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Differance bweteen Ultram & Tramadol

by razingkane, Jan 06, 2009 09:21AM
What's the difference between Ultram ER and Tramadol?  I've been taking/abusing Ultram ER 200mg.  To get off these things my Dr switched me to Tramadol 50mg.  1-2 4 times daily w/2 extra strength Tylenol. I'm feeling lethargic.  I slept fine but I'm just tired and I'm jumpy.

For those who have not read my journal this all started after being struck by lighting in June.  I'm assuming what I'm felling is a difference between Ultram and Tramadol.  I say this because being tired and jumpy are also just a few of the features of being hit by lighting.
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by needshope, Jan 06, 2009 09:37AM
To: razingkane
As far as I knew tramadol, was geneic for Ultram. I got some filled the other day and on the bottle it said tramadol, then underneath it said generic for Ultram 50mg, I may be wrong though. Look it up on webmd.com or pill identifier

by Mercedes175, Jan 06, 2009 09:50AM
Ultram is a combination of Tylenol (acetytho,....) - don't know the spelling but it is the ingredient in regular over counter tylenol times 3 plus Tramadol.  The main ingredient in Ultram is Tramadol but there is a difference.  When you are prescribed straight Tram it is w/out the tylenol.  Apparently when taken together (Ultram prescription) the tramadol works faster and longer.  It becomes more potent when you mix the two.  It speeds up the tramadol effect if you will.

So he is probably reducing you slowly on the effect but it is still the main drug of Ultram less the tylenol.

Just a word of advice, I am on Trams and they have the worse withdrawal I have ever experienced.  this drug is not understood by the medical world. They say it is non habit forming or at the very least "mild". It may be mild in terms of pain reliever but it has a nasty half life and plays havoc on your system when you go off it..not to mention your brain (it also acts like an anti-dep).  I wake up every morning with terrible sweats/cold, aches in every orfuses I know of (and didn't know I had).  I feel nauseous and just plain sick.  But worse than the flu.  I take a couple of the trams..and about 30min later I feel better. The problem is now I can't just stop...

The benefits are lighter mood, seemingly more energy but now I need more to keep that up...so I have cont'd to take it vs. the withdrawals.  But if I could do this over I would never take these and I am going to do everything I can to stop. I think it only gets worse the longer and more you take this. But with this drug, even a small doseage does damage.

by Ga Guy, Jan 06, 2009 09:56AM
The key when tapering drugs with longer half lives is to  make sure the plasma levels of the drug stay constant. That may mean taking your daily dose and dividing it into 6 doses. Then reduce a dose every week or so. The half life means that you should drop your doses every week or even two weeks. I'd treat a Tramadol Taper much like that of a benzo taper.

by razingkane, Jan 06, 2009 10:54AM
Thanks Mercedes175.....So I've been taking this wrong.  I took my Tramadol with 2 ibuprofen and not acetaminophen.  I figured what's the difference...apparently there is.  That's a lesson learned about following the Dr. directions exactly.  I guess they way I've been feeling is a certain amount of withdrawal and not my injury symptoms.  I'm off to the store to pickup some Tylenol.


by avisg, Jan 06, 2009 11:01AM
Ultram is NOT tramadol and acetaminophen. The is whats is in ultraest.Tramadol is the generic form of ultram .  Then there is the ER that is extended realse .Then there is 50 mg fast release

by Linduche, Jan 06, 2009 11:49AM
Yes, just writing that.  I am taking Tramacet which is Tramadol with asa.

by avisg, Jan 06, 2009 12:16PM
lind yupppers tramacet is the genric form of tramadol and asa

by Mercedes175, Jan 06, 2009 12:28PM
I believe Ultram and Ultracet are the same.  It is 37.5 tramadol and whatever of acetaminophen.  I had the generic of Ultracet (have the bottle right in front of me) it is broke down as aceetaminophen and 37.5 tramadol.  It is entitled tramadol (generic for Ultracet) but it has the acet/tramadol combination.

I was then prescribed straight tramadol which is 50mg tramadol with nothing else added.  period.

If ultram is different than that is news to me. When I googled it read that Ultram was another name for ultracet.

I think if you look on your bottle it will tell you.  Mine was labeled tramadol but in smalll righting it said generic for ultracet and the leaflet that came with it had the doseage of 3.75 tramadol the rest tylenol. So you are getting less tramadol.

by Mercedes175, Jan 06, 2009 12:29PM
If Ultram is different than ultracet I stand corrected.

by avisg, Jan 06, 2009 12:48PM
This will break it down for everyone

Ultram and ultracet are brand names   ultram contians the genric drug tramadol
                                                          
ultracet contians the generic drug tramadol and apap

Tramadol is the generic name, Then there is tramacet it is tramadol and apap

ultram is straight tramadol
ulracet has tram and apap

Then they have now come up with ultram ER its is slow release over a 24 hour period there is NO apap in it as of now they don't have an generic form (at least that I know of )
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