Chest Pain

[din24]

Since I quit smoking about 2 days ago, pior to that I was having 1-2 a day for a week. Anways I've been having this spuratic sharp, but not painful little jolt(shock?) in the middle of my chest. Any ideas?

[spook]

Because this way it is open to interpretation and your response is the only answer you need to read.

[Francoise]

What the hell are you talking about?

Why don't you drop the pseudo-intellectual, elliptical bullshit and say what you mean?

[to doc dan from joe]

Thanks for your comments,  Since I am a chemist for a pharmaceutical company, you can understand my concern for testing positive eventhought I have a script and use it exactly as prescribed.

[Thomas]

If feel, after the nice things you've had to say to me, I owe it to you to make sure you know that my narco-detox formula is as develped as it is because I've been a narcotic addict for thirty years --- that means thirty years of cleaning up and relapsing, over and over again. The detox plan will help you get off the stuff, Jay-Jay, but it won't keep you off. What you are, you are. We each have our own fates. Let them, if nothing else, be intersting ones!

[Jay-Jay]

They must have been sold on the false confidence you give while being on drugs..  Hope you can hold up that confidence while you decide to withdrawl, you will just go back to be the same old you, like me and the rest are now too...  In a way I say it is not fair to the people you are trying to be employed by... They are in the dark and never been through this stuff however you have... It is up to you to be honest with them and yourself...

^j^ ^j^

[spook]

I just got a job offer and they said they did not care about my past hitory of drug use licit or illicit.
I suppose anything goes in this crazy world.

[spook]

This Site was created out of unconditional Love, no money making venture here, the act of putting love (regard for others) into action (see dictionary), "altruism"-n. and the lovely couple that enabled it almost had to appologise, because the way society twists the true meaning of words (brainwashing). Ego does not come into it. I think you are having a nice day and will be thinking along different lines soon. Money=reality, reality=pain (general theory of irrelativity) Einsteins need not apply, send resume to YOURSELF!!
give what you can, take only that which belongs to you, or do what you feel like, its your life....its ALL ours PLANET.

[Pixie]

I tested positive for Propoxyphene (Darvocet/Darvon) once. I had to come up with the prescription bottle or papers from the pharmacy to prove it was prescribed for me. They also examined the date to see if it corresponded enough with the time it was detected in my system. Once my prospective employer had the papers, I started work. They didn't seem to  care that I took prescription pain killers, and they were quite a conservative company. Here's the thing-they already told me I was hired before the test. So it would have been obvious if they changed thier minds after I tested positive for Darvocet, and I don't think you can not hire someone legally if they are on a prescription.
Pixie

[Francoise]

This site can't afford a different bb software? That strikes me as kinda strange.

I have a web site that I'm not using for its original purpose. I could get some software for a bulletin board like the one at www.mpip.org (check out the bulletin board). As you can see, the bb on this site is pretty good and as many people can post as want to.

I would consider turning this site into an addiction bulletin board if you folks were interested. I don't in fact know anything about how much the sotware for that kinda bb costs, but I'm willing to investigate. The site maintenance costs me about three hundred fifty bucks a year.

If you'd like to see what's on the site now and guage its speed, you can look at the site here: fishingandcruising.com. There are some pretty nice pictures of the Georgia coast in the Liberty County link, especially at Yellow Bluff.

Let me know what you think.

OH, and btw, I saw the following in a post somewhere around here: "They're computer got ****** up like a ..."

"They are computer got ****** up like a ..."  ?????????????? The republic is doomed :)

Sorry, I'm a writer/editor.

Francoise.

[Thomas]

I don't think it has to do with the time as much as it relates back to the quality of the opiate experience. I loved them from the very first dose of anything. I was 11 years old and taking a bedtime dose of Tussionex (yes, nectar of the gods). I spent the night floating a few feet above my bed for the evening. More important than how long you've been using oxy, how much do you honestly like it?

[cindi]

Has anyone heard from Chad and deb from philly?  I am a little bit concerned for the both of them.....

[cindi]

I am curious as to whether or not Ibogaine is even approved/legal in the United States...I think Luke knows alot about Ibogaine and Brighty may have checked into facts about it?  the use of Ibogaine is very interesting..as far as job denial due to use of legal pain med scripts,  My husband has been a chronic pain patient for a very long time and has taken several pre-employment drug screenings...pre testing he has completed a form asking him what meds he is on and he has always been honest...as he has always had a legit script for his pain meds...I think as long as you have a legit script you should be ok but that is not in stone...honesty has always been on my husband's side but whenever I have been honest I've gotten screwed..LOL..and to Petie  Can we describe excessive use as abuse?  are you using more than your prescribed dose of Oxys?  are you running out of the med too soon for a refill?  like Francoise mentioned, that is pretty much up to the individual,  I could say that excessive use is anything more than what is prescribed...If your doc has given you 80 mg twice a day and you are using 280 mg twice a day I think that could constitute as excessive use.  

With kindest regards
cindi

[Francoise]

I think oxycontin has been on the market only about three or four years, so that's as long as anyone has been using it.

Heavy use? That depends on the individual, I think. There are cautionary warnings on the 80 mg tablets since if you were to hit 80 mg cold there would be some danger of apoxia. I've been taking 100 mg twice a day for two years for chronic spine pain. That's considered a pretty hefty dose. However, I know someone who is taking 240 mg twice a day. That guy has rheumatoid arthritis of the spine and he's in quite a bit of pain.

I'm guessing you're a recreational oxy user? And you're worried about getting off? Perceptive. I worry about getting off, but there's a guy who posts here named Thomas who can help with the philosophical aspects of opiate-based pain medication if you're on the oxy for legitimate reasons. He certainly has helped me rearrange my thinking on that topic.

As far as I can tell, depression of some degree is always a feature of getting off oxycontin or any other opiate. There's a guy in California who puts the patient into a medically induced coma for three days to do the initial detox. And there's a treatment with a substance called ibogaine that is presented as a one-shot detox from opiates. "Resets the addiction switches in the brain" is the claim. There is a mysterious refusal to discuss this substance on the part of the doctors who respond here. In fact, the entire topic of ibogaine and the reaction of the DEA, FDA, NIH and others is inexplicable to my way of thinking.

What's your beef?

Francoise

[petie]

Very good question 'bout job denial..very interested in answer
Also...can anybody please tell me about what is considered long term use of oxy and what is heavy usage amounts.
Also..what the long term effects and symtoms
Thanks

[to doc dan from joe]

Sorry to bust in on a thread but my post was deleted today.  I am going to apply for a new job and I am going to take a drug test.  I was wondering if anyone out there has been denied a job based on the legit use of prescribed pain meds.

[Jay-Jay]

Does anyone have a comment to the original question?  I have realized due to financial difficulties with this site that it is hard to start a new thread ... maybe that is why, don't know if it is true but I am just surmising...  I went to post one time and there was only like 2 new ones at most for the day and they said it would have to wait... Then I got a e-mail saying that they need money for support...  Don't know much about it since I don't post here ofen however I am curious.  Has anyone out there contributed? Let me know, real curious.. Have a nice weekend all and nice to read all our posts, real inspiring and life changing, thanks.... talk soon.....  

^j^ ^J^

[cindi]

Thanks,  I am glad they are ok,  please if you see them tell them I send them my love....that damn Chad has wiggled his way into my heart...LOL and he did send me some mail and I was trying to send some back to them and lost their e-mail address...last I heard from him, he was overjoyed about being invited to a barbeque  LOL....and to joec re: the job,  that is true,  about the pain meds being illegal only if they are not prescribed...my husband has never had a problem...I on the other hand have a history of being slapped with felonies so I have to really watch myself as the board of Pharmacy and DEA do not like me very much.....and the Pharmacy Board of Ohio has this thing for nurses that "divert" narcotics because the head honcho had his meds taken from him when he was a patient in the hospital...so he kinda has alot of resentments.....anyway  thanks for the info......love to all   cin

[joey25]

Chad and Deb are ok.  They're computer got ****** up like a week and a half ago, and still hasnt been fixed yet. But be assured that they are alive and well. We hung out yesterday, I'm sure that Chad will be back talking a lot of **** soon enough. LOL

[The Dude]

This is Chad B, not the other chad.  I too am concerend, i sent him an e-mail about a week ago and he hasn't responded.  That's wierd considering he lives on his computer just like I do.  I hope he's alright.  By the way, if you bring the prescription bottle to the lab where your drug test is being held, you will have no problems what-so-ever.  Prescription drugs are only illegal if you don't have a prescription for them.

[cindi]

how much do you honestly like it?  excellent point....I can use anything to the excess if I like it and sometimes if I don't like it all that much....