Day 3 for me - Where is everyone else at in their struggle

[Chezz]

I hope everyone else out their right now detoxing is as comfortable as possible. I know how bad it can get. Believe me, I have been having a tough time dealing with this too.

This forum has been a great help every minute, day, ect. after I found this site.

Thanks to all for your help and support.
Chezz

[groovygirl]

you will find "thomas' recipe" by doing a search of this forum.  you can get all of the ingredients at your local health food store, and you can start it right away - BEFORE you take your last darvon.  

if you don't want to go cold turkey, you could just be straight with your doctor.  if you are, perhaps he/she will prescribe enough that you can slowly taper off the stuff.  darvon is an opiate - yes it's a mild one compared to percs or vics, but it is addicting.  any opiate is addicting.  you should be honest with your dr. no matter how you decide to go.  it is amazing how uplifting it is to confess your addiction to your dr., family and friends.  i really feel that unless you do that, you can never maintain sobriety for any length of time.  good luck to you...

[Paige]

I am hooked on DARVON, about 15 to 20 a day and my doctor / pharmacices / all of them / just seems to catch on to this. My supply was just abrubtly cut off and I only have 5 DARVON left. This was going to be my last script of 60 I was going to taper off this time.

Would anyone know what kind of withdrawal I will go thrugh?

I have a lot of family obligations this week that I can not miss. No one in my family knows about this last relapes, and I have four kids to take care of. What am I going to do. I hear DARVON is a mild drug. I dont know how I got so hook on it. Can anyway give me some advice.


PAIGE

[Sean5110]

Congratulations. I remember reading a couple of weeks ago your struggles and it is so encouraging to see what can happen over time if I can just stick to the plan. It's so cool to see that you are giving your new baby the greatest gift possible: a mom who is there and sober. Thanks again for your posts.

[OxyDout]

HEY, this might sound stupid, I don't know if you have the same restless leg symptoms, but mine are mostly built up on the outer side of my left knee.  So when I go to bed, I lock my left foot in between where the mattress ends and the bed frame begins, I do it so it keeps a low tension on my leg, this helps stop the restlessness................

[Tuss-ex]

Congrats it is my 14th day also.  I have used the L-Tyrosine and a MultiVitamin and also motrin, but that is all.  As for the problems when you go to bed, yeah I think they are real.  I have had to leave the bed several times during the night and sleep on the couch because it was like I was playing soccor in the bed.  Except for a few headaches and the crazy leg thing my physical stuff seems to be behind me.  I am starting to try excersising before bed, concentrating on the legs, my theory is if they are to tired then maybe they won't feel like moving about.

The mental stuff is crazy sometimes...I am very committed to staying clean, but will I ever wake up in the morning where the first thing that I think of is not taking something... I mean I have had dreams about using...vivid...in fact that has been the hardest craving I have had to fight....

Everyone hang in there....
God Bless

[Chezz]

Where is everyone. I am wondering if I will make it now.
I will find out in about an hour or so.

I want to move on. But I still need help with the pain. And of course the addiction. The reason I stopped in the 1st place was to really see where I was at with the pain. Then to ask myself if I am taking them for pain of pleasure.

I don't know what to do.

HHHHHHEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Chezz

[Chezz]

Tuss-ex thanks for the help.

My doc is fully aware about my feelings of taking the meds for pain and taking them to stave off the withdrawls. That is why I talked to him on mon. I told him about stopping the meds and seeing where I was at with the pain. He was surprised to say the least. He understands though. pain/addiction/dependency are tough issues. I made it clear that I wanted to clear my head(no meds) and then see where I was at.

I did end up getting 20 percocets to help with the pain. Seeing as how I was taking 8-10 aday before, I would be out in a couple of days. But I did 4 days with no meds, so I am going to make sure not to take more than 4-6. I shouldn't need more since I did it without the meds.

I feel weird. Like I did something wrong. But I talked to my wife after I got home. She is behind me 100%. She sees the pain I am in. I told her that I felt like I failed, and just confused.

I am so confused. I need the meds for pain. Yet I know I have abused them.

I can't wait until I am healthier again. I love the feeling that I had made it through 4 days with no problem. Except for the pain.

I just need to find a good neurosurgeon. Somebody who just gives out meds, a copy of the atkins diet and schedules a follow in a couple weeks.

Chezz

[Tuss-ex1]

It is okay... The best advice I can give you is to have a very frank discussion with your doctor about your pain and you addiction concern.  I believe there must be a way for you to find peace both mentally and pyhsically (sp). You are taking the first steps in a VERY HARD process. You are stronger than the addiction and a good doctor can help manage the pain in a way that will allow you to achieve your goals.  Many times we lose a battle here and there, just don't surrender and lose the war...

I will pray for your comfort...

God Bless

[bmac]

Congrats! It does feel better,I know.Being straight has it's advantages also.Better health for one,which you need now. Remember that we are human and can have weak moments.
Don't let them fool you again.It looks like the mindgames have stopped Tammy and they are much harder than the w'd's.
Glad to hear you made it.
                          30 days straight and lovin'it,
                                   bmac(Bill)

[tammygirl30]

good morning everyone, just wanted to drop a note to say that this is the first morning ive woke up and feel wonderful, thanks to my new pregnancy i have no desire to take anything not even a tylenol what a blessing i dont know where id be if i wasnt, i feel great im sleeping good, im eating like a horse lol, and i am so proud that i conquored this monster! its been about 2 weeks! good luck to all of you in this fight, if i can do it anyone can, im a weakling and have been an energy junkie since i was in my teens!! take care tammy

[Whisky]

Hi,

Today is my 14th day detoxing from darvocets (& perccosets/vicodin) and it hasn't been that bad except i've been real knowed out from the clonidine patch, and too tired to function.  I have been taking klonopin and trazadone at night for sleep; and for the most part, my sleep has been good.

Last night was my first agitative sleep really...I was jumping arund like jelly bean...felt like crawling out of my skin; was tired but my body would just not let me sleep...at 3 AM I took another klonopin, benadryl and dioxem which they gave me - and STILL - my body could not relax.

I must have fallen asleep at 5 AM and had to awake at 9 AN - I don't do well on 4 hours sleep and I was verrry tired today; I figured I'd not try to sleep to save it for tonight; but once again, here I am at the computer because my body is jumpy.  This is the 14th day so I'm wondering if it's mental????  

It's really driving me crazy...and I know if I had darvocets in the house; I would have relapsed by now because of the sleeplessness; Help !!!

Liza

[Chezz]

Thanks for the words.

To be honest, this is NOTHING compared to any of my other withdrawls. Which is a ton. I dextox for a day or 2 before I was able to get another script.

Mind you, the 3 days before I stopped I took 8 the 1st day(didn't get meds till after 5) the next day 24(for fun) and 18 the last day. I did this so my med supply would be out on mon. morning. Then I could detox while my wife is working. Instead of her seeing me look **** on the weekend. Although she comes home everyday for lunch.

So needless to say I have been using the meds alotted, which is about a 5 day supply of valium. Taking the vitamins, as well as wellbutrin, and am feeling Like I am detoxing, but in a more comfortable way.

What is ironic about that is some people like hillary in a post below said she was so happy that the withdrawls weren't so bad after she tryed the amino acid. That she can't wait to continue using as soon as she can.    

I am free, almost. Until you are completely free from all of these meds, you are still a slave to them.

You are free when you wake up and have a routine that involves anything but taking any medication to make you "feel" better. In my opinion, this includes the meds given to help detox.
Regards
Chezz

[Witchywoman]

Congrats on getting to day 3.  Day 3 was the hardest for me when I went through it, but after day 3, things really started to look up, slowly but surely.

I have a lot of faith in you. Just keep doing it five minutes at a time if you have to and you will get back to your light.

love,
WW

[Chezz]

I just wanted to let you know that I have been taking the "recipe" partially, valium 10mg x2 day, and IBF 800, for the moderate pain I am still having. Of course the IBP isn't working, but if it is helping at all for the pain that is all I care about.

This is just my take on getting clean safely.

Do take the multivitamin, B6, L-Lysine, valium or eg., and immodium. A couple puffs every now and then helps too.
But the main thing that I think has helped as well is that I also started to take Wellbutrin a couple days before I stopped.
I have had minor depression compared to the usual "ride of your life".
I also have been reading up on it becoming the next big breakthrough in addiction medicine. It is said to help beat the cravings, depression, ect. that is common to all types of addiction withdrawl.

And to be bluntly honest right now. I think it has curbed the usual (as someone said b4) "I would sell my soul for another pill"

Personally I haven't had any real cravings for the meds, except for yesterday. But overall it has staved those off for now.

I believe it.
Chezz

[Chezz]

Congrats on your sobriety. I am sure that it was hard to get off the meds. But to not return to alchohol is a real testament to your determination to live your life clean and to the fullest.

It is hard everyday. It was twice as hard before when I was on meds though.

Good luck and stay clean and HAPPY,
Chezz

[Witchywoman]

Chez, you've got the one ingrediant that we all forget to include in the recipe....motivation!  That is probably the single most important factor in being successful. You have to want to get clean more than anything else in the world. When you want it bad enough, you can do it. Then you have to keep wanting it.

I got real mad the first time someone said that to me, but they were right, and when I was ready , it worked.

I had recently decided to take oxy again for my back pain, because it got so bad I couldn't walk and wound up in the ER.
This was right before my one year anniversary of being clean.
I took it for about a week, then stopped. I stopped because my pain level went down to a more tolerable place, but also because I could not handle the thought of being physically dependant on anything ever again.

Keep reaching Chez..day 4 is just around the corner, and you will feel way, way better. You can do it!

love,
WW

[Chezz]

Witchy,
Thanks for the support. You are right, I hope!
And you are right. When you are ready, you are ready. That doesn't mean these last 2 days have been easy. They haved been extremely emotional at times, just flat out hard. So will the days to come.

The main thing that I think has helped is that I want to see the world without blinders anymore.

It is so much easier when you "really" want to be free. When you finally realize you are not yourself anymore. Then you have to want the back.

Keeping positive and thanking yourself for 1 good thing you did today can help.

Personally I made it through another day. For that I am happy.

What motivates you...
Chezz

[Chezz]

Thanks for reminding me. When you said you were still having trouble with the depression. It reminded me about taking my wellbutrin.
It is kind of funny how I knew how many percs I had, had taken that day(most of the time ;) and how many I can take a day till my next script. Yet I have a hard time remembering when to take these other pills that are here to HELP. Not hurt like the pain meds.
I also struggle with the pain vs. taking meds issue like I said before. My conclusion is if you can at least go a couple weeks without the meds and are still having too much pain that isn't being helped by non-narcotic meds. Then get pain management. From a specialist. Not your local Dr. Pain management specialists know addiction and treating pain. Your local doc only knows how to pump you up with meds and get you an appt. with a specialist. In other words, if you still needs meds after you are off of them. Walk into it with honesty with your doc and yourself. Let them in on your addiction, and that you honestly need help.

Personally, I would recommend wellbutrin. I will post again on this.
Chezz

[dreamin]

Not struggling so much physically.  Mostly Lorcet.. I still struggle with the depression, and I am not sure how that ties in with the after effects of the narcotic.  I used to do a lot of meth, but haven't touched that in almost 2 years.  I get bored really easily and I think that's when I need to be careful.  So I try to fill my time with other stuff..for me the hardest part is having real pain and not being able to do anything about for fear of addiction/dependance.  a fine mess I have gotten myself into

sheila

[Chezz]

Day 10, congrats. I know I will be there soon enough. I am confident in myself to go through with this again. I have detoxed many times. Usually to see where I am at with the pain in my back and down my leg. I am doing pretty good pain wise so that is nice.
Dealing with the wd is one thing. But when you throw the pain on top of it, it makes it alot harder.
So far so good today.

So you are still struggling at day 10? What were you taking b4. And did you get your meds from a doc or on the street. If it was from the street, I couldn't imagine the temptation. It would be 10x harder for me if I knew I could buy them. I am so lucky I have never had that.
Chezz

[GOD]

I haven't osted in a while, but I read this board DAILY to remind me of where I could be at any time if I took "Just one pill" --

I've been pill-free for about 3 months, and Alcohol free for almost 1 year now! I can hardly believe it myself.... 1 year ago today, I would have drank a 1.75 liter of Vodka from the time I got off work until I went to sleep (See "Passed out").. Four months ago I was eating any prescription drug I could get my hands on, but for me, I was primarily Ultram - 30-50 pills per day, because I could obtain it so easily on the internet.

I'm clean today, and it's a great feeling of accomplishment, however, I must NEVER forget how out of control I was a short time ago. Like I said, that's why I read this board daily!

Good luck to all who are still struggling out there!
Jess

[dreamin]

oops..I am on day 10..and the struggle is getting easier, as long as I don't give in to momentary cravings..so far so good..

[dreamin]

hey you, I was wondering how were doing.  day 3? well that's better than day 1.  and it does get better..I promise..lots of luck...and good thoughts

[Chezz]

Day 1 is hard, but it gets better. You have got to post though. That is how people can respond and help you. That is what this forum is for.

You have reached out, keep coming back
Chezz