CT v Tapering v Sub v Methadone

Sorry...meant to post this as a new thread but accidentally put it under last post! Doh!
I would like to see some substantiated evidence that CT w/d can kill you. ( I realize that benzos are one drug that you do need to taper but not necessarily opiates) I realize that tapering is a valid option for some but not for me and others here! I think people should get ALL the information they can re: ALL methods....Sub/methadone/c/t/tapering. One will not work for all of us but i don't think people should be scared into something. C/t is very difficult but it is a way to get off the drugs....I have a weakness and tapering for me would be like putting a pile of hamburger in front of my dog....AKA "The Siphon"! I think we all need to get all the information that is out there and choose for ourselves...I'm sure c/t won't work for many as tapering will not work for others. Many medical professionals have an opinion and have researched ways to detox which is probably why there are so many different methods! No one every said this would be pretty or an easy road but is it is a road we all need to travel. Who is to say which way is the BEST way for us except ourselves? I just wanted to express my opinion on this subject...would love to hear others!
Thanks and I pray for all of us to be successful in breaking the cycle of addiction!
Peace,
Marcie

[Tpachuck]

What info do you want.....you named basically your 4 options for getting off the drug.....It would be nice to go to a real expensive rehab place and spend 30 days getting hand held and massaged but I believe (for me) CT was my only option.....When I told my Dr. I was addicted to Vicodin (opiates) he wrote me a rx for a taper down supply to last 30 days.......I took 6 in the parking lot of the pharmacy......then I tapered down to 2 every hour or so until they were gone.....I deserved what I got from the CT....Im still at day 7 so things are not perfect yet......but to get off the drug......I can't see trading 1 drug for another.MHO..............

[oxysbliss]

I think you are absoulty right....I try to stess that finding a way that works for you....ask around...what are the sytoms and I have watched lurkers post here adn tehre..and thats what they have done...Some have done ct...others are tapering and that is a committment....it isnt for everyone and shouldnt be stressed unless its the only way..

I recommend c.t................really...............I did it...and it is and was very refreshing for me, I was able to write about what I was going thru......and see how my mind works...when this drug is and was and whatever however it was availble.....I learned alot.............I changed the way I ate, what I drank, how much sugar I take in...The teas I drink.........The multi vitamins I take, my exersise....all of this had to be taken in consideration...it was and is a long process no matter how you cut it..and finding those things that work and making an honest effort towards your goal..and if you cant tdo that tapering...you SHOULDNT...................or on Sub or Meth..

Meth is controlled quite well in Canada............For exeption of Natives...Believe it or not...but I had to do my own research on this.........I can get Meth here in Canada and because of how isolated I am...I can take bottles home and give it to myself............Well now....Would that work for me? I didnt think so...........it would have been a new drug for me..something I never tried and heaven forbid if I would or could fall in love with it..............However, if it is something I need to try later or whatver.....to some degree...and I am in a place where it is controlled....yes, I would have done it.......yet I know it takes at least 18mths...for a minor pill user to use meth and go down...again another committment..........

So in saying all that folks, I think it is very important how much research we do as indivduals.................We all have to find ways that work

Right from journalling....how we handle ourselves.............and what we do in daily lives...to how you talk, to everything.......I truely believe that...

I hope some of this helps....you out....

Love
C

[Mariyah2]

Hi!!!

How are you doing lady? I have missed you!! I have been having some family problems with my brother. He is in the hospital in Fla with a gall bladder that ruptured. He was close to death before he went to the hospital. They took out 1 1/2 liters of puss from the infection. They put a pick? or drain in his stomach and he is on morphine. My poor Dad is so worried and upset!! It looks like he will stay in the hospital until the end of the week and then go back in for the operation when he is stronger. He is diabetic and not in the best physical health. It is so hard to be so far away. I have lost two brothers and my mother. My brother, father and me are the only ones left. I could not bear to lose him and my father would simply die. I have been so worried and scared. I really am Blessed to have my husband and he is truly my rock.

Keep on smiling!!

Sending peace and warm wishes your way.
M

[cowboyabc]

It comes down to what scares you more the mental aspect of withdraw (depression axiety etc.) or the physical (restless legg low energy etc) it takes 4-8 days for the physical side but the mental side takes alot longer. Tapering helps both but it will let you function. Tapering will let your body adjust and is 95% smoother route to take it just takes more will power. But any one going through Day 3-5 CT has a hell of alot more will power than needed to taper. Tapering is all about having a plan. IF you want to quit it makes more sence to do it the best way for your body. If you can handle the physical and the mental is something that is doable for you go CT. If like me the mental is scary I believe it can kill you because on my CT try I was suicidal (literally). Your brain is nothing to play with. BUT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT that why you need to decide for yourself what to do. I can tell you I have tapered and CT. I tapered so sucsessfully the first time(hardly any withdraw over 28 days no missing work no one even knew) that I thought I found a magic thing and used again. The second taper I did I made it hurt a little more so I would remember. BUT OMG I would rather die than CT but thats just me. I have been clean now so long I dont count days anymore (what a great feeling) and it was form a taper. I come back here every now and then to remember why I dont want to go back and help if I can.

sorry for spelling

[Marce4]

I've missed talking to you too! I posted you a few days back so now I know why I didn't hear from you....I'm so sorry about your brother! How do they think this happened?  Did he have gallstones?  Scary stuff!  Does he have a PICC line in? (peripherally inserted central catheter). He is probably getting major antibiotics and they are resting his gut I would imagine and draining all that poison out!  Is he in pain?

Sorry for all the questions....how are you doing?  I know this is a big stressor! Take care of you ok? So glad to hear from you and my prayers go out to you and your family!
Marcie:)

[Mariyah2]

Thanks so much hun for your good wishes. He was in a lot of pain for 4 days before he went to the ER. He does have a PICC line and they are giving him very strong antibiotics. He is a typical guy and his back and stomach have been hurting him for months. I also think the diabetis is a factor too. The ultra sound showed that his gall bladder looked like mush....ewwwwww. I am very stressed out and have been in a lot of pain too. I am not doing great on c/t because of the pain, I am not abusing them....that is the good part.

I am so happy you are doing well and have missed you.