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Can I take a cough medicine w/narcotics in it while on BUP?

Hi all -

I started Bup on Tuesday of this week (and it is going GREAT!!).  I have a major cold!  My coughs aren't just "little coughs", I had radiation treatments and chemo 12 years ago and due to the radiation, my bronch tubes are funky - according to the radiologists that over saw the radiation treatments, the coughing (when I have a cold) is due to the effects of the radiation.  In any case, I have Tussinex cough syrup at home for this type of thing but am scared to take any since I am now on Bup - What will happen if I take it?  Does anyone know?  I am on the Bup due to my addiction to percocet and I realize that the cough syrup is a nacotic that can be abused as well, but for some reason I never abused the cough syrup (and don't plan to now).  This also leads me to another question, what if I broke my leg or something?  How would the pain be treated?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
-Cold
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Hey, thanks, today is one week clean!  Huray.

As for you, you didn't intentionally break your neck, right?  So, don't act like you put yourself in this situation.  I would consider telling your doctor about your addicition problems...well, maybe at least tell him that you are much more sensitive to wothdrawals than most people you've talked to.  Hopefully he'll allow you to come down slowly.  Switching to Lortabs or Vikes is a lot easier than trying to go off them without!  I would recommend tapering down off the OC as much as possible, add some ibuprofen in between doses to see if that can get you to prolong the length of time between ther OC doses.  You can also use your addiction to your benefit in doing this alos...just think "I wanna take some now, but if I wait another 3 hours, it'll feel much better!"  This helped me eventually get where was waiting also a full day between doses, and the amounts went down too.  When ou get down to about 30mg OC per day, if you can, switch to hydrocodone...The best would be Vicoprofen (hydro and ibuprofen) ask your doc if he will give you that when you're ready to switch.  

Just remember that you had an accident and take it slow.  Your doctor might take it easier on you if you tell him more about how the withdrawals effect you.  Good Luck!!!
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Hello All, first time posting but I have done some reading here from time to time...Not going to try and say the same things everyone else thats abused opiates has already said, although I probably will (rambling already..) Steve, if I can still count correctly u should be on the better side of w/d's since its been 5 or 6 days since you last used...hope your really hanging in there as its always good to hear success stories here...My problem is on the other end of the spectrum...although I have enjoyed opiates off and on for the last 5 years, I had recently kicked it again, on my own.  Sure enough, I found a way to get back in, although not intentionally...I ruptured a disc in the cervicle (upper back/neck) area of my spine.  Needless to say, terrible pain and I knew the pain meds were to follow, assuming hydrocodone at the most.  Well, almost a 1 1/2 months later Ive gone through 4 scripts of 30 40mg OC's and my tolerance continues to climb.  The love/hate thing is killing me...of course I love the access, at the same time I am really disappointed with myself for getting in this deep.  Oh the irony of chasing an OC or 2...paying through the ass, never having a script for them.  I kick completely and now I've gone through more in a month than I've done in a year...I could go in for a refill next time and the doc could say "no more OC's" and drop me down to tabs, who knows.  The moral to my story is this: although withdrawals feel like hell, in the scheme of things the hardest part is what follows...resisting the temptation.  I have seen people post messages wondering if the desire ever goes away. Sure, it dwindles, but once an opiate addict, always an opiate addict.  Mentally, that desire will always linger...Good luck and prayers to everyone trying to quit, and even more to those who are staying clean...
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I know what you mean.  After the divorce, I only got to see my sone 4 days per month.  Just recently she gave me joint custody, so now I have him every other week.  I still savor every moment like I did before the new custody though.  

These Ultracets are definetly not complete non-narcotics...I had a 101.9
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I have not heard of any doctors like that around here, but I am in the Bible Belt.  I hate to say it, but if I could get pills that cheap, I would probably stay addicted forever...not really, I'm sure after a long time, you wouldn't want to live like that...but money is always the first factor in my coming clean.

Hippee,
Thanks for the "rambling" it made me think about things I hadn't considered.  Although, I'd have to disagree about one thing...Playing with your kids WHILE on drugs is better than wither of the two alone...heh heh just kinding, kind of.  =)
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im glag you are feeling good,
as far as the children thing,
love is the drug that im looking for,
when you lose your kids , then get them back
it puts a whole new perspestive on having them.
last night i spent a few hours with my daughter and grandson,
it was his birthday, so i took him shopping and got him some hulk stuff.
im glad i am clean and have the love and time and money to offer them.
so many of us have been to hell and back,  we are all very blessed  here at this fourm. to even have found this place for some of us , is a small miricle.
it is always a pleasure to share  experence,  our daily ups and downs, one addict helpiong another is with out  parallel,

keep posting and sharing , we need ya

peace!!!!!hippy
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Yep, it sure does sound like we have a lot in common...'cept age.

When I got out of high school I wanted to be a rock star. I've been playing guitar since I've been 8 and without trying to sound too cocky, I am exceptionally good (I am trained in most styles of music; classic, jazz, blues and I tought myself how to jam out to my favorite type of music (80's METAL/ 90's alternative) Didn't get serious and go to college until I got married in '90. (Met my wife in one of the bars we played in so I guess it wasn't all bad!)

I'm 35 now. Lori and I wanted to wait to be sure we would actually stay together before we raised a family (we waited 9 years) We Got to do a lot of traveling. But I don't miss it. Katie is my pride and joy!

Yea, I never really had problems with the Math. Diff Eq's, Calc, I blew through that stuff 20 minutes after my 50mg dose.

Steve I'm not trying to put ideas into your head dude but you can always find a doctor that will fake documents and prescribe meds for you (if the price is right) I started taking Darvon given to me by my doc and they worked fine...But a buddy of mine told me about a doctor that would give me the "good stuff" for 40 buck a visit. He'd write me a script for 60 Vicodon HP's and I'd go back and see him in 3 more days...He'd do it again (Hell he even told me how to switch up pharmacies and pay w/o insurance at some so they could never track the scripts between)

So for anywhere between 60 bucks and 120 bucks a pop I got 60 pills...It got very costly but I had the money so...No harm / no foul!

I've rattled on long enough man, STAY CLEAR of the launch button on those missles you are working on, and I'll talk to you soon.

Rob
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hey amber,saw your post on addiction books,
there is a good one  called  SAINT MARY BLUE,  about
a write er experence in rehab by barry longyear.
then there is one   addiction, a banquit to the grave
by welsh , you might like them.

steve, i was reading your post, i hope all is well.
you can get a question in  between 8 am and 11 am.
if not just ask away
seems like i was a single father with a 6 year old daughter and a 3 year old son just the other day.
but my son just finished his 1st year at sarycuse, 4.0
and my daughters son will be 5 years old on sunday.
i just got her husband in the carpnter union,
life go's by so fast.
i grew up , in the hood as child, a few foster homes,
my mother  came from a wealthy quaker famly who wanted her to be a doctor, like my grandmother, but she married my father a irish
alcoholic and they cut her out of the famly.
i got clean at 24 and raised my kids in the suburbs, they grew up normal. because i satyed clean for 16 years.
then pain meds took over my life, but did not stop me from
quater million dollar home further out in the burbs
with my wife i met in na. her parents left us the money
to pay for it cash. after 3 years of vikkes and some oxys,
im clean agian for a year,
ive been going to na meeting for 26 years now , and have seen
the damage of addiction up close and personal, watched my younger brother o.d after being clean for many years,
the moral to the story is get clean if ya want to have a life for yourself and kids.
well its 4 in the morning and im just reading all the post,
could not sleep. so im just rambling.
i hope all go's well for you, sounds like you have a shot at a bright future for yourself and famly.
addiction can steal all that away, so never underestamte it ,
and do what ever it takes to get clean,
being clean  with you kids is a much better high then any drug.


forgive my rambling  
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hipy
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Thanks!  I think I'll make it through the weekend okay.  Doctor's don't prescribe anything to a 22 year old male, trust me I've tried many times...probably got a hundred unfilled scripts for motrin!  I won't know anyone in FL to gets any from, plus I'll be with my brother, whose straight as an arrow.  

My son is here now watching a movie.  It's not so bad, with the right meds/knowledge/support.  When I feel like I can't take it anymore, I just tell myself I deserve it and I shouldn't have gotten addictted again because I knew better.  In rehab they told us it is a disease, which I believe, but at the same time it gave me the feeling of "well if it's a disease then I can't help, it's not my fault" then people end up going right back to their drug of choice and Bradford gets rich.  Sorry, I had a bad experience with Bradford...but that's a long story.

I'm leaving in about three hours (around 8:30 C.S.T) I'll check in when I get back Sunday night.
Stephen
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I went from "it's not so bad" to "hell on earth in about 3 seconds...It comes in waves.  My son was watching a disney movie that I used to used to watch as a child (Secret of NIMH) and everything was going fine.  Then he wants juice, then fruit chews, then gum.  I got up about 4 times and told him I didn't have any gum...so he decides he'd ask 407 more times for gum and I almost lost it.  I almost snapped at him, but I realize it would be because of the shape I'm in right now, so I calmly explain to him that I didn't have any and decided to go take 1mg xanax...I was going to wait until bedtime, but I have plenty.  

I'm new at posting...should I keep posting on this question, the top one, or what?  I can't ever ask my own question because it's always full.  

You guys have a great weekend, I'll write when I get back!
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Feeling a little better now after the xanax and phenergan kicked in (I vomited earlier).  

RStew, how old are you?  My son just turned 3, I'm 22, getting my B.S.E. in mechanical engineering next summer.  I might go for my MS degree in propulsion since I work with missiles (co-op student).  I think I scared someone yesterday when they heard a missile engineer was snorting oxys and poppin' hydros and percs.  Don't worry, no errant missiles have go over in farmer bubba's barn and killed any cows yet... =)
Anyway, we seem to be in very similar situations.  Ever aced a test after studying on those vikes?  For me, it clears my head of everything bothering and gives me a TON of energy to study/raise my son/etc/etc/etc--

How did you get 20 Vicoden per day???  I bought 10mg hydros for 4-6 dollars each and an 80 mg oxy cost me 60-75 dollars.  I could never get a script and I was always the lowest on the totem poll in the street market.

Pain pills get everyone don't they, especially the well to do, geniouses, football players, cheerleaders, rich, etc.  Wonder why?  If someone had told me oxycontin was like heroin, I never would have touched it. But I guess once it's in your body, all opiates are about the same.
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Sweet home Alabama--Where the skies are so blue!  I knew you were a southern brother!--Anyway you are doing great Please please stay the course--Your addiction will be talking to you this weekend--"God I feel so bad let me just get a couple of whatever to get me through and then I'll start again on Monday"--But the problem is Steve that Monday NEVER comes!  Get this Monkey off of your back NOW AND BE DONE WITH IT!--We're here for you--Cheering you on--You will definately be in my prayers this weekend! Peace/Mystere AKA N.O. Lady

Anne
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haha, I just got through taking my thermodyanimcs II final exam last week.  I make all A's and a couple B's thanks to staying up all night snorting oxys, studying...I snorted my way right through this semester...and now I'm paying for it.  I just got home from work.  I don't think I should post at work; they monitor everything.  

I live in Huntsville, AL... I was refering to Birmingham, AL earlier, sorry, I hope this doesn't make everyone ignore me now...we're not as redneck as everyone thinks.  =)

I AM taking my son to the beach this weekend, I just meant that I might have to get my brother to play with him if the WD get bad.  The Imodium isn't working 100%...I almost shat myself at work a few times...my legs feel like I need to stretch them constantly and I have a constant urge to kick something really hard.  I'm fully of energy but at the same time I caught myself leaning over my car as I fill it up with gas a few minutes ago.  My stomach feels like a boiling mess, I get dizzy when I stand up, but I feel better than I expected thanks to the meds I'm taking.  Plus I tapered considerably before quitting.

The cravings are getting worse.  I know that with every hour that goes by that I haven't taken anything, (26), the more effect a few precious hydros would have on me.  One call and within an hour I'd be floating...sigh....I'm not going to though, I'm going to beat this and hopefully never go back to them.  I'm leaving in a few hours, I might post a few more before I leave, but if not, see you Sunday night.
Steve

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Do I sense some Michiganders in the room? :-)

Don't recall speaking to either of you in the past and I haven't posted in about a week or so (here in South East corner of Michigan <Rockwood> it's been sunny and beautiful for two weeks. After work I've been outside every single day till sunset, then I have a ton of paperwork to do for work.

Anycase my comment is to Steve. Buddy, don't I know where you are coming from! I have a two year old daughter, work full time (Mechanical Engineer) and go to school a couple nights a week for my MSME. Since Katelyn's been alive, I was high everyday, always energetic, always ready to be her play toy...Had no problems handling work and school (though it was hard to think out some of my thermo assignments)

I worked my way up to taking 20 10mg Vicodon HP's everyday for 4 years. My withdrawl was HELL...It lasted a good two weeks. But I went to my doctor, told him what was up and on top of giving me some valume to help me sleep, he gave me an anti-depressant to keep me from crawling out of my skin.

I got past it dude...I'm 6weeks clean, without a setback, I still crave but, remembering my daughter's face when daddy said he was too sick to play with her???? That is enough of a deterrant for me to stay clean.

Do the same man, it sounds like you are going strong! Keep it up! REMEMBER THE TIME DAD COULDN'T TAKE HIS KID TO THE BEACH BECAUSE OF THE {cough} FLU...That will help. Believe me. Through this whole ordeal, the person I cared about hurting the most wasn't me or my wife...It was my little girl.

All my best, Rob
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dang, it is almost time to eat lunch!!

steve, i hope you are doing okay, don't let your age or how young you are or any of that outside **** make you feel different from anyone on this board, you are not any different! just a pill head (addict) whatever term you are most comfortable with (for me "junkie" does just fine!) i can relate to the pills helping social phobia b/c they really do, for a minute at least! lol!! the trade off is just not worth it though...

anne, hey girl!!! i love seeing you post here, you remind me of a lady i was in treatment with four years ago whos hubby was a physician!

and peaz, YOU ARE DOING GREAT, OMG!!! your sponsor is just trying to "do her job" that is how some of them are! and sponsors can be laid off, fired, or just talked to and set straight! maybe she isn't the one for you... you will know more after you hear her out, let us know how it goes!!

looked up a book site and read up a little bit on james freys book! i asked my husband to get me four books for mother's day: james frey "a million little pieces", william burroughs "junky", kurt cobains "journal" and to round it all off "rational recovery" anyhow, that is my wish list, don't bore me with diamonds!!

and delsym cough syrup is the **** as far as cough syrup goes, it does work great so that was a great suggestion, forgot about that one! that explain why it tastes so much like tussionex, minus the nasty little addition of hydrocodone!

i have still been having using dreams... if i ever get to post a question here LOL, i would ask the doc about that but it is really not that big of a deal, more of a curiosity!

peace ya'll,

amber
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Are you talking about the beautiful Birmingham in Michigan?
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Thanks.  I do feel like I'm young and have the rest of my life ahead of me, but at the same time I have a lot behind me as well.  I mean, in a couple more years people are going to be asking me "is that your brother or--" when I'm out in public with my son.  ha  What I mean is that being 22, I may not have had this problem for a long time but it still makes up 25% of my life.  One quarter of this **** is all I know.

Anyway, I actually slept well last night even though I had to get up three times to use the bathrrom.  Thats a very awkward experience mind you...waking up at 1 AM with the xanax still blazing, having to dash/crash/stumble to the bathroom still half way asleep... =)

But I was able to go back to sleep pretty easily.  Well, it's time for me to go to work.  This is going to be interesting...at least it's Friday.
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Gd. Mrng.

Hope you have access to a puter, Steve. Hippee and others saved me my 1st WD weekend.

The Frey book: I agree. Unorthodox style, but it grows on the reader. I had mean to photocopy one pg. (2nd graph and pg 141 and one other pg. prior), but I never got @ to it.

So the book is in the mail, Dancin', as of yesterday. I sent in the cheapest way possible (I might be able to get the dope outta my system, but the bargain hunter's gotta stay.) (IE: I mailed it in the cheapest way)

Anyhoo, I had to fill outta ass of info as it was going across the border to Canada. For a book. The P.O. guys looked in pkg, flipped through the book, etc. I felt like a criminal (similar to waiting for the pharmacist to fill a legal script).

The P.O. guy said maybe 5 days 'fore the book arrives in Canada, unless it gets humg up in Customs. Doubtful, as there is nothing for the dogs to sniff, not even a drop of residue.

I decided not to copy to 2 Frey pages I wanted: 1. They would Just get lost in the myriad piles of Junk I already save. 2. Not  many (none) of my friends or famBly know of this dirty laundry anyway. (Years ago, 10, I claimed "alcoholism", long story- but it saved my ass; although alcohol, in truth, bores me)

I did, however, at first ask my hubby if he would mail the book for me. He asked why I was sending it to a girl in Canada. I told her I had met/read her words on an addiction board. That piqued his curiosity. (He writes for a living. I can definitely mail you some of his work if you wish, e-mail) I replied to him that peeps here, and other recovery boards, were sooo nice, not dregs of Earth as the GP (general population) thinks.

He agreed. "Recovering addicts are." He has been through Al-Anon (for me) some decade ago see above^), so he knows all the phrases. Prolly agrees w/ them for that matter. He is wayyyyy religious, not that I couldn't bone up on my secular knowledge, but I am not he in my views at all.

All that ramblin' was to prove, or say, that Peaz, you have a great life, certainly a great aspect/outlook. I wouldn't weigh 2 cents on a pro-advocate lecture you +may+ be about to receive @ A/A. A friend who has embraced A/A for years told me that asking an A/A convert if meetings were important was like asking a cowboy w/ hemmrhoids (sp) if he should still ride.

Mystere: you are doing great. Though I may be farther in my recovery (time wise) than you, I don't feel so far maturity wise. IE: I still have myriad thoughts of using. I even cashed the script for the Vikes. DUMB. I had thought I was holding on to a script for 18, but it was filled for fifteen VikeES. Now I want to call the oral surgeon, or the pharmacist, and ask who was wrong: he or I?

Now. That is the epitomy of a setback. What difference does it make (15 vs. 18) if I am not planning to take them?

As an aside to a possible setback, my hubby has left town for the weekend, leaving me to care for things, including the puppy who is a mixture of sooo many dogs, perhaps even YIKES.. Pit Bull!

I, as a reward, for having the hovel to myself, decided to cash the script in case something happened. I can't believe how dumb that sounds, kinda like I am soo prescient that I can predict a broken/sprained ankle.

The other reason I took the day off (unpaid; I am out of sick days) is that I am generally up 4-6 night a week w/ one of my errant (almost adult) kids who frequently spends the entire night out (w/o caling) while I lie in bed listening to sirens and rehashing horror stories accompanying same.

Ah, for the years the kids were two, and all I worried about was the constant bickering and kiddy illnesses.

I have rambled about here. I follow all the stories on this board, though, and admire the courage, advice and strengths through your (all of you) struggles.

Time to enjoy this stolen day off by watching TV trash, visiting Lacy Petersen and Elizabeth Smart boards, checking in the myriad addiction boards, reading, playing Yahoo Bridge and Spades, and taking the hyper Pit Bull/Chow/Lab (mix) to the beach, hunting for sharks' teeth, and hopefully refraining from yammering here.

I worry now, tho, that hubby will visit these same boards now that he knows I do. I hope not. He quit snooping years ago when he saw that he had to live his life, not mine.

rwc~
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Good morning!--I know it will be rough but I know you can handle it!--I also loved those precious little pills--Like I said in an earlier post--A handful of hydro's and I was ready to paint and roof the house/have a Martha Stuart style dinner waiting for my husband/rebuild a few antique cars/then go dancing all night!-I not sure why those things have that effect on some people--They were almost like speed--until you come crashing down--and I always did--having to increase my dosage to experience that very first wonderful "high"--except it never came--I took so many of those suckers one night i was afraid to close my eyes because I was convinced I had overdosed--Paranoia--now that's a great feeling Ha!  Please Steve you have a great opportunity to reclaim your life-Do you want to be doing this 20 years from now--Because that is exactly what will happen if you don't stop NOW-- You have a chance to spare yourself 20 years of hell and misery I was willing to endure those VERY UNCOMFORTABLE 5-7 days to get my life back. Read and post often--This board was my lifeline--You have many wonderful people here to offer love and support because we know exactly what you are going through! You are in my prayers-- good luck Hon We're pulling for YA--Peace & prayers Mystere/N.O. Lady

Anne
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I CAN'T SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!  Argh!
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Hey, thanks for the advice, but I've never had a problem with xana or any other drug.  Only opiates are addicting for me...tried cocaine a couple of times...never had the urge to want anymore.  I drink alcohol sometimes, never feel like I could drink on a daily basis either.  I don't know why I like pain pills so much.  I guess it's because I can do all things I have to do in my life easier, it doesn't make you high in the sense of like being drunk or anything...just makes you feel GOOD and for me, it's gives me energy to be a young father/collgeg student/full time employee.  Anyway, I get my son back from the ex tomorrow.  I'm taking him to Pensacola City Beach with my girlfriend, brother, and his wife.  I'll fake a bad case of the "flu" when we meet up in Birmingham where he lives.  =)  "Will, can you watch Austin and take him to the beach for a while, this flu is horrible!"  haha  Yeah I think I can find family to help me with him while daddy gets better.  One thing that bothers me though...when I first started dating my girlfriend I would tell her I had a few beers if she wondered why I acted wierd (being on pills, I didn't want her to know).  She happened to casually mention one time that she "liked me better" when I was like that.  I have a bit of a social anxioety problem that opiates completely cure...might have something to do with being so young and haveing a 3 year old son, divorced, heart broken because of the way my ex also treated me...ANYWAY, I hope once the withdrawals are over I can work on it...........uh oh, here come the runs...gotta go bye~!
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You Go Girl--9 days and standing strong! I do understand about those cravings that hit out of the blue-Believe me it does pass--I'm like you when I think of where I was 12 days ago my resolve gets stronger--I'm not sure if I told you about the book Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey--He identifies the cravings as your primal "beast" talking--This book has helped me tremendously especially with the mind games we addicts like to play!  Take care hon you made it through your first week opiate free!  That is quite an accomplishment!  I'll check in on you tomorrow! Peace & Prayers-Mystere/ AKA N.O. Lady

Anne
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Hi Doll---I am WHIPPED!! Today was Instant Winner Thursday and the phones were ringing off the hook, people were dropping by, and I had some spots to cut....So I haven't posted much, either.  Did I tell you I started the Frey book?   I isn't really in chapters.....in fact the writing style is somewhat unorthodox, but very well-written and compelling.
    I think the AA gods are on my case for spouting off AA heresies, because my sponsor wants to meet w/ me before my mtg tomorrow.....About something she'd "rather not discuss on the phone".  ???? Sex? Drugs?  Rock and roll?? LOLOL  No, I don't think so, either.....I think she's sensing that my heart isn't in the program, and she's concerned that I might "GO BACK OUT"  one of their favorite slogans....First of all, she needs to work HER own program, and I'll work MINE......Secondly, what happened to the famous slogan," Take what you want and leave the rest?"  Or were they just kidding??  Because I DON'T believe everything she does, and I'm NOT madly in love w/ AA and will not make it my second addiction!!  Let's see, now---I've been sober 16 months, quit smoking for 4, lost 30 pounds or more, got in the best, most fit shape of my life, attend mtgs and go to my professional group therapy, and see my drug counselor regularly.  Yep----I'm on a CRASH course, I see that plainly.....I'm headed for TROUBLE!!!!
    Well, I'll get back to you on that.
    But!!  Look at you, Missy!!! You are just an awesome example of motivation and determination and I am so proud of you!!!  There is a WORLD of difference in you as a person between last week and this one.  Incredible!! And I see you posting to others to help them as much as you can, and it doesn't get any better than that.....What goes around, comes around, for certain.  God bless you, Anne--hats off to ya!!  Love, Peazy
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The cravings have been getting stronger today, starting day 9 tomorrow. Rick thinks I am being grumpy and mean. But I am just trying to explain to him that I miss "my bad friends" sometimes-used to be when things got too stressful, I turned to them. I am now at that stressful time, and I KNOW that is why the cravings were so strong today. But now it is over, made it thru day 8, and will keep trying. Honestly, work really can be the best "distractor" if I let it, it is just hard letting go, ya know what I mean?????  I made the choice myself, I argue with myself when the cravings start saying, "so what" what is the big deal anyway? Well it is a BIG deal, I just go read my posts from 7 days ago, I was in serious pain then from the wd's. They are gone now, I just can't go back, no way......Even if I wanted to I would have to go to some DR and make up crazy stories (I have never been a good liar-too much guilt) The monkey is not on my back, just keeps trying to see if I will let him come home.....NO, he has been issued a legal restraining order by me! (hehhehehehe)
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Good evening my guardian Angel!--I wasn't able to post much today because I didn't have access to a computer--Anyway thanks for the James Frey Info--I plan on picking that up this weekend--I hope you had a great Thursday--Take care Hon--I'll post tomorrow--Peace and Prayers Mystere AKA N.O. Lady

Anne

Gracie97--How are you doing? day 8 and going strong I hope!
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