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Alternate Pain Reliever
As I was going through my detox (and totally freaking out) my Dr. gave me a medicine called Neurontin also know as Gabapentin. This is an anticonvulsant (epilepsy) med. But it has A LOT of "off- label" use. It is generally a safe drug to take. No high, no addiction. I have been taking it for a couple weeks. I did stop for 2 days but started again because I found I felt worse without it. The bad thing is it can make you have a little vertigo or stagger. But they claim this subsides in a couple weeks. PLEASE check out this site. Especially some of you with chronic pain WW Broken Bones and any other suffering. See what you think and talk to your Dr. Actually I approached my Dr. as I found out about this drug doing research. And he thought it would be a great idea. Although he didn't think to suggest it. Here is the site. http://web.tampabay.rr.com/lymecfs/neurontin01.htm
You can go to several different pages talking about the benefits and off label use of this drug. I just know like many of you I suffer with chronic pain. But I can't manage my meds. "When 1 would do I take 2" and so forth. So this hopefully will be of great interest to you. It is also suppose to help with withdrawls which I found to be true. I didn't realize how much it helps until I stopped taking it for a couple days. Another drug which can only be used occasionally and during extreme flare ups is METHYLPRED PAK (generic for MEDROL) This is an cortizone/steriod pak. You start the first day with 6, second day 5 and down to 1. It is GREAT if your pain is out of control due to inflammation.Good Luck
Shea
You can go to several different pages talking about the benefits and off label use of this drug. I just know like many of you I suffer with chronic pain. But I can't manage my meds. "When 1 would do I take 2" and so forth. So this hopefully will be of great interest to you. It is also suppose to help with withdrawls which I found to be true. I didn't realize how much it helps until I stopped taking it for a couple days. Another drug which can only be used occasionally and during extreme flare ups is METHYLPRED PAK (generic for MEDROL) This is an cortizone/steriod pak. You start the first day with 6, second day 5 and down to 1. It is GREAT if your pain is out of control due to inflammation.Good Luck
Shea
Hi myname is Tommy, i have 9 disk in my back trashed and my aorta to both illiac arteries is completly blocked. Finally after just about pain med from vicodin to opana i found thet my 60 mg of methadone and my percocet 3 times a day is thhe best relif i have found so far.
These are prescribed from a pain clinic and i do get procedures which i recommend highly.
Ask ur dctor about facets , i have to get radio frequency on my neck and blocks on my lower spine but this combination is helping alot
These are prescribed from a pain clinic and i do get procedures which i recommend highly.
Ask ur dctor about facets , i have to get radio frequency on my neck and blocks on my lower spine but this combination is helping alot
HI EVERYONE,I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMENTS. BUT MOST OF ALL YOUR COURAGE! WITHOUT YOUR HONESTY AND OTHER SUPPORT GROUPS OUT THERE I WOULD BE LONG-GONE.TODAY I HAVE HOPE.MY HOPE COMES FROM MY BEING HONEST AND INFORMED.AFTER REALIZING THAT THERE WERE NO MAGIC PILLS OUT THERE,I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS HELP.I AM A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND CHEMICAL DEPENDENT. SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST AND CAREFUL WITH EVERYTHING I INGEST.MY HEEL AND BACK PAIN AFTER A FALL AND MANY SURGERIES YEARS AGO HAS PUT ME IN A POSITION TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND FIGHT OFF THE PAIN AS BEST I CAN.NOW WE ALL KNOW ABOUT SIDE AFFECTS AND MY EXPERIENCE IS TEACHING ME HOW TO USE WHATS MOST EFFECTIVE FOR MY PAIN WITH THE LEAST POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS INCLUDING ADDICTION. FIRST LET ME SHARE MY EXPIERENCE WITH SERZONE AND WELLBUTRIN.THESE TWO MEDICATIONS WERE PERSCRIBED TO ME FOR DEPRESSION.IT TOOK MANY MONTHS AND HIGHER DOSAGES TO REALIZE THAT BOTH OF THESE MEDICATIONS CAUSED ARTHRALGIA (JOINT PAIN) AND MYALGIA (MUSCLE PAIN).MY MUSCLE,JOINT AND BONE PAIN BECAME SO PAINFUL THAT IT CREATED MORE DEPRESSION.SO GUESS WHAT THE DR. PERSCRIBED AND OF COURSE BY NOT KNOWING,I AGREED TO HIGHER DOSAGES.THE RESULTS, MORE PHYSICAL PAIN MORE EMOTIONAL PAIN.OF COURSE I HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY, BUT WHEN I DISCONTINUED THESE MEDICATIONS THE UNBEARABLE PAIN IN THE AFFECTED AREAS STOPPED.GO FIGURE!!CURRENTLY I AM TAKING 10 MGS OF AMBIEN TO SLEEP,1 TO 2 TABS OF OXYCONDIN FOR PAIN COMBINED WITH 200 TO 300 MGS OF ULTRAM.IF I TAKE THESE MEDS AND DO NOT ABUSE THEM I SEEM TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THE PAIN WITHOUT THE SIDE EFFECTS DESTROYING MY LIFE.I'M LOOKING FOR NEW AND MORE INFOMATION ABOUT BETTER MEDS OR NATURAL WAYS TO CONTROL PAIN WITH LESS ADDICTIVE FORMS OF RELIEF. PLEASE DO NOT DEPEND ON THE DR FOR ALL THE ANSWERS.I DID AND NOW REALIZE ITS UP TO ME TO RESEARCH EVERYTHING I TRY.PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPIERENCE,STRENGTH AND HOPE WITH ME AS I CONTINUE TO ASK GOD TO USE ME AS AN INSTRUMENT OF HIS POWER,HIS LOVE AND HIS WAY OF LIFE TO OVER-COME MY DIFFICULTIES.POWER AND PEACE TO YOU ALL------------SLOWBUTSURE
I only have words to comfort you. Yes, there are a lot of people here that battle with bad physical and emotional pains. I just recently got off of the oc's myself.I still take darvocet though. I feel guilty for it and will- for a while until I learn. I wish I had the wisdom to pour out to you, but I am not so wise myself when it comes to the dragon. Please stay for a while and let someone have a chance to help you.
I am 19 and on 40mgs 5 times a day. I have deg. disk disease, the love of my life left me b/c of my medical problem I have no friends b/c i never feel good i'm going insane and need help. Does anyone know a good detox center. luckily my parents are willin g to send me anywhere. if you saw me you probably would too. never knew there was people like me. Does anyone know ANYONE who has gotten of oxys and is now happy. the doctor told me that after I get off the medication my back pain would decrease. is that true. I think about killing myself everyday. what's the point of living if pain encompasses your body like a ******* python. I have everything going for me if i didn't hjave pain I'm about to go to the emergency room to get more drugs for my muscles. I'm so young and feel like i'm eighty. please help. i live in san clemente ca if anyone knows where that is. just dropped out of school from santa cruz. i hate this guys.
I read your comment re Meg Patterson and electrical acupuncture units--the "black box" used to detox the rock stars. Dr. Meg isn't dead. She had a stroke and now her husband and son handle all inquires. The detox clinic they started is still running in Mexico although unless you speak Spanish, don't bother calling.
These electrical units are very different than TENS. They use a lower current and go by microcurrent electrotherapy or cranial electrical therapy. The current is at a similar level to the normal electricity across cells and is healing. The higher currents just block pain temporarily. These increase Seritonin and Endorphins according to many good studies, which help to counter withdrawal. This is a much safer way to detox than using any kind of psychotropic drug. I've seen those leave people in worse shape than before they got treatment. My brother got introduced to benzos in rehab for alcohol and now we can't get him away from the benzos! Antidepressents worked for a while until he peaked out on effective doses.
There are 2 units available in the US that are microcurrent devices. There are a few outpatient clinics that have them that are getting better results than any traditional program I've seen. We just started using them for treatment last year and have been amazed by the results. We have tried to present them to other rehab places, but haven't gotten a lot of interest.I guess they like repeat customers! Another very important part of what Dr. Meg did was take patients off of all psychotropics substances at once (that includes caffine and nicotene.) It seems the brain does best at getting the neurotransmitters back to normal with these units when they are not being interfered with by other chemicals. There is more info on our website TKWolf.com if interested. I'd like more info on your backround with electrical units. ( I am not trying to push any product here--we are in this business to help people and have yet to make any $ from it! We would just like to see treatment available that WORKS!)
Barb
These electrical units are very different than TENS. They use a lower current and go by microcurrent electrotherapy or cranial electrical therapy. The current is at a similar level to the normal electricity across cells and is healing. The higher currents just block pain temporarily. These increase Seritonin and Endorphins according to many good studies, which help to counter withdrawal. This is a much safer way to detox than using any kind of psychotropic drug. I've seen those leave people in worse shape than before they got treatment. My brother got introduced to benzos in rehab for alcohol and now we can't get him away from the benzos! Antidepressents worked for a while until he peaked out on effective doses.
There are 2 units available in the US that are microcurrent devices. There are a few outpatient clinics that have them that are getting better results than any traditional program I've seen. We just started using them for treatment last year and have been amazed by the results. We have tried to present them to other rehab places, but haven't gotten a lot of interest.I guess they like repeat customers! Another very important part of what Dr. Meg did was take patients off of all psychotropics substances at once (that includes caffine and nicotene.) It seems the brain does best at getting the neurotransmitters back to normal with these units when they are not being interfered with by other chemicals. There is more info on our website TKWolf.com if interested. I'd like more info on your backround with electrical units. ( I am not trying to push any product here--we are in this business to help people and have yet to make any $ from it! We would just like to see treatment available that WORKS!)
Barb
I did just about everything,,,,as far as dance goes,,,let me tell you,,,my aunt that owns the dance studios has been teaching since 1960 the year I was born,,,whe is not 61 years old I believe and she is the best i have ever seen her I think...she pust on 3 recitals each year 3 nights in a row and she dances at least 4 or 5 numbers.. tap, jazz, ballet, anything you name it she can do it....fiiiiiiine wine LOL...ok now let me shimmy on down the basement...showers for the kids Alec my 3 year old is having some dental work done under general anesthesia tomorrow..am I a nervous wreck? understatement.......love to al cin
Yah...back surgery just plain ol' SUCKS. I hate pain.
I have been on flexeril, but I hate the way it makes me feel. Totally doped up and that dry mouth and dulled brain just makes me feel so crappy. What about Robaxin? Is that addictive?
Kip, yep...I know what you mean about that horrid waiting game.
I've spent the entire summer on the couch. The whole three months. And I still hurt worse than before the surgery. I'm worried that the surgery made me worse, not better. I don't know what I'll do if that is the case. Along with being a shrink I'm a dancer. Middle eastern dance is a HUGE part of my life. I perform, I teach, it is my passion...and if I have to give that up, I'll be extremely upset. It has been hard enough being away from it for three months. Before the surgery I just used a ton of pain pills to be able to dance.
I go back to work a week from tomorrow, and can hardly wait to get my life back to normal. I know I'll ***** and moan about being busy again...LOL...and I don't love getting up at 5:30am, but I've seen enough of my couch.
love,
WW
I have been on flexeril, but I hate the way it makes me feel. Totally doped up and that dry mouth and dulled brain just makes me feel so crappy. What about Robaxin? Is that addictive?
Kip, yep...I know what you mean about that horrid waiting game.
I've spent the entire summer on the couch. The whole three months. And I still hurt worse than before the surgery. I'm worried that the surgery made me worse, not better. I don't know what I'll do if that is the case. Along with being a shrink I'm a dancer. Middle eastern dance is a HUGE part of my life. I perform, I teach, it is my passion...and if I have to give that up, I'll be extremely upset. It has been hard enough being away from it for three months. Before the surgery I just used a ton of pain pills to be able to dance.
I go back to work a week from tomorrow, and can hardly wait to get my life back to normal. I know I'll ***** and moan about being busy again...LOL...and I don't love getting up at 5:30am, but I've seen enough of my couch.
love,
WW
Hey there, I used to be a dancer...many many moons ago....my aunt is a proessional,,,she used to dance in NY and tour...I believe she dance with the June taylor dancers years ago do you remember them from the old Jackie Gleason show? **** now I am really dating myself....LOL I know what you mean about the flexeril thy have made me really groggy....i hate them,,now my husband is so used to them the doen't phase him.....I have tried robaxin, parafon, soma,,,,those do seem to have some potential for addiction,,,anymore what doesn't....somas are really addicting...I have never abused them...I get to the point where I can't function on them.....can only take them at night....hw much good do muscle relaxers really do anyway..I never noticed much of a differencebut doug swears by them .....(my husband) abut he is a guy that can get by on 1 oxy every 24 hours and never think about even trying to abuse them....and he is in recovery from coke and alcohol which is a whole story in itself...he has been clean for 11 years and never exceeds his dose of pain meds...the only time he runs out early is when i take em...actually, it has been in the back of my mind if he indeed is really an addict or was it just a phase of his life as a teen that he got caught up in stuff...no parental guidance,,,etc. a bad kid LOL he just grew up....he doesn't struggle with staying clean like I do.....taking the exact dose of my mes is really a very hard thing to do like skipper says.....anyway...ok,,,now i am starting to babble like a brook..take care love to all cin
Hey Cin..what kind of dance did you used to do?
the cool thing about middle eastern dance (ok, ok, yes, it is bellydance!) is that the older the women are who do it, the more respect they get as artists. It is really true. One of my favorite teachers way back when I was a baby dancer used to always say "A dancer who is under 40 can be good, but will never be great, because until you are at least 40, you haven't lived long enough to really have anything to dance about" LOL
I don't know if I agree with him on that or not, I'll find out in a year when I turn 40...but I love knowing that there is a dance form where age is seen as an added benefit. In Egypt, the best dancers, and the most famous ones, tend to be age 45 or so. Until that age, they are just "building their career". So see? It gets better..we are like fiiiiiine wine. :-)
ok..I'm off to try and unload the dishwasher. Until I can do that with no pain, no shimmies for me. lol
love,
WW
WW
the cool thing about middle eastern dance (ok, ok, yes, it is bellydance!) is that the older the women are who do it, the more respect they get as artists. It is really true. One of my favorite teachers way back when I was a baby dancer used to always say "A dancer who is under 40 can be good, but will never be great, because until you are at least 40, you haven't lived long enough to really have anything to dance about" LOL
I don't know if I agree with him on that or not, I'll find out in a year when I turn 40...but I love knowing that there is a dance form where age is seen as an added benefit. In Egypt, the best dancers, and the most famous ones, tend to be age 45 or so. Until that age, they are just "building their career". So see? It gets better..we are like fiiiiiine wine. :-)
ok..I'm off to try and unload the dishwasher. Until I can do that with no pain, no shimmies for me. lol
love,
WW
WW
during one of my waking periods in the wee small hours of the great Ohio nights,,,I was watching infomercials and yeppers it's true a TENS unit for body builders to increase their muscles....you put it on the muscles say your biceps....and turn that baby up full blast and of course you can see the damn muscle contracting and relaxing,,,they are now claiming that the muscle is growing I guess...Now, I am not positive that they are selling it as a TENS unit or under a different name,,,like Suzanne Sommers electical muscle buiding box or something but yep....it's true,,,my love to you and yours..................
hey you:
now let me get this clear- hooking up a tens unit where- to build
up what? yea i heard about all the "alternate uses."
there may indeed be something to electricly stimulated accupuncture
though. i've read real intresting reports of work done by Margret
Patterson. until she died she detoxed kieth richard about a half
dozen times. she also detoxed eric clapton and pete townsend with
this method. now befor you run out and buy a tens unit, hold on.
the tens unit does not function in the same way. the tens unit
blocks nerves from sending their ouch mesage. Margret Patterson
wrote a book called "Getting Off the Hook" if any one is intrested.
having worked in the field of electronics, i played around with
pulse generators and eeg electrode patches back in the early 80s.
got some intresting results, but never anything like Dr. patterson.
Good thing maybe-- could you see me slinking around with a HP
pulse generator and a head band of eeg electrodes!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
now let me get this clear- hooking up a tens unit where- to build
up what? yea i heard about all the "alternate uses."
there may indeed be something to electricly stimulated accupuncture
though. i've read real intresting reports of work done by Margret
Patterson. until she died she detoxed kieth richard about a half
dozen times. she also detoxed eric clapton and pete townsend with
this method. now befor you run out and buy a tens unit, hold on.
the tens unit does not function in the same way. the tens unit
blocks nerves from sending their ouch mesage. Margret Patterson
wrote a book called "Getting Off the Hook" if any one is intrested.
having worked in the field of electronics, i played around with
pulse generators and eeg electrode patches back in the early 80s.
got some intresting results, but never anything like Dr. patterson.
Good thing maybe-- could you see me slinking around with a HP
pulse generator and a head band of eeg electrodes!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
after reading your post above i had to get out of my lazy ghost
mode, and finally post something. you covered some things i've
been through just recently.
the wait and see about your back- isn't this one fun. the last surgery on my cervical spine was in may of this year. I didn't
get the "looks like it's going to be ok until last month. i won't
know until November if it was sucessful for sure. isn't this one
fun? not only did i get screwed out of summer, but i can spend
the fall in worry too. i have no insight in how to "do this strech
of time." time will pass, so i've tried to make the best of it.
about the tens unit-
don't buy one. they are incrediably exspensive, and there pain
relieveing value is dubious at best. when i've used one in the past
i got good results for about 10 days and then nothing. Rent or
lease one, preferably with an option of terminating lease whenever returned.
non addictive muscle relaxer- you and i and the rest of the whole
forum wants this. anthing that works well is going to have a cer-
tain amount of addiction potential to it. the closest thing to
an abuse-free one is flexeril (cyclobenzaprine). this drug is in
the phenothiozine family (phenergan, thorazine, etc). i've had
pretty good expierence using it. i use it instead of valium or
other benzo's, when i do a detox. as near as i can tell this
drug has very little addiction potential. i've also found that
taking more than 10mg. of flexerial, does nothing to increase
it's effect.
best of luck with all of this, i know as well as you what coming
back frome spinal surgery is to an addict! if you really want to
amuse yourself, get a copy of "Naked Lunch," by William S Bur-
roughs. it is an awfully demented, but hysterically funny in-
sight into opiate addiction. if this book is to visseral, you
might try Kentucky Ham, written by William Burroughs Jr. who
is more of the baby-boomer generation. i couldn't think of thru
a drug WD without one or the other.
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
mode, and finally post something. you covered some things i've
been through just recently.
the wait and see about your back- isn't this one fun. the last surgery on my cervical spine was in may of this year. I didn't
get the "looks like it's going to be ok until last month. i won't
know until November if it was sucessful for sure. isn't this one
fun? not only did i get screwed out of summer, but i can spend
the fall in worry too. i have no insight in how to "do this strech
of time." time will pass, so i've tried to make the best of it.
about the tens unit-
don't buy one. they are incrediably exspensive, and there pain
relieveing value is dubious at best. when i've used one in the past
i got good results for about 10 days and then nothing. Rent or
lease one, preferably with an option of terminating lease whenever returned.
non addictive muscle relaxer- you and i and the rest of the whole
forum wants this. anthing that works well is going to have a cer-
tain amount of addiction potential to it. the closest thing to
an abuse-free one is flexeril (cyclobenzaprine). this drug is in
the phenothiozine family (phenergan, thorazine, etc). i've had
pretty good expierence using it. i use it instead of valium or
other benzo's, when i do a detox. as near as i can tell this
drug has very little addiction potential. i've also found that
taking more than 10mg. of flexerial, does nothing to increase
it's effect.
best of luck with all of this, i know as well as you what coming
back frome spinal surgery is to an addict! if you really want to
amuse yourself, get a copy of "Naked Lunch," by William S Bur-
roughs. it is an awfully demented, but hysterically funny in-
sight into opiate addiction. if this book is to visseral, you
might try Kentucky Ham, written by William Burroughs Jr. who
is more of the baby-boomer generation. i couldn't think of thru
a drug WD without one or the other.
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
Hey KIP>>>>>>I see you ain't dead LOL me either,,,,,,,WW skipper is right.....and my husband takes flexeril....he has been on it for a very very long time and when he quit taking it for a brief 2 day period the only thing he experienced was sweating,,,excessively and if that was any type of withdrawal then i wish it were all that easy.....we are not even sure if that caused the sweating...UMMMMMMM maybe it was hot outside LOL I dunno,,anyway,,,it does help him the best....I also agree with skip on the TENS unit.....did u see where they are tying to sell them to increase the build up of your muscles? what next..........love to all cin
Hi Jules..
Thanks for asking..yes, I did go see my back Doc, who is also a pain specialist and I walked out of there crying.
Basically, he told me there was nothing more he can do for me till we know if my surgery failed or not, which will be another 3 months. He was ok with me off the vics, but offered me ultram instead (he told me it was a non addictive narcotic, and now considers me non compliant for not wanting to go on it..but I know better from reading this forum!). He told me that celebrex is not a good choice for me, given that my pain generator is not inflamation. He suggested renoven, which I'm not even sure what that is, I'm looking into it. He didn't want to try toradol. I refused narcotics. He did say that I should take the vicoprofen as needed, but that is just not something that I can handle at this point, and probably ever. I'm still taking it a day at a time.
I'm going to look into getting a tens unit.
Oddly, I've noticed that during withdrawals week, when I took the valium, it totally helped my back pain. I took another valium a few days ago for a killer migraine, and though it did nothing for the headache, it nuked the back pain waaaaay down.
Now, I do not want to go on valium regularly...don't want another addiction to creep up, but maybe there is a non addictive muscle relaxer that will help with the pain. That is the next thing I'm going to look into.
How are things going for you Jules? I'd love to know..
take care!
WW
Thanks for asking..yes, I did go see my back Doc, who is also a pain specialist and I walked out of there crying.
Basically, he told me there was nothing more he can do for me till we know if my surgery failed or not, which will be another 3 months. He was ok with me off the vics, but offered me ultram instead (he told me it was a non addictive narcotic, and now considers me non compliant for not wanting to go on it..but I know better from reading this forum!). He told me that celebrex is not a good choice for me, given that my pain generator is not inflamation. He suggested renoven, which I'm not even sure what that is, I'm looking into it. He didn't want to try toradol. I refused narcotics. He did say that I should take the vicoprofen as needed, but that is just not something that I can handle at this point, and probably ever. I'm still taking it a day at a time.
I'm going to look into getting a tens unit.
Oddly, I've noticed that during withdrawals week, when I took the valium, it totally helped my back pain. I took another valium a few days ago for a killer migraine, and though it did nothing for the headache, it nuked the back pain waaaaay down.
Now, I do not want to go on valium regularly...don't want another addiction to creep up, but maybe there is a non addictive muscle relaxer that will help with the pain. That is the next thing I'm going to look into.
How are things going for you Jules? I'd love to know..
take care!
WW
Gloria...
You are describing being in a classic abusive relationship. Please, please get some help for yourself. I know it is easier said than done, and that not everyone has the means to leave, but I fear for you. You didn't say if your boyfriend is physically abusing you, but you did describe classic emotional and verbal abuse. No wonder you are having panic attacks!
Go to your local mental health center, or wherever your disability insurance provides mental health care, and talk to a counselor. Domestic violence is taken very, very seriously these days. Tell someone what is going on and they will help you create a plan to get some help. And..please know...you don't have to be physically abused to be a sufferer of Domestic Violence. Domestic Violence is also defined as emotional and verbal abuse.
WW
You are describing being in a classic abusive relationship. Please, please get some help for yourself. I know it is easier said than done, and that not everyone has the means to leave, but I fear for you. You didn't say if your boyfriend is physically abusing you, but you did describe classic emotional and verbal abuse. No wonder you are having panic attacks!
Go to your local mental health center, or wherever your disability insurance provides mental health care, and talk to a counselor. Domestic violence is taken very, very seriously these days. Tell someone what is going on and they will help you create a plan to get some help. And..please know...you don't have to be physically abused to be a sufferer of Domestic Violence. Domestic Violence is also defined as emotional and verbal abuse.
WW
My name is Gloria, I have panic attacks off and on. This started happening with allot of stress in my life. My boyfriend has many problems and my friends are with many problems. They don't really have time to listen to my needs, but only care about their own needs. I feel very hurt inside. My boyfriend is always yelling at me, he smokes pot so much, with out his pot he does not act normal. He calls me *****, *****, your no good, if you did not have me noone would put up with you. He said you don't need to drive. I'm on state disability because of my condition. My childhood was no good I was beaten by my mother and unloved. My children have been taken from me by a policeman who had beaten me up and made a false report on me. The day my children were taken no social worker came for no visit. The officer who beat me up got away with abusing me. I was always the kind one to people and my children. My abusive mothers said bad things about me to prevent me from getting my children back from me. My mother has stolen my children, my children are still in long term foster care. My children has bonded with my abusive mother. I lost my children, and I never abused them. Someone called the police and must of told a story, today I don't know what was said about me. I 'am in pain and feel hurt. I have asked God for help, I feel alone and unloved at times. My panic attacks began when I first lost my children, then another thing happen in my life I got close to my friend son, girlfriend son, his name is Fernando. He is such a good boy, he would always share his toys and bring me a book to read, when I felt down he would be kind and say good words to me. His mother was on drugs so the CPS took Fernando away and his baby sister to a foster home. This made me once again get the panic attacks. I now need to be under medication because of the panic attacks when they come my way. This is so hard for me. If someone reads this please email me:
mothers_friend***@****
mothers_friend***@****
My name is Gloria, I have panic attacks off and on. This started happening with allot of stress in my life. My boyfriend has many problems and my friends are with many problems. They don't really have time to listen to my needs, but only care about their own needs. I feel very hurt inside. My boyfriend is always yelling at me, he smokes pot so much, with out his pot he does not act normal. He calls me *****, *****, your no good, if you did not have me noone would put up with you. He said you don't need to drive. I'm on state disability because of my condition. My childhood was no good I was beaten by my mother and unloved. My children have been taken from me by a policeman who had beaten me up and made a false report on me. The day my children were taken no social worker came for no visit. The officer who beat me up got away with abusing me. I was always the kind one to people and my children. My abusive mothers said bad things about me to prevent me from getting my children back from me. My mother has stolen my children, my children are still in long term foster care. My children has bonded with my abusive mother. I lost my children, and I never abused them. Someone called the police and must of told a story, today I don't know what was said about me. I 'am in pain and feel hurt. I have asked God for help, I feel alone and unloved at times. My panic attacks began when I first lost my children, then another thing happen in my life I got close to my friend son, girlfriend son, his name is Fernando. He is such a good boy, he would always share his toys and bring me a book to read, when I felt down he would be kind and say good words to me. His mother was on drugs so the CPS took Fernando away and his baby sister to a foster home. This made me once again get the panic attacks. I now need to be under medication because of the panic attacks when they come my way. This is so hard for me. If someone reads this please email me:
mothers_friend***@****
mothers_friend***@****
My name is Gloria, I have panic attacks off and on. This started happening with allot of stress in my life. My boyfriend has many problems and my friends are with many problems. They don't really have time to listen to my needs, but only care about their own needs. I feel very hurt inside. My boyfriend is always yelling at me, he smokes pot so much, with out his pot he does not act normal. He calls me *****, *****, your no good, if you did not have me noone would put up with you. He said you don't need to drive. I'm on state disability because of my condition. My childhood was no good I was beaten by my mother and unloved. My children have been taken from me by a policeman who had beaten me up and made a false report on me. The day my children were taken no social worker came for no visit. The officer who beat me up got away with abusing me. I was always the kind one to people and my children. My abusive mothers said bad things about me to prevent me from getting my children back from me. My mother has stolen my children, my children are still in long term foster care. My children has bonded with my abusive mother. I lost my children, and I never abused them. Someone called the police and must of told a story, today I don't know what was said about me. I 'am in pain and feel hurt. I have asked God for help, I feel alone and unloved at times. My panic attacks began when I first lost my children, then another thing happen in my life I got close to my friend son, girlfriend son, his name is Fernando. He is such a good boy, he would always share his toys and bring me a book to read, when I felt down he would be kind and say good words to me. His mother was on drugs so the CPS took Fernando away and his baby sister to a foster home. This made me once again get the panic attacks. I now need to be under medication because of the panic attacks when they come my way. This is so hard for me. If someone reads this please email me:
mothers_friend***@****
mothers_friend***@****
Hi Shea,
I just wanted to thank you for sharing your voice of experience, hope and strength. Your words help me make the choice every day to stay clean. I still have back pain and my Doc would fill my script anytime I asked. But I don't want to go down that route again.
I'm glad you are here!
love,
WW
I just wanted to thank you for sharing your voice of experience, hope and strength. Your words help me make the choice every day to stay clean. I still have back pain and my Doc would fill my script anytime I asked. But I don't want to go down that route again.
I'm glad you are here!
love,
WW
Hi,
Want to thank you all for the warm welcome I have received. Yesterday was one month clean of the forbidden fruit "vicoden".
I do miss them and still have hugh cravings, but a lot of will power too.
After I stopped I carried 2 pills in my purse and 7 oxy's in a bottle for the first 3 weeks. I was very tempted to take them but knew after they were gone there would be no more and no place to get them. Besides I didn't want to start over again on the initial detox. Since I have disposed of them. I go to the DR. today to find out results of blood work. As I have been severely nausea everyday since I stopped. And living on Zofran to help with the nausea. I pray I didn't do my liver in.
I was laughing at the stories of tearin the couch and car apart. I never did this as I was sure there were done to be found. But I also seemed to drop the behind this heavy ass dresser I have. And when I was low I would kill myself moving this ***** to find one or two.
I wish you all well today and hope your in good spirit.
Stay Strong!
Shea
Want to thank you all for the warm welcome I have received. Yesterday was one month clean of the forbidden fruit "vicoden".
I do miss them and still have hugh cravings, but a lot of will power too.
After I stopped I carried 2 pills in my purse and 7 oxy's in a bottle for the first 3 weeks. I was very tempted to take them but knew after they were gone there would be no more and no place to get them. Besides I didn't want to start over again on the initial detox. Since I have disposed of them. I go to the DR. today to find out results of blood work. As I have been severely nausea everyday since I stopped. And living on Zofran to help with the nausea. I pray I didn't do my liver in.
I was laughing at the stories of tearin the couch and car apart. I never did this as I was sure there were done to be found. But I also seemed to drop the behind this heavy ass dresser I have. And when I was low I would kill myself moving this ***** to find one or two.
I wish you all well today and hope your in good spirit.
Stay Strong!
Shea
Katie I am a little worried about you since you have not written today I hope you are taking care of yourself you sounded a little desperate in your last post please let me know you are ok!!! I am always here if you need me and you can e-mail me at coleybear229@aol
Shea, you are doing so great!!!! I am sure your strength will help so many others on this forum!! Again welcome
WW, just wanted to say Hi and I hope your pain is not too bad today. When do you go to the pain specialist?
Shea, you are doing so great!!!! I am sure your strength will help so many others on this forum!! Again welcome
WW, just wanted to say Hi and I hope your pain is not too bad today. When do you go to the pain specialist?
Katie, I posted this to you above, but I will post it again here, just to be sure you see it.
You could ask a doctor for an antidepressant, but I'd urge you to try the 5 HTP. You can get it at a health food store such as GNC or any vitamin store. It is an amino acid that is the direct precursor to seratonin, so it lets your body make more seratonin right away. With antidepressant meds, which I have been on and fully support, it takes several weeks to get the effect. With 5 HTP, the effect reached me in half an hour. It comes from a plant. There are no known side effects according the the original research studies that I have read. My doc says it is safe and good. A Psychiatrist I work with gives it to patients instead of prozac and is having excellent results.
Please, give it a try. I am convinced it is the reason that I am not struggling with the depression that is so common to those of us who are newly clean.
Also Katie, reach out to NA. It sounds like face to face support would really really help you right now.
I'll keep sending prayers and healing vibes your way. You can reach out and just know that I am sending love and light toward you. You CAN do this Katie...but don't try to do it alone..I don't think any of us can do it alone.
lots of love,
WW
You could ask a doctor for an antidepressant, but I'd urge you to try the 5 HTP. You can get it at a health food store such as GNC or any vitamin store. It is an amino acid that is the direct precursor to seratonin, so it lets your body make more seratonin right away. With antidepressant meds, which I have been on and fully support, it takes several weeks to get the effect. With 5 HTP, the effect reached me in half an hour. It comes from a plant. There are no known side effects according the the original research studies that I have read. My doc says it is safe and good. A Psychiatrist I work with gives it to patients instead of prozac and is having excellent results.
Please, give it a try. I am convinced it is the reason that I am not struggling with the depression that is so common to those of us who are newly clean.
Also Katie, reach out to NA. It sounds like face to face support would really really help you right now.
I'll keep sending prayers and healing vibes your way. You can reach out and just know that I am sending love and light toward you. You CAN do this Katie...but don't try to do it alone..I don't think any of us can do it alone.
lots of love,
WW
Thank you WW. Truthfully if your Dr would be willing to fill your script and you don't ask that shows what a Strong willed person you are. I think that gives more proof of what a great chance you have. I suffer with chronic pain every minute of everyday. But....then I see someone missing a leg. At that time that person is looking at someone who is missing both legs and is in a wheelchair. The person in the wheelchair is staring at the man paralysed in the bed and having such empathy. I am sure you see my analogy. There is ALWAYS someone in a worse place then we are. I truthfully believe each and everyone of us has more willpower than we credit ourselves for. We just need others to sometimes make us aware of that.
Shea
Shea
You are doing great remember this. The worst is about over. I am sure you are depressed. Withdrawals from narcotics causes the neurotransmitters in your brain to drop off. Your seratonin levels and endorphines are probably highly depleted. Taking narcotics for any period of time causes the brain to stop manufacturing it on it's own. The narcotics replace the natural ones, that's why you always feel better, happier when you first take them, than after a while no amount of pain meds will ever make you feel as good as they did the first time. It will take a few months for the natural ones to start up again. It might be a good idea to go on an antidepressent for awhile, to help increase the transmitters and endorphin levels. Exercise, no matter how much you hate it, will help this by releasing them in your system. This is one of the biggest reasons for relapse. You just feel like **** mentally. The pills always boost you for awhile. Thomas' receipe will help along with any exercise and recovery program. If you can, get someone to sponser you, so you will have someone to talk with when you feel you might slip. If you call any AA or NA meeting there is always someone to help you. No questions asked. But all you have to do is reach out and do what Witchy woman is doing.....one day at a time.....God Bless.....Susan
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