Anyone on subutex or suboxone right now. please tell me how you like it?

[ggin35]

Please share whatever side effects you have had on Sub. (either one) with me. And if your off of it, how did you taper? Thank you! Ggin35

[Oxyfried]

Sub's will stop cravings at the right dose. Trust me. I have been on them 2 years coming from 1,000mg's morphine or/and 300-400mg's of Oxy. It will work find the right dose or find a new doctor.

[DiEvano]

I've been detoxing off of heroin, and have found soboxone to be VERY helpful. I actually started my addiction on Oxy's, then one day I wasn't able to get any... and moved my drug of choice to dope. The buzz is pretty much the same, except Oxy's actually give you some sort of energy where dope you just pretty much nod the whole time. Anyway, Soboxone has helped me a lot. It helps with the withdraw pain, which can be the worst pain of someone's life. It's also helped me with the after effects. Because I know that if I take my Soboxone I can't get high... it makes that temptation a thing of the past. Yes, I still think about using, but it's not like it was when before I was treated with Soboxone. If you have anymore questions, please don't hesitate to write me. You can also check out my story on Daughter Detoxing From Herion... This is actually my mother's profile, but I use it.
Good Luck,
Carlie

[CarrieMe]

... I told you you will always want an oxy, that's not what soboxone is for, that's what counseling is for...

[OXYINAZ]

clp can it be started before you go into withdraws.  I have Sub. but I'm on day 2 without any withdraws and feeling really not too bad.  Th only thing is I'm craving the the OXy!

[clp92478]

If you are still out there and are still sick and struggling,please with your suboxon,dont wait as long as you can,take it,cut your sickness and cravings off at the pass. Thats what it is there for. I was doing a bundle++ a day plus OXY and percs and xanax and drinking a case a day coke,you name it garbage head.I detoxed with 5 days of meth,came out sick as a dog for 17 days before they put me on suboxon,but i did it!!!!! The day i got my suboxon,my life changed,I nodded at first and thought oh no not again(or oh boy I am nodding again!)but it went away in 2 or 3 days,I slept for the first time,cravings for the dope went away eventualy, with in a month i would say. Do NOT wait as long as you can to take a pill,this is a preventitive drug.I would also recommend NA,if there is anywhere in the world you can go where they will understand what you are going through and NOT judge you and help you to stay cleanand figure out why,it is NA. I now have 6 months and 16 days clean and I HAVE MY SON! Nothing more important. I pray for you and all the addicts out there struggling. If anyone needs anything feel free to email me.

[NYCSICK]

I AM USING ABOUT A BUDDLE A DAY, NYC BUDDLE. AND IAM HAVING TROUBLE SWITCHING TO SUBOXONE I GET REALLY SICK, I WAIT AS LONG AS I CAN BUT THE SUBOXONE DOSNT HOLD ME WHAT AM I DOING WRONG. I CANT STOP USING. I DID GET IT ONCE A WHILE AGO WHEN I WAS USING ABOUT 4 BAGS A DAY AND THEN IT TOOK ABOUT 2 DAY BEFORE IT REALY KICKED IN. I AM AFRAID I BURNT OUT MY RECEIPTORS.
REALLY SICK

[RCSLADY]

Tomorrow I have my appointment with the sub. doctor.  I am a little hesitant about taking it but I really want to start feeling better.  I don't even know what choices he will give me and the initial appointment cost $400.00.  It seems like it works for alot of people and is better than methadone.  

I've been reading up on it and I must say it does look like a solution for me anyway.

[lil_addict]

Hey sweetie,
I'm so glad you are doin' ok.  I looked up sub in my area and only one doc does it.  We can afford it anyways but damn, i really wish i could do it.  I feel like total **** right now ughhhh!!!  Beachtowel, I need a poshpuff now lol...  I can't give you any advice on this one ggin but i wanted you to know that i'm here for ya and you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Hugz,

Lil.

[FLaddict]

DId you ever stop to think the aminos are taking your cravings away???  I will admit... I kind of tricked you... but for a good reason.. I knew once they got into your system you would start to need less and less of the Sub... I have been seeing you post about not needing as much. and was gonna wait to tell you but I can't any longer... actually I was gonna wait til you were off... I even asked Gypseygirl if I should tell you yet... this stuff really works.. you and I are proof of that... keep it up you should be off the Sub in no time..

XOXO

PS... hope you aren't mad..

[fishmeal]

Wow, thanx for that information I really need this because it seems so very strong to me... I'll go take a look at that site now and I think you should post this as a new thread on top.  

thanx again
Jim

[days_between]

Hello all
I was on suboxone for almost a year started out at 16mg. It was amazing at first. I thought I had found a wonder drug to take all the wds away. My drug of choice was always heroin and I would shoot it up. So suboxone at first was a blessing, but after about 8 months it turned its back on me. I started getting massive headaches. I decided to taper myself down because the headaches were so bad. So I got down to 2mg after a bit of time. When I got down to 2mg thats when the fun began. My wds from 2 mg down were about as bad as my heroin wds. Not as intense but lasted much much longer.

Be very careful with buprenorphine. It is very strong. Here is a conversion chart. As you can see 1mg of buprenorphine is 25mg of morphine.

http://www.medcalc.com/narcotics.html

[fishmeal]

That was quite a story Mom hadn't had the whole picture.  GG glad you are doing well on it. and FLA I'm flabbergasted today because it's weird, I don't even want the sub!  I did about 10mgs today and that will be it for the day.  I not anything I'm trying to do?  I just don't want it??? really really weird!
best to all

did anyone notice that some of the names are highlighted on the right side... people that commented???

[mom2rachie]

I just read though that the symptoms of taking too much subutex are headaches (which I get but I also suffer from migraines so I'm not sure if this is from the Sub), nausea, over-sedation type symptoms like weakness, dizziness, fatigue and lethargy (totally me). Anxiety is also a major sign of taking too much.  I don't have that though.  I am ging to take a 2mg slice in a little while as I don't feel like I need it right now at all.
I sleep like a baby.  I am being very careful not to take it just because I am allowed to because I have read about some horror stories.  I think as long as I keep under the 2 week mark, the w/d shold be minimal.
How long have you been on it?

I think she is on Subutex not Suboxone.....

[FLaddict]

After the first few days taking it every 12-24 hours help break the cycle of taking pills..at that point it has built up in your system.. you do not need to take it every 6 hours..
Tapering is easy with Sub... every couple days drop a mg or two... I tapered down to 0.5mgs for the two days before I stopped.. I was literally taking a crumb.. it still worked.. and kept me from having wd from the sub itself...

I will say that it helped me.. and using it correctly is  important... I will say however that I did not like being on it... felt racy thoughts sometimes had head aches. and would sometimes get really tired and even nod out in bed.. I think it affects everyone different... I took Subutex for most of the time and then Suboxone for the last couple days of my taper...(just what the doc gave me)  I only took less than 5 pills total in the 10 days...

[mom2rachie]

I think if I would hjave taken 16 I would have been comatose!! (sp??)

My story.....  it's pretty boring as I've conditioned myself these days to realize that I am not unique, special MAYBE but definitely not unique.

Anyway, I'm a 33 year old mother of a beautiful 10 month old little girl, married to my high school sweetheart, former professional entertainment paralegal, now a professional homemaker.
I'm 5 years clean from alcohol and coke and pot.  As a daughter of an alcoholic I knew starting to drink in my teens would potentially be aproblem, but of course,it wasn't going to happen to me.  So after years and YEARS of drinking to excess (not necessarily every day but when I drank I DRANK), I discovered cocaine and that it was a wonderful little tool to help me stay awake so I could, guess what?? DRINK more ....
No arrests, no jail, no DUI, no accidents YET....I just woke up one morening from a normal night out, no better or no worse than any other night, and looked in the mirror and said either I get help today or I kill myself.  I went to my first AA meeting that night and haven't touched a drink or any other illegal substance since.
AA saved me in every sense of the word.  It savedmy life, my finances, my relationships, made them 10 times better, allowed me to like myself again, and allowed me to get to know a GOD that I didn't have to fear, one that I could turn to when I needed His help.
Fast forward to about a yea ago, give or take.  I was pregnant with a horrible pregnancy, 3 herniated discs, massive migraines and 2 car accidents under my belt; one at 6 months pregnancy and the other at 9 months.
I was prescribed vics 5/500 during my entire pregnancy because the pain was unbearable.  I was fine taking them.  I had no dependence, I was honest with everyone includingmy sponsor and I even managed to stop 6 weeks before I gave borth as to avoid her addiction.  She was born healthy and perfect.  I had a radical episiotomy, which without going into too much detail is basically RIPPING one from end to end and was prescribed percs 5/325.  I refilled that 4 times because of the pain.  Then my back wnt out again and I was unable to walk, couldn't even hold my daughter so I started seeing a ortho who was all too happy to dish out 90 10mg percs every 2 weeks... then the dr shopping, the buying off the street blah blah blah.  I was clean for about 2 months then started upa gain.  
My relapse was very slow but gradual.  I stopped going to meetings, stoppeed being honest with people, isolated myself and it was all to justify my "need" for these pills and all the while making up more reasons I was in pain for some reason or another.
Again after spending a ridiculous amount of money and time on these little things, I woke up and decided that was it.  I canot take time off from being a mom to go c/t as I don't have much help so I started Subutex.....
It's a miracle as far as I'm concerned but I do have to watch how much I still enjoy the pill taking ritual and I have to watch how I want tot ake more than I have to out of habit.  I need to get off these things quick so I don't get addicted to something else.  I am in the right mindset as I want my life back despertely.
I pray that it will work for me.....
and for all of us!!

[fishmeal]

I was first on it during formal detox 16mgs a day.  The doc there, asked me if I wanted more and I said no.  I was on it for 5 weeks then came off... didn't do the taper thing just used 16mgs a day until it was gone.... then after two weeks of feeling drabby I went to a psych and he was the long taper kind of guy and he put me back on,... believe me, I wanted something!  i had no energy and I hated just, "hanging around waiting for better" So now I've been on for about 3 weeks at 16 or so mgs.  I have some problems that I'm facing, (DUI) and used that as an excuse to go back on I guess.  I am sure that I would have used something, so at least this is legal.  Do I like it?  Yes I like the feeling but I am worried about long term.  I have made a pact with myself that I would not go longer than a year but that's like how we all say, "this is the last one." tell me more about your story?

[ggin35]

I have been sleeping since I posted this message. I have been on Sub. since the 4th. I am going to start tapering tommorow I think. So far I haven't really liked the drug. Today though, after my sleeping for nearly two days, I feel ok. Thank you for all of your posts! I was just really curious to see how Sub. effects everyone else. Just as I thought, we are all different! Oh, forgot to add, I have only been on Subutex so far. Not Suboxone. I don't know if the doc is planning on switching me to Suboxone or not. If he does I will give that one a try. (((Hugs))) Ggin35

[fishmeal]

I have heard that people have had trouble with suboxone which has the additive, (like anti-abuse) where as subutex is the straight stuff.

[fishmeal]

I'm like MOM about the luv thing but I am still worried about latter when I have to come off.  For me, it's like being normal in every way... even motivation is up.  I sleep great............. all of that stuff.

I'm so sorry you are having trouble... did you try subutex rather than the suboxone?

[mom2rachie]

Were you in full withdrawals when you started it?
I hadn't taken a perc for 13 hours before I started it.  Itook the first one, instantly felt better, waited 20 minutes and took another half, a 4 mg half.  I went home, waited about 4 hours, took another half and then another half right before bed even though I really didn't need it, I just wanted to make sure I slept ok.  
I am very tired all the time but other than that no anxiousness at all.......
How long have you been on it?

[mom2rachie]

Hi there.  Are you still having a hard time with it?
I have to tell you that I absolutely LOVE it.  I might love it too much.  I have been on since Thursday morning.  I took 16 mg Thurs, 12 Friday, 8 yesterday, so far none today.... I want to be off within 2 weeks so I might take 8 for the next 2 days, then 6 for 3 then 4 for 3 then 2 for 3 then off.
I know if I took less I would still be able to function quite normally.  I get a euphoric feeling when it first disolves.  The first time I took it, it was glorious, it removed ALL my pain immediately.  
My only side effect is that it makes me almost stoned and very sluggish.  I'm on Subutex though not Suboxone.
How many mg are you on and are you taperin gyet?