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Yes your right admitting the problem is the first step, ( and you and him are not alone in this world), but can I ask you a qestion?......if I told you I had an eating problem ( I don't I'm 110 pds)....but if I did and said to you, that I need to not work or bring in an income, not just for me but my family, so I would have no money to "over abuse on eating" would that make sense to you?......
Yes he has made the right step as far as I can see, admitting he is powerless/ and has a problem, now what?....next?.....my son was 4 when I left my husband who was a junkie, and I went on to build a nice life for us both, he is 25 now, my best girlfriend whos husband was also a junkie, sought help thru NA, Narcotics....and AA, her and I were married at the same time, she has 3 beautiful children know, and thru the program he has been 17 yrs sober, and there marriage is solid as a rock, and they will be celebrating there 29th here soon, so it depends on you, and your relationship, and where you choose to draw the line.....I choose out, but I knew for me it was the best choice, as he was very abusive, but yours maybe different, and if your seeking help, theres plently out there for you, may you find it, and be forever happy.
Kathy
1. NO MONEY, GET HIM TO AGREE THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN GET HIS CHECK, EMPLOYER INVOLVED, NO ACSESS TO BANK, NAME OFF CHECKING, NO CARDS IN HIS NAME OR AVALIBLE, HIDE THESE ITEMS ALSO, NO MONEY NO BUYING.
2. NO DRINGING, NO POT, NO CRACK, YOU CANT DO ONE AND IT NOT LEAD TO ANOTHER.
3. NO FREINDS AROUND WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DRINKING OR DRUGS, STAY AWAY FROM THEM.
4. GET HELP, AN ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY COMES FROM OTHER ISSUES, DEPRESSION, HIDDING FROM LIFE, OR MANY OTHER THINGS FIND A PSYCIATRST TO HELP HIM WITH THE TRUE UNDERLINING PROBLEMS HE IS HIDING FROM BY ABUSE.
5. DISCOVER LIFE WITH OUT DRUGS OR DRINKING, DO FUN THINGS TOGETHER, HIKING, CAMPING, FISHING, PARK, OR ANYTHING. HE HAS TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH OUT DRUGS, WHEN THE DRUGS ARE GONE THE FUN OF LIFE IS EVIDENT BELEAVE ME.
6. HE HAS TO COME CLEAN, HE NEEDS TO ADMIT HIS ADDICTION TO YOU, FAMILY, FREINDS, THEY WILL HELP IF HE IS WILLING TO HELP HIM SELF, BUT REMIMBER THERE WILL BE FALL BACKS. DONT GIVE UP.
7. AND IF YOU OR FAMILY HAVE NEVER BEEN AN ADICT TO DRUG LIKE CRACK YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT POWERS YOU ARE FIGHTING, AND IT IS STONGER THAN ANYTHING I KNOW, IT IS HARD THAN ANYTHING YOU KNOW.
YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS GOING THROUGH SO GET INFORMATION, BOOKS, AND PEOPLE WHO NOW.
8 HE HAS TO REALY WANT TO QUIT, I MEAN REALY, AND THESE STEPS CAN HELP.
I AM TWO YEARS FREE OF CRACK, AND THAT TOOK TWO YEARS OF FIGHTING BY ME, MY WIFE, AND MY FAMILY. AND MANY FALL DOWNS.
THANK HIM FOR THE GOOD HE DOES, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE GOOD IN HIM AGAIN, MY WIFE SAVED MY LIFE. YOU WILL HAVE TO BE STRONG, AND LOVE HIM ALOT TO MAKE IT THROUGH THIS, YOU LOCAL COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR THE PHONE BOOK UNDER DRUGS FOR AGENCYS THAT CAN HELP.
TELL HIM HE CAN DO IT, AND SAID SO. I DID AND DID THEM ALL, LIFE IS EASIER AND FUNNER WITH OUT DRUGS AND YOU WILL AGREE WHEN YOU REACH THE POINT I AM AT FIGHT IT AND GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU WIFE FOR CAREING FOR YOU THAT MUCH THATS REAL LOVE.
I was doing it every day for 2 years straight and then occasionally,If you never had to overcome an addiction its hard for you to be able to understand.Your husband is gonna have to hit rock bottom probably a few times.Before he actually quits.Just be patient if you can and realize it took him along time to become an addict,it will be twice as long getting overt it.Please email me if you want to talk.I think I can help.
Tony R sky @aol.com
1. he drops me off from work at night, and doesnt pick me up in the morning
2. After he get paid from work he is missing in action for up to 2 weeks at a time
3. He works in construction and is constantly laid off/looses his job due to absentee
4. He has stole money from me in the past about 6,000
5. He sold one of his cars that his mother gave him, and doesnt want to talk about it he sees the car in the street and gets upset that he cant touch it
6. He has secret friends that I cant meet, the ones I saw on the other side of town looks like crack heads
7. He comes home from hanging out very skinny in appearance.
8. His hands are always hard and burnt. ( HE TELLS ME ITS FROM CONSTRUCTION)
9. He talks about coke heads as if they are disgusting
10. He denies doing coke now, he tells me he just drives around in his mercedez benz all day and night drinking and smoking weed
11. He talks as if he is better than his associates that have problems with crack
12. He gets offended when I ask him if he uses crack
13. Sometimes when I look at him he looks very depressed and sad, when I ask him whats wrong he says nothing to me
14. He keeps telling me he wants to move out of NY
15. He is in and out of jail for possession of crack/coccaine. twice this year (i dont know if its crack or coccaine)
16. He has no goals, I try to get him to take a vacation and its like pulling teeth
17. He lost his very best friend 6 yrs to heroin addiction and is hurt about that
18. three of his friends died on overdoses this year alone, and suicide attempts
19. He tells me he is suicidal, and when i say Im tired of living my life worrying about him he doesnt try to make me feel less depressed, he makes me more depressed. He is no support to me.
20. His family only says that he does coke and its not crack
21. Alot of people in his family are coke and crack addicts, his step father died of coke overdose, and his biological father died of HIV AIDS and was into coke too
22. He knows all the crack spots
23. Alot of drug dealers call his phone, he keeps his cell hidden from me
24. He spends alot of time with his worthless crack head uncles, in which his family has abandonded, he is the only one who connects with them
25. He talks bad about his crack head uncles, calling them loosers and good for nothing
26. He always brags about my job cuz I make a lot of money, tries to live off of me, I dont make that much and he doesnt contribute to any bills.
27. When he comes home he cooks and cleans a lot, but cant help me with the bills. He swears uop and down that he never cheats on me.
28. He has a gay coccaine addict friend that is more functional then him he is ablet o hold down a job, I dont like him b/c he tried to come on to me and him. But my BF still hangs out with him, and tells me he is a good friend and when he dont have money his gay friend helps him out
WHAT IS THIS,!!!I GIVE UP I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK OF ALL HIS BEHAIVOR PLEASEEE HELP ME SOMEONE!!!!
His symptoms to me seem more intense than coke, I dont do drugs, can someone help me.
Yes you can stop for good. I smoked everyday for 2 years, and havent smoked for the past 3.
I moved to a different state and change all my numbers.
LS
******** Ok, I just read your question again, and shame all over him. Him saying that not working will help? um...no. So you are supposed to suffer the financial burden as well as deal with trying to keep your family together? NO! If anything tell him to hand you his paychecks when he gets them. Becuase I can PROMISE you that even if he has no money, he will find a way. I know people that are crack addicts, i dont hang out with them, but i have heard that they would STEAL CRACK FROM CRACKHEADS to get high, pawn ****....and so whatever else they could to get high.
At this point you need to sit him down and figure out a plan of attack on his addiction. And let him know that you will be there to help, but also make it clear that you are not stupid, and that you are not going to except anything less than his best attempt to beat this. Do not allow yourself to start feeling like your are failing him, becaue that card will get played. At some point this will somehow become your fault. Even though its not.
If he is serious, then he should have no problem sitting with you and figuring out plans of attack to beat it. You both need to be one the same page, and sadly you are going to have to moniter him, his actions, and who he hangs around.
This is something I know a pretty large ammount on. So if you want to talk, let me know. I have never done it, but I know way to many people that have.
So if you have anything you want to know, or any questions, please make a post directed to me and we will talk.
:)
Just be patient, and listen. Dont push your feelings onto him about. But also let him know that
That scared me because he has never said anything like that and included our son in it in that way of talking. Recently he got mad at me and told me that he almost said to himself "forget her and him." personally I have heard of people getting angry with their spouses and saying forget that person, but I don't hear often of people including their children in their anger against their spouses.
we are seperated and have been for 8 months. he rarely called to check on our son. then he lost his job and started calling all the time but only to talk to me until my son answers the phone this way now "i know. you want to speak to mommy."
he had moved a man into our apartment who was supposedly helping him pay the rent when he lost his job. he says that man moved a woman into the apartment. when my husband was down to no money and losing the apartment he asked me to come back with our son so we could see if we could secure a place through social services. I told him i wouldn't come back with a man and woman living in my son's room that i don't know.
He said that when he told them i was coming back, the man staged an argument with the woman and supposedly rose up at my husband. during the argument, the man left and never came back. the woman was supposedly homless. that is why the man moved her in but told my husband that she was there for a couple of days till she got into school. it turns out she lied.
then i felt bad and said well i don't want to be responsible for putting someone on the street. I said she could stay. I would come back anyway. well he took this and ran with it over the past week or so. she was still there until apparently 2 days ago according to him. I have no way of verifying his stories because we live in two different states.
the reason i didn't go back was because i slept on my decision and decided that it was not wise. and then i talked to my brother who thinks that they were all having a chemical party.
like i said, he has gotten worst and not better which is why i left in the first place. he is someone i don't know anymore. so i decided that instead of being alone in another state with him where he could isolate me and my son with the help of this woman, i am better off with my support system here where i am.
he is now saying he is getting kicked out in 3 days and she is gone and he is trying to stay where i am staying, but i am afraid because he is manipulative and very very clever. he says whatever he thinks someone wants to hear. we are losing our home here in the city where me and my son stay. when he left to go to the new state in the first place, he said he wasn't coming back. but then we moved in with him down there when he said things would be better for a new environment but it got worst so i came back.
I recently got employed and i need my mind to work as i work with children. when i am around him, my depression gets out of control. now i am looking for professional help so that i am not fighting any of this stuff without professionals being involved because i am tired of simply consulting with and relying on my family who has been wonderful and the people God has used to help stand me on my feet through all of this.
I want to tell him that I will not be able to continue our relationship without professional help on his part as well. But I fear that he is not ready. he has lost so much but he is unemotional about everything and trivializes the things that he has done as well as not admitting his problems.
his whole family has left him over these issues. he doesn't have a relationship with any of them. and his sister warned me about his ways before we married. i thought that she was being mean because she cussed him out in the middle of the street which i thought was uncalled for so i ignored what she was saying.
he is in his 50's now and he has been at this for some time. my friend said you can't stop at some point. that it becomes life sustaining. we've never really had a great relationship but somehow i keep hanging on.
i actually want out now but i don't want anything bad to happen to him. he has no family that he talks to outside of me. he has lost everyone's trust and even has on /off relationships with his friends.
sometimes i am afraid that everything out of his mouth is a lie. he says so many things that are unreasonable just like expecting me to come back with our son to a 2 bedroom apartment with a woman in her 30's and a man in his 40's (no one working mind you) that i don't know living in our son's room. (facing homelessness as the rent has not been paid) when I shake myself i realize that it can't be a reasonable person talking and expecting these things from me.
they say that people only go as far as you let them. i am afraid that apparently i have never really drawn the line. so i feel that this time, my line is that i don't want to live with him at this point and only want him to get help and to stay away from us until he does that.
only i know that he is not ready. he seems to really enjoy that type of life and has said that. he thinks that he is a functional person. when he has money, he doesn't know that we are gone. after 8 months he asked has it been that long? he said it seemed like 4. he hadn't even cooked a meal. he ate shrimp, steak and lobster and gave me maybe $200 for our son. he went through thousands and thousands because he had a great job. he doesn't see how he has done me so bad.
i am tired now. and i need to stay strong for my son and give him a life as even in another state, he has managed to get money from me since he has been without any. he doesn't even ask. he just says "you got to give me this or that because I don't have...)"
I stopped doing it however and he asks "how can you do this to me?"
We've been together for 17yrs. 10 of which we've been married. This addction has caused so many problems, all of which I assume people can relate to. My question is am I a fool for trying to keep the marriage intact? What can I do? I have adpated to his behavior to some degree and I think that
at some point thins will change for the better. He has indeed admitted to this problem and has said he's going to get help. I know however, that this a ploy or dope fiend psychology in order to keep me around. He has never stole from me or anyone else that I am aware of, but he spends most of his money on this drug. It makes no sense and frankly I am fed-up. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Well, I decided that i wanted to live and not die and declare the works of the LORD. see, folks,. in order to enjoy life -you must be here. I know i can't depend on my husband to make decisions for me so i made arrangements for him not to have that power due to him being on crack. I had his name removed from the deed of my property because he would give it over to the drug dealers(his friends) to use as they please. I took my van away from him and you can believe there was a whole lot of drama behind that. I bought myself a cell phone and had the house phone disconnected. He never called me. But he called the dope dealers and his so called "customers" that he did work for. And I put in in life insurance. And yesterday, I had him served with involuntary alcohol and drug commitment papers for him to be in court next week to send him to rehab. Now you know that this has been Oscar award winning drama since yesterday. I've been accused of getting "RID" of him for my lovers, he ran to his mom's house lying, he threatened to "lowgrade" me in court,etc. But even in the face of no support from my family, low key support from his family, his verbal abuse--I will move forward. You see, i have been told by a lot o people that a crackhead has to want to be free. I agree but what about his wife, his family-where is their freedom because they are in the trenches too but they don't get the benefits of the high. Send them to rehab for yourself not them. Seek help and groups who really know what you are going through and don't be afraid to let your loved ones know and tell them they are CRACKHEADS. Identify the problem(mountain) and then speak to that mountain and tell it its got to go. But you need the Power of Jesus' name to move this mountain. No rehab is not the answer its just a healing period for you and if they grab hold to the truth in rehab-its all good. But 45 days compared to one moment in God's presence is nothing. Its in God's presence that healing takes place. You get in God's presence-you welcome and receive the healing and the grace (much grace) to stand until your loved one accepts the Way, The Truth and The Life. You may have to remove them from your home in order to keep your sanity. Get the police to help. IF he has old fines remind the court systems so they can pick them up and get them off the streets and clear your home. It sounds cruel but you have got to be firm. Say what you mean and mean what you say. They won't like you but guess what they don't like you any way because crack doesn't like you and it came to steal, kill, and destroy them and their family. They don't realize that they are bound. The strong man has been bound. I telling you that's what's going on. I went through this Hell to come out on the other side to shout and declare to all,"Live, Live, in Jesus' name. You don't have to divorce your spouse but you can let them go on a live the life they want and you be in peace. Just make sure you legally cover all bases so they can get anything because they will through it all away. Seperate your self if you need to and if you aren't married to the crackhead-RUN don't cry RUNNNNNN for your life. Find someone and marry and stop selling yourself short and living in sin. You are taking on drama that ain't even yours. What's love got to do with it? Your love isn't enough to save yourself or anybody and it can't change a person. Only God's love is eternal and everlasting. Its' the only Love that can hold up to what life brings. Come out the pit and you will be suprised at how clean the blood of Jesus can make you. don't loose your soul over another person's problems.Stop enabling them and help them by helping yourself.
Please feel free to email me because we have a common bond. We were once the victims but now by the mercies of God WE ARE THE VICTORS. WE are more than conquerors. Look in the mirror and see peace -the peace of God on your face and say," I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" Let's L-I-V-E.
i did read him the riot act, took my set of keys back from him, told him to call me when he's clean & sober, and had been saying stuff like that for about a week before i actually did call the cops. the hopes i expressed to the cops were that if they can find evidence of narcotics, that they arrest and the people who are responsible for buying and selling so that they will be ordered into rehab. if my bf gets caught up in it, perhaps it will shake him...this is not the first time the police have been called, the bf keeps going back for more, says he needs "space."
i have always thought of him as honest, timid maybe, shy, but honest. when i read these posts and reflect back on some of the arguments we have had--my asking for him to be more respectful & considerate, and his reaction is often a knee-jerk insult instead of trying to please -- and he does not contribute financially, dz not work, etc. i wonder.
when we are apart things do change for the better, then we miss one another and get back tog. we were apart for four years, neither of us too happy about it, we've been back "tog" for over a year, with a break for 2 months. he came back in sept, with all kind of hopes and promises for change, then 2 weeks ago or so was back at the crackhouse. the crackhouse seemed a bit cleaner, but it's still a crackhouse. it's almost as if the house sucks the soul out of its inhabitants.
As an addict/alcoholic, daughter of an addict/alcoholic and wife of one, I know that it saved me. I go to BOTH AA and AL A NON. Now, I know that their problems are not and do not have to be MINE. I have my own issues to deal with.
I will pray for you.......
Google al a non and find a meeting in your area. You don't have to speak if you don't want to. Go and listen. It's worth a shot. It's a fmaily disease and everyone in the addict's life is affected one way or another.
police station at our house all the time because he would get violent and I would just get tired of physically fighting so I would call this the police. Of course, yours truly or his mom woulld pay the fine and get him out.And thus the rollercoaster would begin two days later and it was up and down, up and down until Dec. 2006 until today. I realized that this lifestyle was desirable for him-he liked it, he enjoyed it and he didn't want to let it go BUT I wasn't even a factor in his decision. So I began to put myself in the equation of life-MY LIFE. When you begin to think for yourself-please be prepared for him or her to all of a sudden get all religious and manipulative on you. But you have the trunk card if you didn't know it. You seek out someone you can confide in. By now you know who it is and it might help if you don't tell his family members I don't care how close you all are your plans.WHY?
Because you have been dealing with him all this time and they were on the outside looking in, okay.? He was YOUR problem. It was YA'LL'S business/mess to deal with. Well, when they began to see that He will become the FAMILY PROBLEM they will turn on you and make you feel guilty. So I already went through that already and so I am here to pass that on to all that might have not thought of this outcome. All of a sudden its You against the sick one. Be wise. Be discreet. Be about getting yourself some help.We need each other to make it because it strengthens someone else who might get broadisided by all this crazy stuff. I am yet pressing and I encourage myself daily. By faith, I AM OUTTA THIS MESS and my future, your future, our future is soooooo bright
we have to wear shades. Take care.