle of meds on my person at all times so he wont clip it,did I meantion he's an addict too?)And I didnt think anything at the time but later I noticed that the patch was missing so I confronted him and he says i lost it,How insulting can he be to think that I would believe that the papers unwrapped themselves,the patch"blew away" and then these amasing papers refolded themselves,neatly on the crease at that,and that he didnt take it.I had noticed that one was missing a few weeks ago but had let it slide to keep the peace. I mean come on-you only get 10 for the month- I can count that high,Who said that the only difference between a addict and a alcoholic was they would both steal from you, but the alcoholic would just say sorry man I didnt see it and the addict who say the same and then help you look for it? So true,Now this is the part that is pissing the f*#k out of me- He knew that I was doing great with the patch,not taking more then 1 to 3 perc a day to supplement it,He knows how hard I have beeh struggling, and he still ****** me.He could of took the oxy or the percocet, I had tons, I hadent been taking them, but he took the one thing that I have found so far that seems to be the beacon on my path to stop my insanity but he didnt do that. Do you know that  a few months ago I had such a asthma attack that I went volentarly to the hospital,to ask for a tube, I was that sick and tired of trying to breath,I was there for 9 long days and when I was discharged I got A script for predisone and he took that too? Because he heard you could get a buzz from it?sorry that im going on but im not done yet but will post and then resart a new post so I dont lose this one

[oh please already]

sorry about that but the other day i wrote a long post and then i lost my aol because my broser was inactive and i have been trying to type more legable,so it takes me longer.So I have to admit I was so I dont know the word im looking for here, but i was so-- that I spent my day popping pills like they were M&M's and then I realized that to him it didnt matter and I was only hurting myself so I stopped,Put on my last patch(which will be an omen to the cops so i cant drive till I get my refill,not that I REALLY believe in omens,but why take the chance :) .And now to get to the point of all this ** I know that my husband is reading this forum,he has to get in all my affairs,he sits sometimes and watches over my shoulder and tell me how you all must think im an ass because I suck at spelling and I tend to ramble but thats ok,maybe something will click for him.and I want to tell HIM something,I will not save you ,and you will not bring me down with you.It is not my job-We are suppose to be partners and watch each others backs but you dont.I have kept quiet for too long,one -because i love you and two- because of emily,You knew how important it was and how strong I felt about her begin with her parents or family and not in preschool to be nurtured by strangers but she is bigger now,and if I have done my job right-and I think I have ,she will not need me so much for much longer-I thank you for working so that I could prepare her to be joyful and strong to face the world awaiting her,But truly I dont think you sacrificed much,you were surpose to do it- you are her father,not her babysitter and you would of had to work everyday even if she and I were not in the picture,I will not clap my hands for you when all you did was what you were suppose to do-and thats all you did-just enough to get by,nothing extra and I think She is now at a age (4)that see is seeing more and she has to see people really trying_ She deserves more and so do I. You underestimate me,But I am getting stronger each and every day now so you are going to have to make a choice-the right thing or your thing because as much as I think that every child deserves both parents at this point of our lifes i dont know if what we have and what we are are the best thing for our daughter and after losing so much,i am not ready to willingly give up more.Sorry to air personal things but I feel strong here,and like I said I am hoping that some of this,some of you can open his eyes to the light,like you have mine< I am sorry about using today,I feel like i let everyone down,most of all me and emma-and I will try again ,not tomorrow,but starting right now                       laura

[mrmichael67]

He did a real terrible thing to you.  As far as getting high goes, he would have been better off taking the oxy or percs.  The duragesic takes, for me, at least 5 or 6 hours before I start to even feel it.  A good 10 hours 'till it's really kicked in.  Anyway, he should have respected you more than he did.

[groovygirl]

hello - you've never said much about your husband, it must be a very painful situation for you.  i LOVE what you said about trying again - not starting tomorrow but right now.  those are the words of someone with strength, so don't sell yourself short - ever.

if you need more of the patches, i bet you could talk with your dr. about what happened, and he would understand.  that was a real shitty thing your husband did - maybe he is jealous of your making such an effort at getting clean - maybe he's afraid that when you're not on the drugs, you won't like him so much...that maybe you'll see him in a clearer light?

i'm sorry you have to deal with this on top of everything else...maybe by watching his desperate actions, it will inspire you to get clean even more.  stay with it - you are doing great, and you sound stronger every day.

[oh please already]

Thank you   that what i said

[Hinkster]

I've got one of those patches I got from a friend and never opened it. I can mail it to you in a greeting card with no
return address. Maybe that will help you get by until you get
your new script. It says on it 100ug(h) System Duragesic 10mg
Fentanyl/0.4 Alcohol. Its yours if you want it might take two or
three days depending where you are. Let me know and good luck.
Tom

[skipper]

hi people:

this is one of the lost ones i'm trying to find. had real fiful
sleep last night and well it sort of "came home" to me. i've been
fighting myself all morning about "reworking" it. any how here it is, kind of a ghost from the 60s - back to haunt/taunt me...

when the ashes of the evening
have fallen to your shoulders,
and sweet morning exhales
a drop of clinging silver dew.
stop, send a smile to me.
i will not be there - but
i will be thinking of you
and sending smiles too.


hope everyone has a great saturday! oh yeah send me a smile!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Hinkster]

That was fantastic. Thanks for the enlightment. We need to smile
once in awhile. I hope you've got a smile on your face to.
Tom

[IrishRose]

Hinkster- you have a good heart, I can tell. I probably shouldn't say anthing cause MedHelp will probably see your post to meagain and delete it but I guess I'm not gonna be able to keep my mouth shut so here goes. I know you are trying to help meagain, what happened to her was unfortunate but what you are suggesting is illegal. But you know us addicts, if we can't go through we will try to go around, under, over, etc. This is the kind of suggestion for help best not posted here if you know what I mean. In the past when such suggestions or offers for help have been posted they have been deleted and warnings issued. I'm not bashing or flaming you at all, so please don't take umbrage, I'm just speaking from past experience in reading similar threads.  I can't stand to see anyone hurting either. I am I have been told, pretty co-dependent and I will try to fix you whether you want me to or not. I'm not saying you are codependent, I think you genuinely want to help but maybe this is not the best way to help meagain. Again I think you have a heart of gold, I hope I didn't offend you. Meagain, please don't take offense, I think what happened to you is awful, and I hope you find some help but this suggestion could get both of you in trouble. Take care.

[Hinkster]

Thanks for the advice. I didn't know but I do now. Like you said I was just trying to help.
Tom

[Hinkster]

Hi everyone. Well I guess I really screwed up. Wouldn't you know
it trying to help someone out. That phrase "nice guys always finish last" thats a gut wrencher but all so true. Now its time to pay the piper. God forbid thats the last thing I wanted to do
is get someone in trouble. I think ya'll know me by now. Well
sadly this will be my last post. I love you guys you have been
good to me and for me. I think its best for everyone I exit the
family. This is tough but it has to be. I wish everyone the very
best of everything, please all get well and keep the dragon away.
Lets end this with "keep an angel on your shoulder" in honor of
my friend kip. Take care everyone and God bless.
Tom

[skipper]

hinkster:
what's this about leaving? i know....everytime i make a mistake i
want to crawl into a hole...and  i feel like that a lot...

i'm asking you to reconsider...see we can't do it alone...not you,
not me.

the angel on my shoulder is you and everyone else who post here. i
know all there is about running and hiding...i don't know much a-
bout standing steady.

need ya' buddy
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[IrishRose]

Please don't stop posting. I truly did not mean to offend you or make you feel bad, but I guess I did. This is a prime example of me not being able to mind my own f***king business. When am I gonna learn? It's not like I'm the freaking forum monitor or anything, I should mind my own business. If anyone quits posting here it will be me. So I'll slink off now.

[angst]

Skipper, your poem made me cry.  I guess it meant a little loss to me, because I've lost so many along the way.  All my family too, except 2 siblings and aunts and uncles.  It was beautiful & melancholly at the same time.  You have a real talent.  I appreciate you.  I know if I need, all I usually have to do is post for you, and you'll be here.  Thank you, Ava

Hinkster,   don't get down on yourself.  I do not think there are many who have now done a faux pas (sic), make a mistake when you've had time to think it over.  If everyone who made a mistake on this forum stood up, there would be a very few standing, and then they might to get honest about themselves after all.  I do not want to be on a pedastel. It is a long,far
way to fall.  You keep posting.  Many people enjoy and need you.
The strength of the whole forum is greater than any one person.
Don't beat yourself up.  Like Skipper says, there are days when you have to tuck down your head and keep walking.  That is so true.  If you need to talk, you know where I am.   Ava

[angst]

I did not get a clear picture from your last post.  I want you to know that your children need you, not some substitute.  No man is worth giving up your precious life and those of your children.  
It is better to get your pay back in other ways.  One thing is to leave his ass or have him kicked out while you and the kids are gone.  He will have to pay childsupport and alimony while you can get the help you need from the Dept of H & H.  
Laura,  you are strong and have something to give this forum and the world.  Tell the man he cannot pick on you anymore.
I will be here to listen.  Good luck and Blessings,   Ava

[hippy]

we need you,as we all need each other,
you are young and smart, and you know we have to give it away to keep it.
we need each other to keep posting, it save lives, and it 's
not like it is such a great effort.
in any event, i was taught that there are no chance meeting's.
and meeting you on this fourm has had a positive effect.
hope to see ya posting, your witty kind words.  peace.
                                                michael

[Hinkster]

Aah look at what I started. I feel worse now. Irishrose you've
got to stay. please you will make me feel much better if you stay. Look you cared about me and did not want me to get into
hot water. It was just a small misunderstanding and you could
not sleep last night. I feel terrible. If I forget this whole thing will you? Thanks to all of you who wrote about me. I will
lay low and promise to jump back in if and when I feel i can help
some of you out. Lets drop this for good and get back to doing
the things we do best and thats caring about each other and
helping one another. Please.
Thanks Tom

[IrishRose]

Hey Tom- for two people who weren't gonna post here anymore we've sure been here alot haven't we!? I am really struggling with some character defects right now, and this just brought home to me just how much of a busy body I still am. Ugh. It's just real stinky to look at my own shortcomings and yeah it would sure as hell be easier just to disappear but I'll stay warts and all if you will.  I'll not be around much, I have a lot going on right now but I'll be with you all in heart but I'll still be here if you will. Deal?

[groovygirl]

hi guys - skipper, i loved your poem.

irish - your post about sending meds thru the mail was true - it isn't the way, and it causes more problems - especially if someone gets caught.

meagain - altho you didn't say anything about my post to you, i hope you took it in the right context - i was trying to defend you from your husband's dishonesty with you.

carpal tunnel is worsening - can hardly type.

[shiba]

hello,  I have a question to anyone who can answer.  I have been taking about 20 Norco 10/325 a day for many years.  I am now trying to cold turkey it.  I know I can do it and I know I will but for my own piece of mind, does anyone know how long I can expect to feel this bad?   How long do the withdrawl syptoms (symptoms) last?  I into my third day now.  Am I nearing the end?

[Hinkster]

Irishrose you did absolutely nothing wrong. You were just trying to help me out and to keep me from getting in to trouble. I thank
you for that. For Gods sakes don't leave the forum because of me.
Kip Its time to go Like I said before I have nothing to offer any
one here. I'am real green at this and a learner not a giver.
Angst you came through for me again. God bless you. But it is time to move it on as much as I don't want to. So again goodbye
and please remember noone did anything to me. Please no guilt
feelings from anyone. Again so long
Tom

[angst]

you are not a quitter.  if you need to lay low, and read the posts, take the time.  please, do not say you will never post again.  that is finite, like the end.  you do have things to offer.  what you offered meagain would be applauded in different circumstances.  do not let one person criticing your post get you down.  most of us know your intentions were not to get her high.  she has chronic pain.  i see very little censorship on the
forum.  you are okay.  you are better than okay.  the whole of the forum is greater than any one person.  i'm not placing any blame on anyone.  my concern is that you might go and the forum be less for it.  please reconsider. good luck and Blessings,Ava

[skipper]

hinkster:
do what ya'have to do
right or wrong, weak or strong.
and if we meet at the cross roads
remember me  'fore passing on

wait a minute that's a bunch of ****! like angst said lay back for
awhile, don't overfill your vocabulary with permanece!
KEEP AN ANGEL ON YOUR SHOULDER
kip

[oh please already]

1st let me say thank you-your offer meant lot but ive got it undercontrol and you neverknow when youll have a need so keep it tucked in a safe place.but your offer was heartfelt and much appricated for its kindness,it gives me hope in strangers-even though more of u feel like family.I am sorry it took me so long to post but ive been moving along,taking care of things long neglected.I will try to post later .and second I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE EVER WRONG FOR BEGIN KIND<. thanks again laura

[IrishRose]

Hey Tom- Like angst said don't let one person and apparently I am that " one person" who criticized your post- affect your ability to post. Like I said, I was out of line. I was speaking from past experience thats all.In the past MedHelp has taken a dim view of that kind of thing but since I dont work for them I should just back off. I truly meant you no harm. I could not sleep last night because of this. But I will no longer be posting here. I wish you well and again I am sorry.

[oh please already]

I cant believe all the commotion I have caused here,I am so sorry that anyone feels -NO WAIT THAT IS NOT TRUE- i cant believe how much love and concern that i have seen on this thread and I cant believe that some of it was about me.I cant believe so many people are rooting for me,standing up for me,BELIEVING IN ME-Its been a long time since I have felt that someone cared about me,without wanting something,and look ,here all you are,loving me.Thank you.A few weeks ago I would off blown it all off,saying no not me, i dont deserve it,but now I gratefully say thank you-I am becoming what you all are helping me to be,and without alot of you I would never of been able and remain able to get it together.SO ( was going to list names but i would of forgoten someone and someone would of felt bad, thinking they didnt matter,not relizing that it my short term memory that is shot so i wont-SO everyone just thank you.The offer of the patch ,concern of causing the forum trouble and all the suggestions were well needed.Like I said,im managing without the one patch-I was going to call the doctor,but you know Ijust dont want to become known as a seeker to the new doc- I want my name to stand good,with no bad thoughts behind it.Lord knows Ive told enough My dog ate my homework stories,and even though it is true this time I know it will raise flags in her head(because of people like me,what ive done)and as mrmike will tell you,the patch had a long half life,so im ashamed to say it wasnt like I needed to take anything-It was a matter of resuming old patterns in anger.There was no excuse-reasons yes ,but no excuse.And also A very big motivater i am having is that I do not want any records of my drug use-I want to show a realisthic record of regaining control supported by a doctors record of treatment for my addiction .When the **** hits the fan with my husband,and it will- I do not want him to have any issues to control me-and I do not trust him ,as i said he is also a addict but a angry one and in his hast to hurt and control me- I know he will open doors that could harm my daughter,so i am going to have to show on paper ,how I am doing to justify what I have done.And anghts believe me when i tell you I know-IN lifesaving class the 1st thing they teach you is DO NOT TRY TO SAVE ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO TAKE YOU DOWN WITH THEM-we all have to be at least partly responsable and in control or we can kill the very person whos come to save us and that is his reposnability too,he has to let help come close enough to toss him a lifesaver,I do not have to let him push my head underwater so that he can breath.Maybe its true like he says,i can hold my breath longer but you know what I dont want too.Period. He has to learn to help himself,its not my job mon.On that note,I wish you all love and peace  laura

[rowanshyne]

BITE ME, BUB!!  

You're a friggin' addict just like the rest of us and you're making fun of Laura's spelling and faults because you don't have to balls to sit down and type your own bloody post, do ya?!
Come on, show us all what a man you are.  Show Laura you're a better speller, show us your *own* wisdom.  Then go look in the mirror and admit, at least to yourself, how ashamed of yourself and scared you are.
Pisses you off that you can't get to me, doesn't it?  Use that energy and do something worthwhile.
Post *one* lousy, stinking *anything* of your own and I'll tell you how you can get to me, or I'll come to you.  Your choice.

Meagin, bless you and keep you, and li'l Emily, too.  As my HP once said, "Don't **** off little, round women, they'll rip out your chest hairs with tweasers".
Hint: I'm a little, round woman, and I'm pissed.

Irishrose and Hinkster:  You are confusing me, although I'll admit, that particular task doesn't take much effort.  How do you two think the rest of us could live if it weren't for you darling "Co's".

BB!
Wren

[Hinkster]

Deal!

[angst]

are you lurking again.  are you being good?  i sure hope so.  i've got a big day ahead, so i can't stay on posting for long.
just checking everything out, and seeing whose out there. you know i'm on central time.  come on out of your shell, and shout
GoodMorning to Everyone!

[tex3]

Hi Shiba. As you can see it's hard to start a new topic here, so I hope you're still reading and see this.

You're about on the dose I was. Are you taking anything else at all? That's important, so please post it if you are. There's a "recipe" that will help with the withdrawals.

I hope you're hanging in there. If you made it past the third day, you will find that things get better each day. You still have a long road, but if you took that first step you're on your way. Hang tough and we will help you. I quite six weeks ago. The WDs stop after the first week, really, but you will deal with a lack of energy, depression, some other ugly stuff, but nothing as bad as that first week, I promise :).

Please update as to how you are doing. You can email me personally if you like, at ***@****. Hope to help you out.

[OxyDout]

Irish Rose - you only had good intentions, I will be candid and tell everyone that, I personally don't find it necessary for others to make comments on suggestions of sending meds and what not HOWEVER, YOU COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYMORE RIGHT, I just don't think this is the place to tell people what is ok, and what isn't, you know? so again, I do agree with you 100% as far as sending meds goes. Its not the right thing, but hey........you know? In anycase, you and skip have been the core of this forum, the heart and soul, i would do anything for either of you, i'm telling you this because i don't want you to take offense to what i have said.  YOU REALLY MEAN THE WORLD TO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE FORUM, so Thank you for being here, and for being who you are.

Hinkster - I hope your not leaving due to what people have said, I don't think that is the case, I think its just your time to take off for a bit, i get that, I know how you feel, so I wish you the best of luck, stay strong, stay positive and keep your head held hi, god bless you.

Groovy, how did the party go sat?? my girlfriend had her graduation ceremony in the sleet/snow/rain, YUCK!!  I feel so terribly that you have carpal tunnel syndrome, are you ok?? let me know how you are feeling.  I know I have said this before, but I can't tell you how much of an inspiration you have been to me, you have been like a mother figure to me, (your not old enough, haha) but you have, you have shown me the difference in lifestyles, your experience and maturity has shown me what can happen and what I can do to help it, or what not to do in order to stay sober.  I especialy appreciate all your efforts on keeping me honest.  please write to me and let me know how you are.

Dive, please email me

[tex3]

Hi Me/Laura! I am so proud of you. You've really come far in the past few weeks. You're doing great, for yourself, for your precious daughter. I know you love your husband and only the two of you truly know what is going on in your marriage. THAT SAID, is he even trying to quit, or just giving you a hard time? I know he supports you financially but that isn't worth a dime when he brings you down in other ways, ways that are damaging to your very soul. Have you thought of getting out of that situation? Moving on? It's so tough, I know, with a baby, but many, many women do it.

I left my husband in January, as our relationship had become very destructive (although he has never used drugs and I admit now that a lot of it was my own fault). My leaving made him realize many things, though, and opened the door to us starting over again. We've done so and while things are far from perfect, we're working on it and better than we've been in 12 years of marriage.

Obviously our situations are very different. But the picking, the teasing, the put-downs -- I dealt with all that. If it had kept on, I would have said go to hell and don't come back. I gave him another chance (after I'd left and he realized what he was losing) and it worked. That was us. Just the act of leaving gave me tremendous strength. You already have a lot of strength, to have come this far. Think through your options and know we are all here for you, no matter what. Don't let him bring you down (I can tell that you're not). Let me know how you're doing please.

[oh please already]

hey tex/tracy  is that your web site i keep trying to join? sorry i gave you the wrong spelling of my privte adress i re-sent it. small world isnt it?  its an ok day, long ,the kind that the more u do the more needs to be done,like - u clean a speck on the wall ,the rest looks dirtier so u clean  that then u notice the chair is dirty,get down to clean that and see how dirty the floor is ,then notice the rugs and so on and on.  laura

[oh please already]

you have been on my mind and i do not know if you r going to like what i have been thinking,but here we are honest and I am not trying to flame you,embarrass you or hurt you- I only wish to help.After begin on this forum for the last few months,I have come to belive that I am among the leadeing users,No 3-10 darvocet or percocet for me.I was taking betwwen 400-800 mg of oxycotin as well as other odd drugs in a day,and in trith in only a few hours because i would take most after my daughter was in bed so she wouldnt see me wasted,so it was really 3-4 during the day then 8-14 at night of the 40 mg tabs.I thought i was resting but i was nodding off(just like a herion addict with a needle in my arm)and I liked it ALOT untill I relized What it really was.You say you take 80 mg oxy,ms and a **** load of some of the highest pain meds-and u are 22 and after a mri your MD was relectant to give you more?He saved your life,u just dont know it yet.Dont you ask yourself why? Nothing documented shows cause of such  major pain>I am not saying that your pain is not real,I do believe you,but people with bone cancer,get by with a lot less.You say u dont want to lose your current doc because u cant afford to lose your supply-no offense man ,but its your head,your mind- you would need to take your whole script to equal 3 oxy 80 mgs, and your right- the tylenol will kill you and the thing about tylenol is that is a delay reaction thing-it doesnt happen today,when u start to notice trouble its already too late,you need a kidney and liver transplant-its the only treatment for major of chronic tylenal overdose- SO stop it now.and you tell of all the downers you have and justify there use also-ans jet no md is willing to help and you say its because its your age-it doesnt sound right to me-You need to start begin truthful-start here-noone will attack u-we have all been there when we felt the need to control the pain and all gone to amasing limits to do it-BUT and this is the but which will either save you or doom you-you need to admit that a big and i mean BIG part of your trouble is your head or you will die.It doesnt mean to say that it was your fault-sometime your mind makes you do things you dont understand,and you have a reason for doing something ,but that is not the same as a excuse for doing it.As i get it together,and i am still a far far far way off,I can not believe how much i physologically need these pills-the physical withdrawl is nothing next to the mental-the thought of losing the mental bandaid i had found to cope with the terror and pain in my life was nothing to the idea of withdrawl and I say Idea because Im still taking meds-but not at an insane amount-I coulnt kick it out from where I was so Im working on a path that will lead me there with the minimal amount of suffering-Why sould I suffer,i was sick-but its the treatment that got me there because I started to self medicate and justify that the meds werent working,and they werent- i had pain-except the pain was on the inside,in my head and heart -the pills dont stop that pain BUT THEY DO MAKE IT FORGETABLE, the only trouble is they make life forgetable too-you forget everything but the pills,and then you forget to live and if your not lucky,one day youll forget to breath and then youll be dead .Get off now-if i can ,you can I promise and do you know what,as the numbness fades-the colors come back and things that you forgot were good are better,somethings still suck,but things sucked even when u were high but now I am begining to have control over changing the things that suck,instead of hating myself as i slipped into another nod,I can think of better things then spending all my time worring where the next pill will come.I will tell you,some of the people you ask for help will be asses,For me most were but I found alot who werent and it was enough-because it has to be I dont want to forget to breath.I dont think you do either,or u wouldnt have come here-so be honest with yourself only if thats all you can bear-its ok-Ive been there too but know no one can truly help you until you are. If i spoke out of turn I am sorry but you reminded me of me,I know the horrors and the fear when you keep reading how hard it is to quit a little and say **** man how the hell am i going to do it then?but you will and I will  one step at a time just like everyone else         laura-

[oh please already]

wow after reading my last post i realize how much i need to proofread and learn to go back a page to do it. and also my a key seem to be sticking quite a bit-sorry   i swear i wasnt trippig    LOL  -oh and my n key too.  I think I need one of those little vacume thing-ies also- Ill go to k-mart tomorow I swear and never never again leave a big gulp on my desk for 2 days until the bottom disolves ans drips sticky stuff every where ( I dont think that help much either) oh well what ya gonna do-but I must say my spelling is improving nicely-dont you all think?Is 3 in the morning and im in a silly mood-so I will go read a book-Did anyone here ever read Lewis Grizzard- hes a southern colomist(WAS) who's laugh out loud funny- I was once on a subway reading "shoot low boys,their riding sheatland ponies "and laughed so hard everyone moved away and here in new york- it takes alot to be deemed strange but it could of been my tatooes also     :)     ,    laura

[tex3]

Hey Me, how are you doing girl? I don't have a website so wasn't me. You can write anytime though at ***@****. Let me know how you are today, please. Kick that husband out yet? Just kidding, hoping to bring a smile to your face...:)

[soccy]

meagain, I don't think your husband took your patch was any kind of intentional hurt towards you, or to get at you, he was feeding his addiction.  We've all I'm sure hurt people from our addictions in some way or another, we weren't deliberately trying to do so but we had to take care of ourselves and others ended up getting hurt.  Not saying that what happened sucks any less, but at the same time I don't think what he did was something personal against you.

[nanotechusa]

Just curious, where to you import these drugs from?  What website?  I've researched this for my hair loss for Propecia (its very expensive here) and ive thought about importing it generically.  Many of these sites however, are very unreliable and scams...

Thanks
Jason

[angst]

Most of us do not import drugs.  Maybe one or two have a doctor on line.  Not many of us use that way.  Actually this site is a place we come to when we need support staying off the drugs.  
There are addicts, chronic pain patients, and those of us maintaining.  You've come to the wrong place if you want me to tell you how to cope some dope.  If you have valid medical problems, you can go to a doctor, addictionologist, pain specialist, or your run of the mill-pick him out of the phone book doctor-, but i suggest you read some of this forum.  you  will find the pain drugs bring along with them.  Good luck to you.  I hope you never find my drug of choice.  I could have died
many, many times.  I am alive, and I believe my Higher Power kept
it that way.  Tough love is good love sometimes.  Good luck.

[Aimee1]

Hi everyone!

I am new to this forum as it seems many of you are not.  I have been reading here this a.m. (EASTERN TIME) for quite a while and could not resist the temptation in posting...  I have been where many of you are today.  My story is not unique however, I have something I want to keep and that is ONLY IF I GIVE IT AWAY.  I am a recovering LORTAB addict of many years and many pills.  I am sober in recovery now for over 3 years and want to tell you that the stories I read here sounded like me BEFORE sobriety.  I see the "personality similairities" and want to say that it is NICE to be free of that rat race, chasing doctors, pharmacies, etc.  I am 34 years old, a professional, I have 2 children, a wonderful husband and geeze -- WOKE UP one day and realized.... I AM TOO, A DRUG ADDICT.  Boy, the name sounds so bad, but YES I AM and will always be a drug addict and hopefully a recovering drug addict.  This disease does not discriminate and does not pick sides of the streets.  It is a very visiouc disease and does kill.  I have seen many die of addiction, many more lose family members and have seen the horrible tragedies in which a family sometimes never overcomes when one is in the throes of addiction.  I would love to give to you what I have today... I know addiction is the worst thing in the world to wake up to daily and I know the hurt it puts on families.  But, most of all - I know that NONE of you USING ADDICTS want to use anymore especially with the drugs that are availale now.  We cannot continue to let this disease take the live of our loved ones and cannot let this happen to our CHILDREN.  IT does take a VILLAGE TO RAISE CHILDREN, however it takes a NATION to beat the WAR ON DRUGS.  I am here for anyone in need of a friend, a foe, a kick in the a$$, a listener, and most of all a confidant whom has been there and done that.  I wish for you what I HAVE and would not have it if someone didnt give up on me.  I know the hurt in your heart and wish I could bottle recovery cuz I'd be a millioniare!  Thanks for reading and hope to hear from you all!  Yours in Recovery!  Ahhhh!  How do I do a spell check???  This is not fair!  LOL!

[GOD]

Hiya, Aimee....

Here there would be MANY, MANY, millionaires if we could "Bottle" what we have learned in recovery..... Geez, wouldn't it be nice if we could just take a pill that would make us "Normal" -- Ha ha ha!!!!

I came to this forum as a recovering alcoholic (Professional, your age, Etc.) Didn't think I was an addict as well until I was prescribed this little "Harmless" non-narcotic drug called Ultram©. I went to my Doctor after about 3 or 4 months of sobriety, and asked if there was anything I could do for my nerve damage pain (I have Peripheral Neuropathy brought on by years of UNREAL hard liquor consumption... MASS QUANTITIES, and such.) I TOLD my physician that I was a recovering alcoholic, so I did not want/need any addictive narcotic drug. I just wanted SOMETHING more powerful than the usual Tylenol© that did not seem to be of any help. So he says to me, “Yeah, Jess I’ll fix you up with a prescription for Ultram© -- a lot of people swear by it, and say it’s even more effective than codeine.” He was right. Very effective. Pain all gone. Me happy now. It’s just that after only 2-3 weeks I was eating my 1 month prescription in 3-4 days. Sound familiar? Anyway, getting off of a few months of abusing a synthetic narcotic was FAR worse than my going through a couple days of DTs and everything that goes with years of alcohol abuse. I REALLY admire all of you on this board who are struggling with all these different but powerful drugs. I just thank GOD that I did not have to try recovering from Vicodin©, Oxycontin©, Oxycodone©…. And the list goes on and on…..

Good luck to all, and have a good evening/morning (whenever you’re reading this!)

Love ya all,
Jess

P.S. Wondering why I put the “©” copyright symbol on all the drug names? I heard a lot of drug company lawyers read sites like this one…. These drug companies are VERY powerful, and I just don’t want to be sued!

[Aimee1]

Hi Jess,

Thanks for the reply.  I too, know all so well of the likes of ULTRAM...  I thought I was onto something while trying the detox dive at home one week and tried the ULTRAM as a substitute for MOTRIN (knowing the opiate receptor's inability to differentiate the Ultram and thinking, ah -- I can at least try it since it isnt a real "narcotic"} ...  WELL, little to my surprise, I was onto something alright!  It worked confounding for the detox for a while, until I tried to stop taking it...  GEEZE, to say the least - I was detoxing AGAIN from the ULTRAM.  I think this drug would be widely used as in MAT and would be a wonderful treatment for those of whom cannot go the abstinence route.  In all fairness however, it is still an abused drug and really should be reclassified on the schedule list.  In time, I am sure it will be.  Docs are not prescribing this drug as much anymore since they are now being "more educated" in the areas of addiction to Ultram while the marketing personnel for this drug have been re-educated in their explication to the docs.

For any of you:  What is your opinion on "Brain damage as permanent in the opiate/narcotic abuser" -- Just would love to hear some feedback.  THANKS!  Aimee

[angst]

hello, my name is Ava, and i am a maintaining nurse without a
license.  after my first 5 years of Stadol NS, for intractable
vascular headaches, i knew i was addicted.  i went to a pain clinic where i had injections of botox and a local into my face, head and neck.  horrible.  i was then put on propoxyphene - darvocet or wygesic.  i finally od'd with some barbituates i had
gotten my hands on, because i was in so much physical and emotional pain.  i lived because someone came by the house and found me prostrate on the kitchen floor.  that was rehab 101.
i got out and found the needle, and why waste good drugs at work?
i found a way to recycle those wastages.  i also was introduced to dilaudid off the street.  that became my drug of choice. it is
better than pharmacutil dilaudid.  the yellow pill disolved in H2O. Now that gave me a rush like nothing i'd ever had.  i went to methadone for about 2 years and then detoxed with the help of NA. i stayed clean for 6mo. while in NA.  I took a 12hr shift job
at a poor private hospital.  i started back using after my i'd been there for about a month or two.  i had 2relapses before the
hospital caught on to me.  i surrendered my license and have opportunity to get them back. i just do not know if i want to do that right now.  My 3rd and final relapse hit me while i was waiting tables.  As soon as i could, i ran back to methadone, it saved my life, when my friends were od'ing on oxy's and various
other drugs including dilaudid.  i am not putting a time limit on this time around.  i get counselling and group therapy at the
methadone clinic.  this place does more than take my money and
wham, bam, thank you maam.  I hope for recovery one day soon. I am safe now. As for the endorphins and seritonin, i believe they
will replenish themselves. it is the crystal methamphetamine that
does irreparable damage.  thanks for posting.  yours is a humble
result, and i sure hope to be there one day.   Ava

[JoeyR]

I would like some information please. I have been taking Darvocet for sometime now... about 8 months and take 12 pills a day...Usually 3 or 4 at a time. How do you know when you are addicted? I dont feel so good if I go without it for more than a day. I get nervous, sweat (god i hate that) and hurt. I am taking them for a sinus problem I have because I cannot afford the surgery to fix the problem. I really want to stop this, but am afraid to. I live in the Chicago area. My name is Joey.

[JoeyR]

I should also say that I have been living with clinical depression since I was 16... now 28 and I take wellbutrin twice a day. I also have Ativan which I use to sleep, but unlike the Darvocet, I do not find a "high" in taking the Ativan. I use that for what it helps me with. (Anxiety and sleeping).

After reading some of the warnings that go along with pain killers, it scares the hell out of me to think I am in that situation but just dont realize it I guess. I never in my life thought I would become addicted to "legal" drugs like this. This really sux.

[Aimee1]

Hi JoeyR!

Sounds to me like you are in active addiction.  Anything that makes you sick while not taking is usually an addiction.  Addiction differs in many ways.  There is pseudo addiction and flamboyant addiction.  Taking 12 Darvocets a day is definately abuse of the medication and warrants the necessity to question your motive.  Are you taking these meds simply to feel better or are you taking these drugs to "feel good or even normal" -- Just a question as you, yourself know the answer.  Be honest with your answer to yourself and seek medical attention to this as addiciton does kill.  Go to your PMD and ask his advice as he is the only one who is able to suggest a plan of treatment for you.  If he is unable to do  so, please ask for a referral of another doctor.  There is help out there and is usually not too expensive.  Please do this now as it gets much worse and usually doesnt end too quickly unless intervention is accepted!  Good luck to you and in all you accomplish!  There are several great recovery sources out there that can and will help.  Be sure to research ALL of them before making that committment since one size does not fit all.  Addiction is a disease that needs medical attention first. Second comes the REASON for the addiction as while counseling, the matter often arises.  THANKS!

[galawyer]

Hi all

How would I find a detox doctor or center?  I have been taking pain medication (oxy and percocets) for 15 months now.  I first started taking them to manage pain associated with the side effect from chemotherapy and radiation.  I know I don't need them anymore and would like to stop, but I admit that I cannot do it on my own.  My oncologists just keep refilling the prescriptions for me whenever I ask.  I think they are just taking the easy way out, which is stupid.  But it is just as stupid of me to keep asking for them.  Any help would be appreciated.  thanks.

[angst]

are you a lawyer from georgia?  never mind the nickname.  sometimes you can call local hospitals for doctor referrals.  so ask if they have a doctor who specializes in addiction medication.  i know the local rehabs have names of addictiologist
for your help.  you could also go to the doctor who gave you the
drugs to ask for his help detoxing.  you will need help.  i hope i have been of some help.  Good luck and Blessings,  Angst

[galawyer]

Thanks.  I will try the doc and see what she says.  BTW, I am a lawyer in Georgia.

[Tate]

Hello Everyone. Cant tell you all how helpful it has been reading this thread.  I just discovered this site tonight.  I typed in "Opiate Withdrawl" in my search engine and came to this website.  I am a 27 yr old female.  I'm married and have two beautiful daughters ages 3 and 5.  Like a lot of you I have just came to terms with myself and realize that I am  pill junkie.  I've known it for some time and have just been in denial of course.  I even lost my last job over it although I never have admitted it or fessed up.  I feel especially bad because I've been lying to my husband and he has been so supportive of me.  I just dont want to keep hurting him and I guess I am afraid that he will leave me if he finds out that I still am using the hydrocodone.  I dont think that it bothered me so bad when I was getting them ligit from my doc, but now that I have obtained them through "other" means I'm REALLY scaird of where this is all going to end up.  I've gone this whole day without any because I ran out yesterday.  Used thirty in less than two days.  Today has been one of the crappiest of my life, but what's really scary is I know that there are many more days like this to come.  I also know that I have one refill left that I can pick up tomorrow morning...but then what?  I want this cycle to end soooooo badly and I know I can handle the WD on my own, I've done it several times over the past yr and have even gone as long as 4 months without.  THE DEPRESSION gets to be too much and I find that I'm "Hurting" again and need pain pills for something.  BOOM..it starts all over.  My husband says just to talk to him when I get to feeling that way, but it's just not the same.  I know he doe'snt truly understand what I'm going through because he has never had an addiction.  He's supportive and he listens, but I know he get's tired of hearing about it.  Please respond and let me know that I'm not nuts and that I CAN do this!!!
Thanks for listening
Tate

[roro]

Hey Tate, I just started writing in this forum today too.  I am in the same situation as you are.  I have two kids and am addicted to vicoprophen 34 pills a day.  I am trying very hard to get off of these and in the last 24 hours i have only taken 5.  I want more than life to get clean.  I need all the help i can get .  I have been through the withdrawals as long as 3 days but could never handle the pain and always went back.  I am determined this time not only for me but my kids need me to be a better person.  If anyone has any tips on how to get through this or any words of encouragement please feel free to write

[angst]

Welcome to the forum.  If you post higher, like on the top brand new thread, you will get more advice - experience strenght and hope.  If not,  I try to visit you guys down here.  Ava

[latinophil]

I have been addicted to codiene phosphate for 7 years, it controls my life and i can't find a way out of it.........It started when i got injured playing soccer, i was prescribed solpadol (codiene 30mg and paracetemol 500mg), for the pain, i was depressed at the time and the buzz from taking these pills for the first time took away my depression.  The doctor though kept me on these for 3 months and then changed my prescription to codiene phosphate 30mg tablets, because he wanted me to have no more paracetemol.  He kept me on codiene for a further 3 months by which time i was having 6 or 7 tablets 4 times a day and then started to support my habit by buying over the counter medicines, these were co-codemol (codiene 8mg paracetemol 500mg) and nurofen plus (codiene 12.8mg ibuprofen 200mg) i would take 4 co-codemol and 6 nurofen plus at a time, this began to make me feel sick all the time and give me pains in the stomach.
I have seen a doctor recently who now knows about my problem and gave me a reducing course of codiene, but it isn't working as again i find myself supplimenting thse with over the counter medicines.  No-one in my family knows, i feel alone in trying to stop taking these drugs and the doctor can't help me because the over the counter medicines are available freely.  
What do i do? how can i stop this before it kills me?

I am asking for help, i am scared to go cold turkey because of the way i will feel, i know this because i did try and stop and believe me it felt like ****.

Help me please.....................

[No2sis]

IM looking for help. my sister is taking lots of loritab. she is also epiletic. she is hearing things and seeing little men. she may take other pills I do not know of. Is she an addict???

[No2sis]

IM looking for help. my sister is taking lots of loritab. she is also epiletic. she is hearing things and seeing little men. she may take other pills I do not know of. Is she an addict???

[taeme]

Here's the truth of it. Most are looking here for advice on how and where to get what we want.  How to convince Dr's etc... we have what we say we have.  And then how to get the meds we want without them catching on.  Do you feel that male or female Dr.s seem to be more skeptical?  I don't know how everyone got started often I think it has to do with under medicating in the first place.  I sometimes wish darvocet had never been invented, for me I would rather take an 800mg Ibuprofen for all its worth. I am so frustrated finding a physician that doesn't try to placate me with a fancy named prescription for robitussin.  I'm quite educated in the medical field and things like this really erk me.  If I seem too educated I seem like a drug seeker, if I'm too weak I get tylenol and plenty of fluids.  I tired of spending my money with repeated visits.  If they know you just came in and then ask you to come back the next day after you've just called to say the medicine isn't working, do they not believe you? Especially if they have already done tests and cultures the first time?  Should we not be able to ask for what works? What if we happen to know a lot about medicine should we play dumb for fear of being labelled an addict, a drug seeker?  I often wonder if Darvocet is given when they don't believe you but are afraid to blatantly deny you pain meds? Maybe darvocet does something for some of you, I don't know.  Is it okay for me to let the Dr. know that even though I am hurting I can't afford(out of pocket, no insurance) to come in and try all the intermediary medication because he/she feel I may be a drug seeker.   The intermediary medications are what I call the fluff medications, you would have been better off grabbing yourself a bottle of niquil cold and fluid medicine.  I don't know if its my age(female 25),my problems(migraines, backpain, kidney stones----of course these are all over a long period of time)I guess these fall into the "watch for addicts" diagnoses.  I never had this much trouble when I was younger.  Maybe I don't know what a normal patient is supposed to do.  All I know is that when I was younger I hadn't tried as many medications, I know what doesn't work, and in general if they are in the same class they won't work either. Why should I have to pay for a medicine I know probably won't work just cause they need to see that I am not just seeking narcotics.  Now I'm just getting mad so I'll stop rambling and ask you opinion.  I know I said a lot but try and answer anything you can, I really am very frustrated.  Thanks.

[sinner]

Hello,

I wonder if anyone could help me. I am addicted to solpadol. I have a trapped nerve in my back and have tried various things to get better. Physio, osteopath, ultrasound and accupunture. I used to take pain killers occasionally to help out with tough days. A family menber is on solpadol and gave me some to see how I did with them. It helped a great deal and before I knew it I was taking them every day, even when I didn't have pain. As I am not actually perscribed the drug, I have been taking it from my family member who now finds themself short at the end of the month. I feel so guilty about this, but I just can't help it. I think they are aware of my increasing dependancy of solpadol as they have started hiding it from me.
I am also on anti depressants and when I can get hold on any solpadol, I slip further in to my depression. I need solpadol to get me through the day. I can't go to my doctor as I have never been pesribed the drug and do not want to get my family menber in trouble for giving it to me. I feel trapped.
Please help

Sinner

[sinner]

Hello,

I wonder if anyone could help me. I am addicted to solpadol. I have a trapped nerve in my back and have tried various things to get better. Physio, osteopath, ultrasound and accupunture. I used to take pain killers occasionally to help out with tough days. A family menber is on solpadol and gave me some to see how I did with them. It helped a great deal and before I knew it I was taking them every day, even when I didn't have pain. As I am not actually perscribed the drug, I have been taking it from my family member who now finds themself short at the end of the month. I feel so guilty about this, but I just can't help it. I think they are aware of my increasing dependancy of solpadol as they have started hiding it from me.
I am also on anti depressants and when I can get hold on any solpadol, I slip further in to my depression. I need solpadol to get me through the day. I can't go to my doctor as I have never been pesribed the drug and do not want to get my family menber in trouble for giving it to me. I feel trapped.
Please help

Sinner

[lisabet]

Hi sinner - welcome to the forum.  I suggest when you post to post on one of the top threads so everyone will see your post.  Down here on the bottom, many people don't look at.  I'm sorry I have no knowledge about solpadol, but I'm betting there's someone on the forum that can help.  Just post up at the top. Theres lots of good people here.  Hope you can find the information and help you desire.  Best wishes, Lisabet