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Cold Turkey Starting SATURDAY"WOW"
Any advice anybody, taking 20-25 Hydro daily
Everyone is different , please remember this!!! To me that is the most important part, and the mindset...If u tell yourself I have enough, and IF YOU REALLY have enough, u can do this....If u could get you dose down to lets say 15 in a couple weeks ...That might be better...
Now, i am saying this about me, I was so scared of w/d's that i think i made it worst the first time, that is why i didn't make it....The second time, i read and read on this and other forums for months....I hated these pills, and put my mind to where it was different...That i was going to beat this ****, and a little pill was not going to control me, my thoughts, my dreams, my family, or my existence....Detoxing was not fun, and looking back, i thought once i did that i was free..NOT
SO my new theory is detoxing is nothing, compared to staying clean...
Now that is just me....
u do your best, as long as in the end u are clean
r2r
Now, i am saying this about me, I was so scared of w/d's that i think i made it worst the first time, that is why i didn't make it....The second time, i read and read on this and other forums for months....I hated these pills, and put my mind to where it was different...That i was going to beat this ****, and a little pill was not going to control me, my thoughts, my dreams, my family, or my existence....Detoxing was not fun, and looking back, i thought once i did that i was free..NOT
SO my new theory is detoxing is nothing, compared to staying clean...
Now that is just me....
u do your best, as long as in the end u are clean
r2r
I walked away cold turkey from a 20-30 10mgNorco daily habit - started doing opiates around 1969 and Vietnam - wasnt much fun but it didnt kill me either........didnt feel like investing a couple years more........it was time to stop
I say go for it...I don't see the difference in 14 a day to 20..w/d is w/d...you will be ok..Your mind is KEY to doing this...I went cold off methadone and 14 hydros a day...It sucks and you feel like **** but it is doable and within a weeks time you are going to start feeling better..maybe not 100% but you WILL feel better and you won't have the long drawn out process of tapering..that takes a whole lot of self control which most of us do not have...or we wouldn't be here...good luck..
tapering takes a lot of self-discipline. maybe that's why i never went past 30mgs a day on these things. the most i ever took in a day was 6 or 7 vicoprofens b/c my gf that i loved lied to me again and i just didn't want to feel anything. but, what is the point of takin 'em? you're just going to make it worse on yourself if you do not taper these things.
going turkey will be the worst experience of your life. even tapering from a chipper's dose will cause depression, especially if u were never that happy a person to begin with or if life challenges u too hard or u have a family history or other issues
i went off last apr when the girl i loved got engaged to someone else and i stayed off until august when i had to have real meds to deal w/ a staph infection that had me unable to move my arm (i was eating 12 aspirins a day just to deal w/ that pain). then after that it was like, wow, i feel a HELL of a lot better now on these. i'm not depressed about this relationship or how bad my job sucks. like i said, i cannot say these things haven't improved my life at times or my ability to cope. but, again, after being on for a few months, they stop helping much. u start having to take them JUST to avoid w/d. and, the stuff that is messing w/ ur head is still there and the narcs aren't even making that go away. so then it's time to get off. dunno if or when i'll go back on; i probably will at some point. i expect these things to be part of me until i just finally quit or else i croak of old age. forget it if i had a chronic pain condition. maybe i'd feel better w/ the self-esteem if i had a real reason other than i am down to take these things. real pain of wisdoms and braces was why i had to be on in the first place, b/c i couldn't eat solid food w/o real painkillers.
but, face facts, most ppl are masking something that is the reason they are on. for me it's a lousy attitude, feeling of failure, and vague depression and malaise. and, while the hydro is kicking, i am free from that. i could probably argue convincingly that this stuff is improving my QOL for a time, and that Hopkins doc was on morphine every day till he died and he was an eminent surgeon. it's not like if u can afford ur habit that it will destroy u as long as ur habit doesn't escalate. i always had the discipline to not take the whole bottle and god knows i've had enough of them at times to kill me and everyone i know from straight out OD, but i didn't do it. even OCs were too much for me...i didn't like bein high like that for 6 hrs straight. but when u are going thru a horrible divorce and ur ex is trying to take ur kids and everything u have and ruin u, man, the day i got served papers i of course knew it was coming but i started having kind of a panic attack. i went to the car where i had a FULL bottle of vic ESs and i took one. it made it all go away.
but these panics are a side effect in w/d sometimes. i think it's better to taper no matter how you do it. get help. get someone to ration u at the point of a gun or something. don't go at this alone, it's too much even for the most strong of us. if u knew me u'd say i was made of iron. the stories i could tell u about the divorce, my friends marvel that i kept it together at all. NOBODY believes i've been on narcs over the last 6 years almost continuously but never exceeding 30mg hydro a day on average. nobody can believe it. most ppl down the whole bottle and end up at 20 a day. i know ppl like that and they think i'm lying. i thank god on my knees that he blessed me w/ the strength and discipline to get thru some tough times w/ these things b/c narcs can take your soul and destroy you. i've kept to a chipper thru thick and thin, no matter how bad things got except for that one-time 7 vicoprofen night that i never did again. i guess, yeah, one time partying i took a couple OC 20s and chewed them but they just made me totally dizzy..no high or nothing.
i'd advise anyone w/ an addiction proclivity to avoid these things like the plauge b/c they will own you. u won't take the drug, the drug will take u. i feel for you all on this forum who lack whatever it is that i was fortunate by the grace of god to be born with and not go off the deep end. i skate on thin ice sometimes and go where angels fear to tread and i hope god is watching out for me and all of you and we can all find a way to beat this.
going turkey will be the worst experience of your life. even tapering from a chipper's dose will cause depression, especially if u were never that happy a person to begin with or if life challenges u too hard or u have a family history or other issues
i went off last apr when the girl i loved got engaged to someone else and i stayed off until august when i had to have real meds to deal w/ a staph infection that had me unable to move my arm (i was eating 12 aspirins a day just to deal w/ that pain). then after that it was like, wow, i feel a HELL of a lot better now on these. i'm not depressed about this relationship or how bad my job sucks. like i said, i cannot say these things haven't improved my life at times or my ability to cope. but, again, after being on for a few months, they stop helping much. u start having to take them JUST to avoid w/d. and, the stuff that is messing w/ ur head is still there and the narcs aren't even making that go away. so then it's time to get off. dunno if or when i'll go back on; i probably will at some point. i expect these things to be part of me until i just finally quit or else i croak of old age. forget it if i had a chronic pain condition. maybe i'd feel better w/ the self-esteem if i had a real reason other than i am down to take these things. real pain of wisdoms and braces was why i had to be on in the first place, b/c i couldn't eat solid food w/o real painkillers.
but, face facts, most ppl are masking something that is the reason they are on. for me it's a lousy attitude, feeling of failure, and vague depression and malaise. and, while the hydro is kicking, i am free from that. i could probably argue convincingly that this stuff is improving my QOL for a time, and that Hopkins doc was on morphine every day till he died and he was an eminent surgeon. it's not like if u can afford ur habit that it will destroy u as long as ur habit doesn't escalate. i always had the discipline to not take the whole bottle and god knows i've had enough of them at times to kill me and everyone i know from straight out OD, but i didn't do it. even OCs were too much for me...i didn't like bein high like that for 6 hrs straight. but when u are going thru a horrible divorce and ur ex is trying to take ur kids and everything u have and ruin u, man, the day i got served papers i of course knew it was coming but i started having kind of a panic attack. i went to the car where i had a FULL bottle of vic ESs and i took one. it made it all go away.
but these panics are a side effect in w/d sometimes. i think it's better to taper no matter how you do it. get help. get someone to ration u at the point of a gun or something. don't go at this alone, it's too much even for the most strong of us. if u knew me u'd say i was made of iron. the stories i could tell u about the divorce, my friends marvel that i kept it together at all. NOBODY believes i've been on narcs over the last 6 years almost continuously but never exceeding 30mg hydro a day on average. nobody can believe it. most ppl down the whole bottle and end up at 20 a day. i know ppl like that and they think i'm lying. i thank god on my knees that he blessed me w/ the strength and discipline to get thru some tough times w/ these things b/c narcs can take your soul and destroy you. i've kept to a chipper thru thick and thin, no matter how bad things got except for that one-time 7 vicoprofen night that i never did again. i guess, yeah, one time partying i took a couple OC 20s and chewed them but they just made me totally dizzy..no high or nothing.
i'd advise anyone w/ an addiction proclivity to avoid these things like the plauge b/c they will own you. u won't take the drug, the drug will take u. i feel for you all on this forum who lack whatever it is that i was fortunate by the grace of god to be born with and not go off the deep end. i skate on thin ice sometimes and go where angels fear to tread and i hope god is watching out for me and all of you and we can all find a way to beat this.
Hey Dan,
I'm on day 9 CT from 20 10/325 vics and around 16 50MG trammys per day give or take. It can be done the wost part for me is the depression and I have never had depression before, but I started feeling better yesterday. It can be done not discourage you but it has been pure hell. There is no way I could taper, if I had em I would take em. Good luck let me know if I can help in any way.
I'm on day 9 CT from 20 10/325 vics and around 16 50MG trammys per day give or take. It can be done the wost part for me is the depression and I have never had depression before, but I started feeling better yesterday. It can be done not discourage you but it has been pure hell. There is no way I could taper, if I had em I would take em. Good luck let me know if I can help in any way.
dude...if you try to turkey this you are going to suffer like there is no tomorrow.
taper. 20-25? how is your liver still functional? i took on average 3 norcs a day for yrs and turkey even made me think of killin myself. just taper. do yourself a favor and don't try to be superman w this ****.
your body acquires a real physical dependency to this **** and you have to wean it off. take far smaller doses, only what you need to avoid w/d. the w/d is what makes ppl go back. so if u have to take one pill to make the w/d fade, take ONE. not 5 or 10. one.
then cut them in halves and do that. make the choice but if you put yourself thru the max pain you are going to reach for the bottle again and pull the ripcord. u'll start sayin **** to yourself like 'this is no big deal, it's not ruining my life, i am fine, it's just drugs everybody does drugs.' fk that. taper
taper. 20-25? how is your liver still functional? i took on average 3 norcs a day for yrs and turkey even made me think of killin myself. just taper. do yourself a favor and don't try to be superman w this ****.
your body acquires a real physical dependency to this **** and you have to wean it off. take far smaller doses, only what you need to avoid w/d. the w/d is what makes ppl go back. so if u have to take one pill to make the w/d fade, take ONE. not 5 or 10. one.
then cut them in halves and do that. make the choice but if you put yourself thru the max pain you are going to reach for the bottle again and pull the ripcord. u'll start sayin **** to yourself like 'this is no big deal, it's not ruining my life, i am fine, it's just drugs everybody does drugs.' fk that. taper
dan you have made a great decision....may i ask what mgs you are taking 5's 7.5's 10's? I was taking about that much on 7.5's and I tapered b/c that is a lot to c/t off of and i have a little one to care for and was working at the time. I am GLAD I did it. I am glad you are doing it. I have been using the vitamins/aminos and all of that. My exercise has been running around w/my toddler and my therapy is posting on here. So post all the questions you can and read all you can...but have a PLAN and follow it!
best of luck to you!
best of luck to you!
thats alot, i don't mean to discourage you, but u might want to think about the tapering, like i have the answers! ha! i am STILL taking 7-8 a day and quiting that scares me.!
i hope just writing here starts to motivate me! this secret addiction is destroying me...
i hope just writing here starts to motivate me! this secret addiction is destroying me...
great!!! you are gonna get your life back. i will tell you it is hard, but worthit. do check out the aminos and vitamins...they help alot. and posting here helps too. for the aches and stuff take hot baths with epsom salt. and start walking as much as you can. the exercise helps. and eat bananas for potassium. good luck... we have all been there.
cathy
cathy
agree with Rick. You can find the Amino's here: http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Addiction/Amino-Acid-Protocol/show/15?cid=66
Just about everything needs to be repaired.
Are you tapering or are you going c/t off 20-25 on Sat?
Just about everything needs to be repaired.
Are you tapering or are you going c/t off 20-25 on Sat?
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