Be Strong people you can do it

[Chi_Chi_Lover]

Guys it I know how hard it is to think of giving up your addiction. I did a fast taper then went cold turkey 11 months ago, I had horrible WD's for 2 weeks. Aniexy, depression, restless leg, no sleep etc. I felt like I wanted to die but I wanted to kick the 30 10mg a day Hydro habit more. I did use some small doses of xananx twice a day for a month and ambien to sleep for about 6 months. I just didn't and don't understand the Suboxone or Methadone. It seems like you are trading one opiate addiction for another. And some people have to stay on those drugs for life. I just don't understand. I'm not putting anyone down for doing what they have to or using any tools to get over the addiction. I'm just saying it can be done. You are going to feel like **** and like you are losing your mind for a long amount of time but with some strenght you can do it if you want to. I always find great help in this forum.  Just know that everyone's WD are different. Some seem to get through them in a few days and others like myself it takes a few months. But I have my life back and I'm very proud of myself for that.

[GoingToMakeIt]

Good post and Great job on 11 months!

[MizDemeanor]

Thanks Chi Chi. It's good to hear. I was doing the same doc as you only about a 1/3 as much. Ive only been without the vic's for a week. Sometimes I do feel like whats the use but I know that I have to do it. I appreciate posts like yours.
Peace.

[Jacqui805]

Thanks for your support and congratulations on your huge 11 months.  You said it all when you said that it's different for all of us.  That's why it's so important to some here, for support yes, and to tell your story, 'cause chances are, one of us can relate and it'll help us too.  Great job.

[oxygirl487]

congrats on 11 months.....how long did it take u to feel normal?....by that i mean like u were b4 pills if that is even possible.....im 2.5 months clean and i feel so weird its hard to describe...its like ive been asleep for 5 yrs and im just now waking up to realize life sux lol......

[desperate1111]

Thank you for the inspiration and congratulations!!!. I don't post or socialize much, mainly read. I am 30 days free from trams and hydros. This site and the people here motivate and inspire me every day. Thanks to all.

[Chi_Chi_Lover]

It probably took me about 4-6 months to feel fairly normal. I would say 9 months to feel really good and whole if that makes sense. I have delt with depression most of my adult life and I am 41. I have to say that finally being off all opiates I feel better that I have ever felt. I had a huge addiction for 4 years so it wasn't going to be a week or two for me to feel better. You are probably still having a lot of aniexty and some of that is from not sleeping well I'm sure. It will get better just takes months

[oxyaddict420]

First off congrats to your success on being vlean for almost a year.. THAT IS GREAT!!!

I just want to explain a little about suboxone.  Like you have stated yourself everyone is different.  So when you read a post or two here and there about someone who is getting withdrawl symptoms from suboxone, that doesn't mean that it should just be thrown into the list of just exchanging one drug for another catagory.  There are alot of people right here on mehelp that post almost everyday that can inform you on the details of their suboxone experiences.  People use suboxone for many many different reasons.. See my post on the suboxone confusion for more details on that.. Also suboxone should not just be lumped into the catagory along with methadone either.

Methadone is just a pure narcotic that is very addictive and has horrible withdrawls due in part to the half-life..  Suboxone is a completely DIFFERENT DRUG!  It is Subutex which yes is a narcotic opiate, but then has naloxone in it.. This is used to make sure that you cannot get high with this drug. When you take subutex alone it can get you high, but not along with naloxone.. That is why suboxone is unique.  The naloxone keeps the person from abusing other painkillers as well as not being able to abuse the subutex in the suboxone.  This is why it is so helpful for certain people that are battling addiction.  

Some people that do not have all the facts might be quick to judge something that they have only heard neagtive things about, and don't really kno much more than that.. anything new and foreign to us can be intemadating!  That doesn't mean it doesn't have it's rightful use and place amoung helping addicts deal with their abuse with painkillers..

HOPE THIS SHEDS SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF SUBOXONE..

[Chi_Chi_Lover]

I get you Oxy, I just have read and researched the Suboxone. A person has to be on it for long periods of time or even life and people have withdrawals from it when they decide to stop using it like Hydro and other opiates.
Once you've been on high doses of opiates for years you don't get hi from them anymore either.you just take it to feel "normal".  Suboxone is also very expensive and most insurance do not cover it for treatment. In that case Methadone is recomemended and I know how it's abused.  You do what you have to do and I comend anyone and everyone that wants to be drug free. I used xananx and ambien to get over my withdrawals from Opiates so believe me I'm not judging anyone and didn't mean to sound like it. I just wonder why you would stop one drug to be on another one for a long period of time. Because Suboxone is a long period drug. Isn't drug free the goal?

[Jacqui805]

4-6 months to feel normal.  See that's what I'm worried about.  I'm at day 17 and sufferin' somethin' wicked.  I know that it can take 6 mos. and not a lot of people can relate to that.  I'm sorry you suffered for so long, but at the same time I don't feel as lonely being someone still sufferin' at this point.  Thanks for sharing that.  I unfortunately don't have anything to help, so I'm exhausted and would kill for a night's sleep, and would pay a fortune for relief of the anxiety.  Hell, the pain too.  I have tried every o-t-c thing imaginable, as well as heat and the rest.  Anything in particular help you sleep?  Remember it's gotta be o-t-c, I don't have a doc right now.

[Jacqui805]

Sorry I meant to send that post to you, wrote Oxy down instead.  Sorry for the confusion.

[toxictome]

Congrats on 11 months...that is an inspiration for all struggling, that it can be done.
Keep working it!!!

[oxyaddict420]

To answer your question YES my lifelong goal is to be drug free!  But my short term goal is #1 GOAL IS TO STOP ABUSING THE HELL OUT OF PAINKILLERS SO I CAN STAY ALIVE!  I need to get my life back on track first before I can think about being 100% technically drug free for life!  To me it is just as important for me to get my life back on track BY WHATEVER MEANS POSSIBLE!  I need to do this first off for ME.. If I keep abusing pills the way i do for much longer I seriously might die at anytime!  So for me it is Much more important to make sure I am taking care of my health and making sure I dont overdose from tylenol because of taking 30,000 mg of it each day for weeks on end, or taking over 600mg of oxycodone each day for weeks on end and worrying about stop breathing altogather..

See, we all are different, andthe circumstances of each of our addictions and abuse are all different as well!  So if you are asking me if I would rather manage my addiction and be on suboxone long term and LIVE and be able to manage my life responsibly, or would I rather try just another same attempt at a short term detox to just relapse... I think my choice at this point is clear.. although everyone is not going to understand, or agree at this point I really dont care..  I have a fiancee that I have been with for 14yrs and she needs her man back!  I need my mind back, and my life back in control.

[Chi_Chi_Lover]

A lot of people swear by tylenol PM it did nothing for me. Can you not go to a doctor and tell him you are having insomnia? There are some great things for short term use. Ambien, Lynesta and many others. The ambien helped me so much for sleep and the aniexty. I was on it several months but had no trouble coming off it. When you have been addicted to strong drugs OTC things just don't seem to help. Sorry but please be strong the first couple of months are hell