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Tapering on ur own and quitting is always the best thing to do like avis said.....suboxone should be a last resort...tramadol affects the same receptors that opiates do and therefore can take away the cravings and help a tram abuser kick the habit...to a certain degree... much of tram abuse is due to the antidepressent quality tram has/in addiction to the narcotic affect....it is a double whammy so the sub can help with the narcotic aspect of this drug..te is drug is a creeper and has different mechanisms of addiction than regular narcs due to the AD affect...depression can hurt during trm wd....try tapering, aftercare and sheer determination before u turn to a maintenence drug...give it all u got first...
Have you been able to stay on your taper?
thank you, we will need all the help and prayers we can get, you've already helped so much, thanks for that.....talking to people who have actually gone through this is so refreshing...the few (very few) people we have talked to before this (close friends and a couple family members) they deffinitely didn't judge us, but their ability to even slightly grasp what this is like was non-existant. Its like trying to explain a kalidoscope to a blind person.
I look back now and see how I used to view "addiction", i thought it all was like nicotine, its hard to quit cuz you really want it and you get irretated if you don't have it, but if you want to quit you just stop, stop being so selfish and week and just decide not to do it.
I now see that there are "habbits" that are tough to stop in their own right, but then there is a whole nother level, called "addiction". I don't mean to offend anyone quiting cigaretts or chewing, but they are just not in the same ball park, not even the same sport for that matter. Being a baseball guy "back in the day":) i used to chew tobacco a lot, so quiting chewing wasn't easy, I really wanted a chew. But now, i feel like in the Matrix when keanu decides to take the blue pill to wake him up to reality, or maybe it was the red pill...no it was the blue, anyway i feel like ive taken the blue pill and my eyes are wide open to the reality of "addiction" and I see now its a reality that i just could not understand until i went through it. Thats why when I first read the warnings about it being addictive, I didn't take it too serious...what a life altering mistake.This post is probably way too long...so i'll stop now.....
You both can do this I am here to help. I have been where you are .I have been clean all most a year now ......
avis
Hey gigz5. I love you so very much...we WILL get through this together coming out stronger than we started. You are an amazing husband and my best friend. Stay strong my love!
Thanks r2r, ya..avisg told me its a pretty low chance that a doc will give me sub for tramadol addiction.
I read and hear stuff about how its not that addictive, it makes me want to laugh and put my fist through gd wall. To me, its like saying Methadone isn't addictive because its only a synthetic opioid. I want to tell them to talk to someone who's 2 months into taking them and ask them if they think its easy to get off of.
My wife and I talk about this too, how long will everyone be so lax on trams? we were afraid for a while that they would put the clamps on it and we wouldn't be able to get it so easy and we'd be in trouble. I keep thinking everyday I'm going to place an order and it won't be available anymore. I've had dreams like that, when I realize I can't get anymore and we've only got enough to make it through the day. Knowing whats coming I get hit with the dred..panic...and then i'll wake up, realize I have plenty and feel sooo good that i'll lay there and smile.
They need to wise up about these trams, and realize these things are so dangerous, especially cuz there so easy to get. They need to put the lock down on these, once we're off them off course, not till then, right now keep em flowing, just for a little while longer:)
I get them off the internet, Ive found about 35 different leagal us sites that will give tramadol if you take an "online consult". That means they have a few questions like are you alergic to anything? are you an addict? where does it hurt? answer those and they say "here you go, have some Tramadol", but they will only let you order every 15 days, the largest bottle is 180, so I order from a number of different sites. There are a lot of different sites but I found out that many of them are really the same company with multiple sites, so I'd order from one, then order from another and get it put "on hold" because I "recently ordered the same product", so it took me a little while to figure out which ones were seperate from the other ones.
Its embarressing to see how much we spend on these, even though we buy in bulk, we drop like $1,600 a month on em. We're fortunate to have jobs that pay us well so we're not going under spending this much, but we don't make that much money as to make it no big deal. It's such a waste and makes me sick when I think about it. All the people who need help or money, even in our own families that we could be helping, or getting ourselves out of debt faster, but instead we f'n throw it away. Brutal. what a waste.
I think i have read somewhere that doctors do not give it to people addicted to trams....But maybe that is because they still see it as not being addictive...Which makes me so mad, after all the stories i have read similar to yours...Doctors really need to know that it is indeed additive , with horrible w/d's that can be life threathening s/p?...
I wish i knew more, but this is just from what i have read....
I really hope you can get an answer from someone, and find help from a doctor....
Good luck to you!!!
r2r
very few people have been able to get sub for tram but everyonce and a while you will find a doc will to do it
I have seen other people on here who have Tramadol problem like yours....I just cant understand how you could ever have enough to do 50 a day....Where could you get so many ?
Are you rich ? or is there some other way ? I cant imagine doctors giving this many.
The one you need to chat with is avisg. Send her a message. I will also let her know to contact you.