Day 15

[refusingbondage]

Today is 15 days off suboxone.  I wrote early this morning in my journal about being thankful for being alive after thinking back to all the tragedy I've seen come upon people because of addiction.  I am still thankful.  I got a wave of sickness this afternoon.  Yesterday I was feeling a bit better.  I actually fell down today cause my legs gave out.  Anyone have that with withdrawal?  I felt like an idiot but it made me laugh.  This is so not easy.  Shakes and shivers are back in full force and the anxiety is here too.  Thank God it's Friday and thank God I made it to the end of today.  

[worried878]

Exercise for stress and depression....after i quit..probably 30 days post...i could not shake the fatigue and yuckiness..i re-read the amino protocol and stocked up and took the amount recommended..which is alot of pills each day...i was taking the supps but  barely touching the recommended doses...when i did and upped my activity...things changed..and for the better

[tony1964]

so far, I have cut down on my dosage by 1mg. so since I am at 4mg/day,my next dosage will be 3mg and....when I cut down from 5mg to 4mg, I didn't feel any WD. So hopefully it will be like this down the road. Thanks and have a great weekend.I'll get back to you again if I have any other questions.

[refusingbondage]

Hi.  Thanks for your information.  I dont think its an iron deficiency though.  I had my blood tested a few months ago and all was well.  Moms a diabetic and i eat a diet of zero sugar and lots of lean protein so Im always checking on things.  Im pretty active, but who knows.  I am tired all the time.. but i dont know if it was from the sub and now no sub.  I have low blood pressure normally and the sub only made it lower so maybe its from the spike in the blood pressure.  honestly my gut tells me its my brain trying to get right.  All the nerves and chemicals freaking out without their drug.
Thank you!

[broknbck]

I actually had the same feeling quite often of your legs giving out under neath you. although i never fell always managed to stay on my feet. but my legs would wobble.

The problem wasn't from the drugs at all. it was a severe iron deficancy. totally anemic and my doctor was wanting to put me in the hospital for it. maybe you should have your iron checked. are you so tired all the time that you can fall asleep in a chair?

Although it may also be from withdrawl, but that was my experience.
hope you are feeling better soon.

[refusingbondage]

My final dosage was 1 mg.   (A 2mg tablet cut in half).  I would not stop at 4mg.  From what Ive learned over the past week the lower the better.  A friend describes taking a "crumb" a day before jumping all together.  You might have minor wd tapering from 4 to 2 to 1 to .5 (I did) but it will not be as bad as stopping at 4.  I cannot stress how bad that might be.  Find out from others before you decide anything and good luck!

[refusingbondage]

that is fantastic advice.  It never occurred to me do research re south east asia opium abusers.  will definitley look into it.  As far as the skydiving.. Never in this lifetime.  LOL.  This city girl does not play that way.  I know the sinking to the floor experience.  I walked around all day feeling like I was an imposter in someone elses body.   Thank you for advice.  It will be well taken.

[tony1964]

what was your final dosage of subs that you stopped? I am currently taking 4mg/day and I wonder how I would feel if I stop at this dosage !!!!

[scarlett_nothing]

hey, we seem very parallel on the whole thing! day 15 has shown a return for the shakes and chills for me too. i thought it would be up and onward from day 14....but it's like day8 all over again.  i'm also getting really vivid nightmares in the few hours i sleep. and regret type feelings through the day....
i guess it's gotta get better soon so we just have to hang in there! deep breathing does help, i catch myself doing silly short breaths, and getting anxious, and have to stop and breathe really deep and slow.
i haven't done the amino's yet either, i can't find them anywhere near where i live, i may end up having to buy them online. will do that today.....
lets hope day 16 shows signs of improvement! we can do it!

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

I hear you about years ago - i can fix the heights fear...come on down and we can get some skydiving done..that will do it! Some of the amino's are very good for anxiety also. And the others are just plain good for you. Are you actually doing breathing exercises or are you just deep breathing? There is a difference. And yes - i did have one episode that was not like I had experienced before - as I was walking it seemed like i was slowly sinking into the floor! It was a wierd time..... Most public libraries have DVD's of breathing exercises - and also cho gong and tai chi - this stuff does help....the monks in Southeast Asia have been messing with opium eaters for centuries - they know some things that western medicine does not ...good luck to you - eagle

[refusingbondage]

no i havent been on the amino acids.  im going to read about them now. I try deep breathing.  but it doesnt help much.  it just hits for no reason at all and i feel like im standing on the ledge of a mountain about to jump (my greatest fear is heights) so its utter panic and i cant get my head around it.  havent experienced it before with any other withdrawal so that and the other emotional dark stuff is very new and disabling to me. thank you for the encouragement.  i wish i had found this site years ago, but am thankful for it now

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Are you doing the amino acids? I found those to be quite helpful. Can you do some breathing exercises for the anxiety? Those helped me a lot. You have done well and TGIF indeed. Also best of luck to you....PM anytime with questions or whatever...many are on the forum that were where you are a short while back..you can do it also --- And you are so correct,,,you started me thinking of all the people I know that died because of this issue. I was almost one of them. Waking in the Er on life support with your son asking the Doc "Is my dad going to die?" is a real eye-opener!!! This must be done for survival...