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Day/Night ONE Please help me stay clean
Ok guys so I've been about 28 hours no stuff. I'm starting to get the "i cant stand its" I am not going looking no drs.. I want to do this. I need your help. I dont wanna sit here all night having to sit stand sit stand walk 5 steps sit stand.. You get the picture. I took 6 pms, (high tolerence) 2 immodiams ate a bannana thought about having a vodka, (not a big drinker) now I"m starting to bawl! Crying like a baby thank god my bf is watching football at a friends. I hate when he sees me like this. He went through methadone wds with me and it was UGLY! I have no friends here and there is no meeting till Tuesday. Can yall put up with me for the next few days of wining and feeling sorry for myself.
I know I brought this all on myself and I need to get over it but I think I'm gonna need some help.. I HATE THE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS!! They are the worse.
Should I start the clonodine now?? should I take one or two..
Thanks guys thanks for listening to my mess
I know I brought this all on myself and I need to get over it but I think I'm gonna need some help.. I HATE THE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS!! They are the worse.
Should I start the clonodine now?? should I take one or two..
Thanks guys thanks for listening to my mess
I wanna answer your post fully but I cant right now. I'm sure I'll be back to ok after the clonodine kicks in.. we will be selling pumpkins in oct and trees in dec. write more as soon as i can
I am okay, really strugling with fatigue. It is really impacting my abilty to run my business and that is really bad. I feel guilty. Man KFC really taste great when you have not had it for a while, does it not. I always get a large corn, love that stuff. Ya I thought cleaning was a bit ambitious. You know my addcition I've strugled with it for 17 years, I guess that what it is. And I had major pain problems that has been the biggest part of relapsing for me. In the begining I liked the pain relief as much as I did the High. At some point that changed for me, I do not like it. For example I adjusted my dose of Buprenex from 30CC to 50CC. I got high and hated it, I had to up my level to deal with withdrawls. Cravings I can sometimes get, think I want the high, but after I get one I do not like it. Thinking I will like it as I did once. Believe me on this?
I did like the Percocet high the best but rarely was that avaliable. Doctors here hate the Tri Script, but they write Vicodin, that they will do. I had a dream once I wrote a book, my dream looking at the cover of this book, a prision cell door made of Vicodins ES. The book Vicodin Prison. Cool huh! Ya good news does really boost your spirits. How the RV travel deal work for you guys, your gonna stay in casa grand for a while, what until your job is over. Where Casa Grand? You know that sounds neat. Clarity is what gets me high, and your cravings may change like mine. Hope for you, make it easier.
Bart
I did like the Percocet high the best but rarely was that avaliable. Doctors here hate the Tri Script, but they write Vicodin, that they will do. I had a dream once I wrote a book, my dream looking at the cover of this book, a prision cell door made of Vicodins ES. The book Vicodin Prison. Cool huh! Ya good news does really boost your spirits. How the RV travel deal work for you guys, your gonna stay in casa grand for a while, what until your job is over. Where Casa Grand? You know that sounds neat. Clarity is what gets me high, and your cravings may change like mine. Hope for you, make it easier.
Bart
I'm doing ok.. I'm still able to get online and function for short periods at a time. I didnt end up cleaning however I obsessed over it all day. I had KfC tonight..
I go through spells where I would pay a million bucks for a handful of percs but it passes. It's been over 48 hours now. I got an email that I landed the job I wanted. So we'll be headed to casa grand the first week of october. I'm looking forward to that everytime I start to jones (bad) I try and think about that plan you know stuff like that.
How are you doing tonight?
I go through spells where I would pay a million bucks for a handful of percs but it passes. It's been over 48 hours now. I got an email that I landed the job I wanted. So we'll be headed to casa grand the first week of october. I'm looking forward to that everytime I start to jones (bad) I try and think about that plan you know stuff like that.
How are you doing tonight?
I dont know how to explain this but I feel like cleaning my house. I know I'm not suppose to feel this way I should feel like s h i t right now. I'm glad i dont. The only real bad thing at this point is IM FREEZING..
Great, you sounded cynical about the Clonidine just after you took it. If you can sleep more which I hope you are, or have is just great news. Yes prepare for the worse hope for the best.
Hank in there you a long ways in!!!
Bart
Hank in there you a long ways in!!!
Bart
That post above explains it. I slept from 3am till about an hour ago never had that happen.
Not even when I am not in wd..
I'm having a hard time typing as my figures arent cordinated yet i dont feel to bad yet. I'm trying to keep my mind off it. as soon as I picked my head up i took a clonodine and I'm just hoping it knocks me right back out I have . No energy is all! I would like to think it will stay this way but I bet the best is yet to come.
grievingwidow: I wanted to try to tell you something please bare with the spelling and bad grammer now. I was married when I was young 20 we used to do this same thing for 4 years we would have the best time in a rented rv. (sold drugs had tons of cash) But that's not the point the point is he was killed when I was 25. I thought i should die too. i thought i would never be able to find someone to do this with me. Before I met current hubby I started to research life in an rv he came along and after only 2 years with him bam now its been over a year on the road.. right now I dont love it but 99% of the time I love it. Gosh I dont even know where I'm going with this. I'll try again later. sorry But really hang onto your prayers and wants and desires because your still here!!!
I wouldnt even think about going on anything to get off this. I did not once but twice (you think I woulda learned the first time) Methadone was my devil. Dont get me wrong it worked for the first month then it became annoying to go everyday go figure I still managed to go for 5 months after that. it's just a replacement. I dont wanna replace. I live a very FREE lifestyle I need to be nondependent on anything. HEll who am I kidding I made it through methadone w/ds the first time off of 110mgs ct the second time was not so easy.. I KNOW I can do this.
Ook i'm on a ramble again.. sorry
Not even when I am not in wd..
I'm having a hard time typing as my figures arent cordinated yet i dont feel to bad yet. I'm trying to keep my mind off it. as soon as I picked my head up i took a clonodine and I'm just hoping it knocks me right back out I have . No energy is all! I would like to think it will stay this way but I bet the best is yet to come.
grievingwidow: I wanted to try to tell you something please bare with the spelling and bad grammer now. I was married when I was young 20 we used to do this same thing for 4 years we would have the best time in a rented rv. (sold drugs had tons of cash) But that's not the point the point is he was killed when I was 25. I thought i should die too. i thought i would never be able to find someone to do this with me. Before I met current hubby I started to research life in an rv he came along and after only 2 years with him bam now its been over a year on the road.. right now I dont love it but 99% of the time I love it. Gosh I dont even know where I'm going with this. I'll try again later. sorry But really hang onto your prayers and wants and desires because your still here!!!
I wouldnt even think about going on anything to get off this. I did not once but twice (you think I woulda learned the first time) Methadone was my devil. Dont get me wrong it worked for the first month then it became annoying to go everyday go figure I still managed to go for 5 months after that. it's just a replacement. I dont wanna replace. I live a very FREE lifestyle I need to be nondependent on anything. HEll who am I kidding I made it through methadone w/ds the first time off of 110mgs ct the second time was not so easy.. I KNOW I can do this.
Ook i'm on a ramble again.. sorry
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This is my personal take on Clonidine (aka Catapres). I make no claims regarding my medical expertise.
Clonidine is an old fashioned blood pressure medication; one that works specifically well to diminish the side-effects of opioid withdrawal.
Many PCP's are not familiar with the helpful properties of Clonidine.
It is safe and non-addicting.
When using Clonidine in a non-supervised medical environment, a blood pressure cuff should be purchased to avoid the risks of hypotension.
Use of Clonidine has specific clinical signs attached to it; blood pressure and pulse readings.
The usual dose of Clonidine (p.o) is .1mg 3x per day. There are patches available as well, but I found that they are not as effective. They tend to get wet in a shower and lose their potency.
Clonidine can help minimize the following WD side-effects; panic/anxiety; hole in gut; heebie-jeeebies, kicking leg sensation, sleep issues. Some have reported that it also helps with associated sweats.
When taking Clonidine you may experience a dry mouth and sense of lethargy....feeling like you're walking through mud. Guard against any quick, sudden movements like picking up your head too quickly.
Do not take Clonidine before getting into a hot bath or shower.
Clonidine is not meant to cause you to zonk out. It is simply to lower the blood pressure, so do not look to mimic effects you would be seeking from a benzo or addicting sleep medication.
When stopping Clonidine, it's important to t*trate down the dose at the end....do not stop cold. It will cause a spike in blood pressure.
The medication can be taken both during a taper phase as well as during acute WD.
Clonidine requires an RX. It is also very cheap.
It is the only prescription medication that I personally recommend.
I couldn't have detoxed from Methadone without.
Don't hesitate to get it....you have nothing to lose except the sensation of jumping out of your skin.
G-d's speed on your journey.
Warmly,
Ar
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does clonodine have a little more punch for more severe withdrawals as opposed to mild ?
seemed that way for me.
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Clonidine is really well but a few PERSONAL tips:
(1) DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL
(2) This medication will make u feel, as stated above, like ur in mud....It slows the heart beat and makes u groggy. DO NOT DRIVE UNTIL U KNOW HOW CLONIDINE WILL WORK ON U. I HAVE SEEN A 6'5 260LB MAN TAKE A .1MG TABLET AND SLEEP FOR 10 HOURS WITHIN 45 MINUTES OF TAKING IT AND ALSO SEEN PEOPLE JUST FEEL GROGGY.
BOOYAMS
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should you always start with the 1mlg 3times a day or should you start with less to see how it effects you?
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.1 mg 3x/day is the normal dose. But it is a BP med. After taking it check your BP.
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Actually, Jay, I would recommend getting a BP reading before taking Clonidine.
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What if you have low blood pressure to begin with. Will your doctor tend NOT to give this to you? How do we low blood presssured people get a script?
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TMV,
My normal blood pressure is 100/60. When in detox; when they were giving me the clonidine, it dropped so low they stopped giving it to me. I couldn't even walk.
But, at home,months later, when I decided to jump off the sub, I had to beg and plead with my doctor to give me a script for clonidine. I even printed out the sticky from here; for him to read. Cuz he didn't know about using it for wd's. So, he wrote it for me. I had to have it during that first week. Yes, it knocked me out. So, I didn't drive, or do much of anything.
Now, I'm almost 1 month off sub. Feeling fine.
I don't know about your doctor.....just beg and plead????
good luck
new
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I ain't a doctor, but it seems to me that BEFORE one begs and pleads their doc for clonidine, they oughta beg and plead their doctor for info on what happens when a patient with low blood pressure takes clonidine?
IT TAKES WHAT IT TAKES
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im curious about people who have taken clonidine for this and gotten off of it and everything. from what i've heard it can be dangerous to take on its own, and even more dangerous to abruptly stop taking. what is the deal on clonidine? im just curious, i've only had it for in-patient
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Hi again,
well that RV deal does make it a hassle, and it was for me as well to get up, navigate the jail dorm, wait in line and things like that. In the end maybe some of the time I spent doing it helped some. That jail deal no medical help, your addcited help me ya right we will get right on that. We will fax the hospital, I really was traumatized by that. I could really whine about that. I really did take maybe 10 or more showers a day for I do not remeber how many days. Good thing I was in a dorm, the indvidual cell deals have, well you have seen them. So some of them may still pay off for you. The clonidine efffects the nervious system and quites it down some. I have already forgot but I just read a post on MED HELP titled clonidine. Go look it up as I remember it was good post. Google it what the hell. Their is a good chance you will end up being more calmed on the clonidine after a couple of doses. Hey be carefull, it could be dangerious. Get a check on your BP before you try going up some. If it is not effecting you maybe a tad more. But get another opinion I do not feel I should encourage that. If it where I could make that decision, my life. The walk idea sounds refreshing, I went outside a moment ago it was nice. So no insurance, does not work tell me, what do you think about Treatment. Suboxone, the others. Are you saying you can't do it or do not want too. I am thinking seriously about going to a Sub doctor on the program and tell him hey, you learned anything since my last visit. Your going to say I can just get off my small dose of Buprenex. I am going to say trust me, my systems is really not responding to even the slightest dose changes. I am at the point where being stable on this Buprenex **** has me feeling so bad I am unproductive ETC. Doctor going to say, I can see your seeking drugs or it is mental.
So I could understand not wanting to go for that kind of thing, Insurance, Expense ETC. But I have suprized myself I am thinking strongly at going again and I am thinking maybe they got more expirence and now. Will not say your Buprenex withdrawls are mild, you got no problem.
Sincerely Bart
Bart
well that RV deal does make it a hassle, and it was for me as well to get up, navigate the jail dorm, wait in line and things like that. In the end maybe some of the time I spent doing it helped some. That jail deal no medical help, your addcited help me ya right we will get right on that. We will fax the hospital, I really was traumatized by that. I could really whine about that. I really did take maybe 10 or more showers a day for I do not remeber how many days. Good thing I was in a dorm, the indvidual cell deals have, well you have seen them. So some of them may still pay off for you. The clonidine efffects the nervious system and quites it down some. I have already forgot but I just read a post on MED HELP titled clonidine. Go look it up as I remember it was good post. Google it what the hell. Their is a good chance you will end up being more calmed on the clonidine after a couple of doses. Hey be carefull, it could be dangerious. Get a check on your BP before you try going up some. If it is not effecting you maybe a tad more. But get another opinion I do not feel I should encourage that. If it where I could make that decision, my life. The walk idea sounds refreshing, I went outside a moment ago it was nice. So no insurance, does not work tell me, what do you think about Treatment. Suboxone, the others. Are you saying you can't do it or do not want too. I am thinking seriously about going to a Sub doctor on the program and tell him hey, you learned anything since my last visit. Your going to say I can just get off my small dose of Buprenex. I am going to say trust me, my systems is really not responding to even the slightest dose changes. I am at the point where being stable on this Buprenex **** has me feeling so bad I am unproductive ETC. Doctor going to say, I can see your seeking drugs or it is mental.
So I could understand not wanting to go for that kind of thing, Insurance, Expense ETC. But I have suprized myself I am thinking strongly at going again and I am thinking maybe they got more expirence and now. Will not say your Buprenex withdrawls are mild, you got no problem.
Sincerely Bart
Bart
Well, it sounds like you are doing we well as can be expected for the moment, at least you are able to post! I am afraid things will get worse before they will get better though. I really hope you are able to see this thing through, I will even pray for you even though sometimes that seems to go against me! It has been a while since I have had a prayer answered (that is, the way I want them answered!). I looked at your website, that is so cool what you and your husband are doing. As you can probably tell from my s/n, my husband is gone now - has been for four years, but if he were here that would be something we would love to do, I so envy couples like you. That is another reason why you have to get well, so you and your husband can have the best life possible! Talk to you later.
Love, Cindy
Love, Cindy
hi bart,
Yep still awake. I think I fell asleep for a little bit. I'm not sure what is the clonodine suppose to be helping? what part is it suppose to subside?
i have no clue why i lied to the doc i NEVER took 3 a day. But one time I told this one dr i was takin 9 a day and he wigged out. he still gave me a script in the end but said it would be a good idea if i got some help.
I live in an rv so takin a bath is like an hour process I have to let all the hot water go in the tub wait 20 minutes and repeat the first step 3 times to get it full enough. I guess I got nothing better to do. I worked on my blog for allot of today but dont have the concentration to do that anymore. I think I'm rambling now so I better go for a walk of course.
talk to anyone in a bit
Yep still awake. I think I fell asleep for a little bit. I'm not sure what is the clonodine suppose to be helping? what part is it suppose to subside?
i have no clue why i lied to the doc i NEVER took 3 a day. But one time I told this one dr i was takin 9 a day and he wigged out. he still gave me a script in the end but said it would be a good idea if i got some help.
I live in an rv so takin a bath is like an hour process I have to let all the hot water go in the tub wait 20 minutes and repeat the first step 3 times to get it full enough. I guess I got nothing better to do. I worked on my blog for allot of today but dont have the concentration to do that anymore. I think I'm rambling now so I better go for a walk of course.
talk to anyone in a bit
Hello desses;
likely your up, I ate my chicken and I am withdrawing as well. I am tapering so my sleep is not regular. I been up nights, so I am pretty sure your up. So I wanted to e-mail your.
Are you getting much relief with the clonidine. You told you doctor you where taking 3 most likley you where thinging you need more. I've done that. Well glad you saw the series and I not sure how long ago you did so maybe it would entertain you some and be more helpfull too watch it again than your thinking. So well I said this to myself many times, I thing my deal is much more phyiscal and connected with my pain problems. So I thought it would be easier if it was mental or if I thought it was I, could get off easier. Something like that. It might be a good idea to check you BP at Walgreens at some point.
Forgive yourself for getting back on and move foraward, that is really important, talking about I brought it on, it is not so simple. Forgive yourself, first step, go forward. The warm baths do work. I hate to admit this becases you may get the wrong idea, no I not a criminal ETC. However I did get stuck in jail withdrawing acutely from Buprenex. I took really say 10 hot showers in jail. Most comforting thing I could do there. It would have been even worse had I not had that option.You said you stand and you sit, I laid down got up went to the showers. That and the clondine will do a lot. I see you are saying no doctors, NONONO, and Faith. I should talk. I am thinking a Sub program with a private doctor set up on the program with the adivce FLaddict gives on making sure the dosing is minimal and short may really be best. Their are drugs that will help you from relapsing, Naltexone, Clonidne after wards ETC. Your gooing to be out of clondine right. You say you do not want that advice but forgive me. I tried once to run/jog withdrawls off I was so agitated, it did not work. I've been thinking that the mistake that gets made, and I here a lot on this sight is the 5 10 15 day and your done with withdrawls. I think that is where we go wrong a lot, no one really says very often how long upfront the withdrawals can really be, how much PAWS can make us relapse. We are not prepared for the end of the battle just the start. Worth thinking about.
I hope I kept you entertained making this somewhat easier for the moment, maybe that the strategy one minute at a time. Many say watch TV, go online, stuff like that.
Sincerely bart
likely your up, I ate my chicken and I am withdrawing as well. I am tapering so my sleep is not regular. I been up nights, so I am pretty sure your up. So I wanted to e-mail your.
Are you getting much relief with the clonidine. You told you doctor you where taking 3 most likley you where thinging you need more. I've done that. Well glad you saw the series and I not sure how long ago you did so maybe it would entertain you some and be more helpfull too watch it again than your thinking. So well I said this to myself many times, I thing my deal is much more phyiscal and connected with my pain problems. So I thought it would be easier if it was mental or if I thought it was I, could get off easier. Something like that. It might be a good idea to check you BP at Walgreens at some point.
Forgive yourself for getting back on and move foraward, that is really important, talking about I brought it on, it is not so simple. Forgive yourself, first step, go forward. The warm baths do work. I hate to admit this becases you may get the wrong idea, no I not a criminal ETC. However I did get stuck in jail withdrawing acutely from Buprenex. I took really say 10 hot showers in jail. Most comforting thing I could do there. It would have been even worse had I not had that option.You said you stand and you sit, I laid down got up went to the showers. That and the clondine will do a lot. I see you are saying no doctors, NONONO, and Faith. I should talk. I am thinking a Sub program with a private doctor set up on the program with the adivce FLaddict gives on making sure the dosing is minimal and short may really be best. Their are drugs that will help you from relapsing, Naltexone, Clonidne after wards ETC. Your gooing to be out of clondine right. You say you do not want that advice but forgive me. I tried once to run/jog withdrawls off I was so agitated, it did not work. I've been thinking that the mistake that gets made, and I here a lot on this sight is the 5 10 15 day and your done with withdrawls. I think that is where we go wrong a lot, no one really says very often how long upfront the withdrawals can really be, how much PAWS can make us relapse. We are not prepared for the end of the battle just the start. Worth thinking about.
I hope I kept you entertained making this somewhat easier for the moment, maybe that the strategy one minute at a time. Many say watch TV, go online, stuff like that.
Sincerely bart
you'll get thru this sweety. it's just a couple of days like this... you are at LEAST a 3rd of the way thru...
JUST HOLD ON.....
u can do it.
very warmly,
mj
JUST HOLD ON.....
u can do it.
very warmly,
mj
My clonodine is .1. The doc said one in morning one at night. I also told him I was only taking 3 a day. (no idea why) so I'm going to try the two a day but more than likely I will be a three a day person. I only have 20...
I saw addiction it was a great docum..It was great info. I think allot of this is Mental. A good part actually. The physical I know will pass it's the mental that really scares me. But again, I'm puting faith in myself to work it out. I mean geesh already I know I can beat a pill....Ihope.
I cant thank you all enough for being here for me. It means allot. I dont know if I would be able to sainly (is that a word) go threw this otherwise..
ok gotta go walk a round a bit..
I saw addiction it was a great docum..It was great info. I think allot of this is Mental. A good part actually. The physical I know will pass it's the mental that really scares me. But again, I'm puting faith in myself to work it out. I mean geesh already I know I can beat a pill....Ihope.
I cant thank you all enough for being here for me. It means allot. I dont know if I would be able to sainly (is that a word) go threw this otherwise..
ok gotta go walk a round a bit..
Hey, I just wanted to say that I work usually most of the night and will be checking back on and off, in case everyone else needs to get some sleep, I will be here with you. Stay strong - I am so proud of you, believe I know how hard it is and what you are going through. I will check in an hour or so on you.
Love, Cindy
Love, Cindy
Yes please be careful with the clonidine.. only take 1 pill 3x per day.. and if you are on the petite side like i am you may only be able to take less than that.. so be careful.. if you get dizzy or lethargic back off of it that means your BP is getting too low
Clonidne has been one of the only drugs I really believe helps, you know helps. And I did get the intake that your woried about the relathionship. I am real, it is not a good thing for you guys to have to deal with addiction. The money well the enough all by itself for many. In addcition relapsing is really part of it. I suggest you search online for the HBO series on addiction. I watched this last night. They have several videos from the series you can watch, my point is the info ETC will make you feel better and understand. I been through so much, know so much already, but it was good, gave me better feelings understanding about the problem. They had some doctors I felt really understood and cared for us as people who are no different than any other illness. Again in this series you will see that their is more to this than NONONONONONO and I think you need to refresh yourself in this. Only way to beat this is too not underestimate it in any way.
I;m getting KFC tonight what would you like, I'll stop flirting, what I really am saying is I'll be back and will send a reply if you post.
Sincerely Bart
I;m getting KFC tonight what would you like, I'll stop flirting, what I really am saying is I'll be back and will send a reply if you post.
Sincerely Bart
Make sure you're taking .1mg clonidine and not the .2mg ones. Don't want your BP falling out :) Also, you can get a doc to prescribe Atarax (hydroxyzine HCL). It's an antihistamine that helps with anxiety without being addictive. Makes ya sleepy, too. There's also a ton of info on my profile page. Just click the blue GaGuy link to the left of this post.
yu can do this...i am here alot if u want to talk...when u tried before--did u try with clonodine? it helped me the second time..i didnt have it the first and didnt make it
good luck
r2r
good luck
r2r
Ok took the clonodine. My bf stuck it out with me and married me in August. he's been through all of it but I kinda think he may no believe me when I told him I was done with the pills because I've said it before. I even tried it twice and couldnt do it. But I've got to do it. no choice I could seriously jepardize our life if I spend any more mula on this crazy addiction. It's been 13 years for me. I cannot even imagine the amount of
$$ I've spent. I dont want too. I just hate the mental beatdown I feel. Oh and the physical part sux absolutely sux. I've never made it through the physical part I always give in right about now in the wds.. I WONT this time.. NONONONON ok now I'm rambling.. sorry
$$ I've spent. I dont want too. I just hate the mental beatdown I feel. Oh and the physical part sux absolutely sux. I've never made it through the physical part I always give in right about now in the wds.. I WONT this time.. NONONONON ok now I'm rambling.. sorry
Yes take the clonidine, do you have a doctors order on doses. I only know .1 of clonidine three times a day is a normal dose for average guy. I am sure your boyfriend loves you and will love you when he comes home. I know you do not want him to see you this way, but his heart going to be with you. Get his support your lucky, I think, assuming he is like a lot of us guys, we are just great. Coming from a Guy it won't help, but I want It too.
Sincerely Bart
Sincerely Bart
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