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Beginning Suboxone

I'm currently decreasing on Methadone (on about 5-10 mg/day).  I just got a prescription filled for Suboxone and am wondering how much I have to be in withdrawals to begin taking Suboxone.  I've read that if you are taking under 30mgs of Methandone, you can start Suboxone immediately but have also read that you must be in full withdrawals to begin.  If I start the Suboxone now, what will happen?  Will I be in worse withdrawals than if I just wait and take in a couple of days?  I'm wondering which w/d's will be worse (Methadone or starting Suboxone).  Any info will be appreciated.
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I was on methadon. I swith ed to suboxone and took it that day. I was fine. It was not easy but worth it.
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gregory12172, i was just realeased today from detox. I am an opiate addict. I was started on methadone 5 days ago. Tomorrow i am going to be started on Suboxen. I just took a small amount of fentynal so i will stop having withdrawals tonight. While in detox i was last dosed 3 days ago of methadone. I know in the past i have taken suboxen after taking percoets in the same day and got really sick. I'm wondering if you would know if i will go through withdrawls when i start the suboxen tomorrow? I really truly belive that suboxen and intensive outpatient will be the answer to my sobriety. So if i get thrown into withdrawls from taking the suboxen tomorrow, how long do you suppose i will withdrawl for the suboxen to take over?
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Hello I am starting the Suboxone treatment tomorrow and was wondering if it would be ok to take my Diazapam to sleep tonight
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Hello I am starting the Suboxone treatment tomorrow and was wondering if it would be ok to take my Diazapam to sleep tonight
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good luck my sister died from oxy 2 weeks after her 42nd birthday just 1 pill too many just 6 day before xmas our family is still shattered so kee trying your r more important than you realize- wish we knew about this solution, really do
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Hi I have read some posts about suboxone and am really scard to start it! I was on 3 or 4 MS Contin (100 MGs) per day so anywhere from 300 to 400 mgs a day, if I could I would occasionally do more when possible, that being said I finally decided after 10 years of using its time to quit! Went to my pain specialist and asked how to quit without experiencing to much w/d She put me on Kadian 20mgs and said take 7 pills twice a day, that works out to 280 MSG per day nonetheless I tried and of course experienced some withdrawal symptoms, I have to be on the Kadians for awhile to get my dose down, then she plans on giving me Suboxone! I'm scard! Questions!!! How much of a dose should I be on of the Kadians before I get on the Subs? And how long should I stay on it for? And will I go through w/d from the Subox......
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just started soboxone this morning last used yesterday no support just myself dont want anyone to know glad i seen what you wrote worrying less thanks hope i make it
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What happens if you take opiates while on suboxone??? The suboxone is not working so I took a few hits of heroin. I want to feel good on the sub. Help!!
I was on 45 mg of methodone. I was off of it and back on heroin for 3 days when I switched to suboxone. I took 2 mg about 10 hours after I was high when w/d began. 1 hour later I took another 2mg, I was getting sick and repeated this the  next hou.  
I feel really bad. I have full w/d so I took a few hits of heroin but it didn't stop the w/d. How do I get back on the sub. And not feel bad. What did I do wrong? Can i be clean from opiates within a week? Can I pass a drug test while on suboxone??? Please help. My doctor failed me. Help
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Hello Everyone,
    I was not going to write but I figure I may help someone if I do.  I went to detox four years ago (family forced) and I was only on suboxone for the 8 days I was in there.  They sent me home with xanaflex and seroquel and I stop those after about two months I stayed clean for 14 months.  Then I got back with my ex and he talked me into going back to the doctor and getting me script of 180 (80mg) oxys and 145 (30) mg roxys every 30 days.  Needless to say I snorted one almost before I got to the car at the pharmacy and within 2 months I was shooting up again.  That many pills only lasted the two of us 6 or 7 days every month, then for 3 weeks I spent every penny I had pawned everything I had and lived within four walls.  I was either spending every penny or sick as a dog daily.   My 20 year old diabetic daughter is 7 months pregnant and I finally woke up and put myself back in the detox that I went to before.  They started me on suboxone my second day and I didn't want to take it but the doctor told me I needed it and he was right.  I only stayed in there five days this time and the suboxone keeps you so comfortable the withdrawals are not bad at all, and they also make the cravings go away.  Of course I am an addict and part of me is trying to talk me in to using but I do not want to go back to that hell.  I am living again already.  I laugh again and I rode four wheelers with my niece and nephew today and had a better time than I had shooting up oxycontin.  And most important I have my first grandchild due in 2 months and I am determined to be clean for him.  I wish you all the courage and strength to stop.  May God Bless Each and Every One!!!
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You have to be in complete withdrawal, effect before starting Suboxone>>>>VIP<<<<<  Minimum  18 to 24 hours or it will give a rebound effect and put you in immediate withdrawal.  

Wait as long as possible... Take a day off a lay in bed, watch movies,  don't take the Suboxone until (you will know)... My doctor said 18 hours minimum but as close to the 24 hour window,  the safer... Message me with any questions.... And, GOOD LUCK!
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could someone help whos on subutex i'm on 16mg aday and i've been on these subutex for 6years now and i'm going into a hospital detox for 14days or 21days not sure think it's 14 days and i'm scared

what do i expect with withdraws because from what i've read it's gonna be alot more tuff than i originally thought

just send me a message on here to my profile as if i write my email i'm sure these guys will cover it up

i'll try

shelly_swanzy***@****
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Hi - this is an old thread so you many not get many responses. You could always post a new question if you'd like. You will not get sick if you take a methadone. Suboxone is an opiate blocker so you likely won't feel any of the effects of the methadone, but it will not make you sick. Suboxone has a long half life, about 36-72 hours, so you may not feel the full effects of the methadone until a couple days after your sub dose. You didn't mention why you were going from sub to methadone?
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I am trying to figure out after taking suboxone can u take methadone within the next 24 hours.. would it have the same affect as feeling like I was going to die from taking suboxone too soon after taking methadone.. because i really dont want to feel that way again... Any help on answering my question would be much appreciated. thanks
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I took a sub over 28 hours ago and used heroin all day yesterday and used again this morning.  When should I take another sub?
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I just started taking suboxone 2 days ago. I am having side-effects. These side-effects are listed in the info I got with my prescription, but it says to notify my doc immediately. The problem is I do not want him to take me off of them. This is the first time in years I have went 2 days w/out pain pills (hydrocodone, oxycodone). So I guess I'm just wondering if anybody out there has had similar side-effects. They include: trouble breathing at night, trouble sleeping, forgetfulness/confusion, headache, chills, dizzyness. I know it sounds bad, but the sife-effects are better than the alternative!! Has anyone else had these?
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Tommorow I start treatment with suboxon. I am scared yet excited to get my life back.Please pray for my full recovery and wish me the best of luck!
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Take direction from your physician, whom I assume is a pain speciaslist AND addiction medicine certified (ASAM). If your really want your life back as you say you do, you will start collaborating with your doc - you should not be doing this "on your own".....as you've probalby heard a million times, "your best thinking got you here". Time to surrender so you can get clean. Suboxone is a tool, that's all it is. If you want lomng-term health, you would increase your success probability by involving yourself in therapy, 12step, other support, surrounding yourself with recovering people, staying away from slippery places, whatever. But just taking suboxone is a trap. Be realistic. You're an addict - there is no magic bullet. Yes, you're a survivor today but don't kid yourself - eventually, your number will come up. Good luck - I wish you the best.
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I am definitely going to start on Suboxone as I have found a place where I can go as I took my best friend there as we were both PK partners, he has relapsed but I need to at least try because he is motivated  and I am too. Since the late 70's, the 80's 90's and especially 98- now I have been on tons of pain meds.  Started with Vicodin, Percodan, Demerol, for migraines, than was diagnosed with back problems, neuropathy, HIV+, HCV+(now gone since Feb of this year after 30 months of interferon which was a living hell) and started on 40mg of OxyContin four times a day.  By 2002, I was addicted and was in pain management where I was given methadone, then morphine, about 5 back procedure given shots of steroids which did nothing for pain.  Eventually, I saw a Neurologist as the peripheral neuropathy was like frostbite and very painful.  Every 3-4 months, I saw him in person to check my pain level and he would ask if I needed and increase in meds, of course I said yes and got up to 320mg of OxyContin twice a day plus Percocet 10-20mg every 4 hours.  This went on(by now I had went on disability, while working I couldn't wait to get home to my best friend, OC.) I wish I could have held out and kept my job but they let me go because I had too many appointments and missed work too much. Sure miss my job.. Anyway, after my insurance took OC off their formulary w/o warning, I went into withdrawal, placed on Duragesic 100 (fentanyl) and Percocet again.  Than back to morphine, than finally after new insurance, I am on on 30mg of oxycodone every 4 hours 5x a day and 80mg of OxyContin twice a day.  I always run out and go on wild chases to get more and pay street prices. ai hope this suboxone works as I want my life back.  Lately I have been speed balling a lot.  I have managed to quit smoking, but have mild emphysema and want very much to have a clean and healthy life. At one point I was on crystal on and off for 3 months which was due to lack of opiates and people i normally wouldn't hang with. I was into crack cocaine and IV as well at that time while shooting Dilaudid & Overdoing on Fentanyl.  I am a living miracle and know that God was and is watching over me. I don't really have a question other than how long should I wait after my last dose of OC? 12-24 hours or just when the withdrawal gets too much?
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What are u talking about??....what's tha difference .....
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What are u talking about??....what's tha difference .....
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this is a very old post, go to the top of the forum and go to "post question" and start a new one, or this will just get lost
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1 took 2mg suboxone at 8 am...then I took 5 vikes at 9pm....I had too I couldent take tha pain anymore...I did feel high but now I don't kno what to do tha suboxone didn't do anything
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If u take tha suboxone you can take vikes like 12 hrs later....u may not feel high but you will help tha pain...
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Yeah, I can get with that as being 100% better as compared to ones prior life, and you're taking something as prescribed  and can live a "normal" life.  When I went from taking 60 750s a day to being on sub. it was night and day - like I had my life back.  I did a 6 week detox on sub., and it's a wonder drug - but it is a very powerful opiate, so "clean and sober", I don't know if that's the right description - like calling someone on methadone maintainence "clean".  I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it - who am I to judge? - but "clean" is "clean" meaning you take nothing that affects you from the neck up - as I've done for 11 months now.
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