Difference btwn days 12 & 14?

Question

Anyone who's been through this before.....Should I be thinking if I'm not through this now, there's no hope?  OR   I will feel better in two days?

broknbck · Answer

I agree, your condition doesn't sound very good for being 12 days already.I experienced that pounding heart and restlessness and no sleep. also couldn't eat. that was while i was tappering. I also had just broke up with someone. I finally went to the doctor because i had lost 12 lbs in less than a week. He put me on Cymbalta which worked pretty good.

I'm sure that you and all of us just want you to quit using. Not kill yourself. I think you should really go see someone now.

6 months later I'm off the Cymbalta for 3 days now , and just battling irritablity

toxictome · Answer

i just read something about that yesterday...the bronchitis, or pneumonia , etc, that people get as a result of going thru wd's. My mind gets my facts messed up still...but someone just talked about that yesterday.... I learn something new every day...and i've learned ALOT on this site...everything I ever wanted to know about drugs and wd'ing from them..followed by how to do recovery the RIGHT way!!!   lol

Keep posting...TOGETHER we can do this!!!

enemy48 · Answer

Stick around.  We need nurses w/the knowledge you have.

And yeah, I've read that too about lung illness recovering from addiction.

Jacqui805 · Answer

All sorts of lung illnesses are listed in med texts as possible side effects of withdrawl, so I could very well have that.  I have a lot of med info., but it's another thing entirely to be going through something that's mainly subjective yourself.  Everyone's experience can be so different too, and I need that info/feedback to let me know what other's experienced to know what I may experience and to give me hope and strength to get through this.

enemy48 · Answer

Geeze..........well then I surely can't tell you anything you don't already know.

This is what happened to me.  Around the time that you're at, I got a cough.  The cough increased and turned into a wheeze.  By night time on day 19 I had full blown bronchitis.  It's been 5 days and I'm better.  But I know this happened b/c of all the trauma of no sleep and anxiety my body went through.

Jacqui805 · Answer

I can check my BP at home if I need to, I'm a nurse.  I don't have access to docs right now as I am in process of picking one since I just changed insurance.  I'm not on an antidepressant.  Most concerning to me is that I developed a cough with the chest pain a few days after going into w/d.  It's not a "cold" either.  I have a few ideas, none good, so I'm monitoring myself.  When you don't eat or drink, your blood essentially becomes "thicker" with a condition called polycythemia vera.  Basically you now have less fluid in your blood system and a larger portion of blood cells then to chuck it up.  Match this with immobility and you've got the ripe conditions for a bloot clot or thrombus.  This thrombus can then be "thrown" and is now called an embolism as it as moved to wherever, say lungs, in this case.  Coupled with the chest pain, I'm watching it.  I don't have difficulty breathing and don't feel out of breath, but anxiety is a symptom of a blood clot in the lungs.  I'm watching and won't let anything horrible happen.

enemy48 · Answer

Go to the ER.  You could have seriously high blood pressure.  

Are you on any anit-depress-----?

If you can't go to ER, can you go to walk in clinic?  There's tranquilizers for anxiety.

Jacqui805 · Answer

YES!!!!!!  Believe me, I'm not just complaining about minor sh**.  I'm a fairly tough cookie and I'm going through some serious **** here.  My heart pounds so hard that you can see it through my chest.  If my arm is against my chest, it pounds against it so that I literally feel it hitting my arm.

enemy48 · Answer

Your heartbeat is concerning.  Can you hear the beats in your ears?

Jacqui805 · Answer

Yeah!  My heart POUNDS like crazy with chest pain and a cough as well.  Now all day I have the anxiety, but since two days ago, it's gotten to a point that I can live with except for when I'm lucky enough to get that 15 to 30 min sleep I just started.  Ironically I want to sleep so badly, but now I'm scared to death to because then I have to deal with anxiety/restlessness/rls (didn't even know about that one til it hit me) as bad as the first days for at least 30 min.  I know it's not energy, I thought heavily about that, this wakes my *** up with objective signs as well as subjective symptoms.  And yeah, the boredom sucks.  It is so lonely too to be up at night while everyone else is sleeping and you are trying to find something interesting on tv at the same time as sit still.

enemy48 · Answer

I want to talk w/you a little more.  I just looked back in a personal journal I've kept.  I looked back to day 12.  (Like that was so long ago).  At that point I was suffering being worn down from no sleep, and at the same time anxiety.  I wrote that I may have been confusing anxiety w/energy that tried to start creeping up on me.  But I was so sleepy and tired & mentally stressed from no sleep that the hugh BOREDOM set in.  Those days were still very long for me.

Is your heart pounding out of your chest?

Jacqui805 · Answer

Yeah, the insomnia blows big time.  It's lonely being up when everyone's sleeping and just trying to figure out what the hell to do with yourself, especially being so freakin' tired.  Moreover, I'm concerned about what the lack of sleep is doing to me or will do to me.  I took sleep aids (Ambien CR) prior to my weaning off the med and it never worked for me then, so I don't think it'd help, let alone I don't have a doc now.
I also took Xanax.  I took it prior to the wean, and for the first week of w/d.  It did not help and I quadrupled the dose.
The anxiety has gotten significantly better from what it was- which gives me hope.  I can totally deal with the amount I have during the wakeful times (which is 23.5 hrs)  For the 30 min I fall asleep now, I wake up instantly with severe anxiety that hangs on for 30 min.
I can deal with the sneezing, which I'm amused to note only come in three's for me.  I typically have low BP, but during w/d it is normal for someone's BP and pulse to rise, so I'm sure mine has.  Thanks for your help.

enemy48 · Answer

I'm going to agree w/you on the no sleep part.  That was the worst for me b/c it just keeps hanging around.  I still, day 23 have not returned to normal w/sleep.  I had to get sleep aids or else I'm just a zombie for the day.

As for the severe anxiety, I had that too.  For a long time.  I had some xans to help.  I'd just take tiny bites throughout the day.

But if this is day 12 for you, anxiety should have faded somewhat?  If not, take a good look at your diet, other medications you might be taking & mixing w/chemical not meant to mix.  Do you have high blood pressure, and can you go get it checked @ walmart?

Jacqui805 · Answer

I so need to sleep, but cannot now for two weeks because of the anxiety.  As I mentioned in my "Scared To Death" post, or read my other posts from this week for background-I'm not an addict, I have dependency from long-term use and am stopping for a particular reason.  Anyway, just since yesterday I started being able to sleep for 15-30 once or twice a day, but I wake up abruptly with my heart pounding out of my chest, severe anxiety, and the inability to sit still.  I can deal with all of my other s/s, even the pain (don't know how), it's the damned sleeplessness and anxiety.  It's just not healthy to be up for two weeks!

kimmiek · Answer

Dont loose hope or give up.  This is hard to get over and it takes a while.  You will feel better soon.  Even if it takes a month.  What s a month in the big picture of your life.  Youare on the right path.  Please be proud of yourself you are doing a GREAT job!  Hang in there.  Some days are just harder than others.  Im on day 10 today not drinking and on day 5 taking my pain medicine for pain, not for a high.  I am craving a high so badly right now that I am sitting here in tears.  I just want to feel "better" I want to feel good.  But Im gonna give myself the grace to have an off day and you should give yourself that same grace.  God bless you!!  Keep up the good fight!!! :)

enemy48 · Answer

Hi.  So are you on day 12, wondering if there will be a drastic difference on day 14?

I don't know how you've treated your body through w/d's....like appetite or no appetite?  Vitamins?  Exercise?

What I can encourage you about is day 15.  That will be the day you are entering your 3rd week.  I think each week has a drastic difference.

You may have a bad case of the "don't want to's", and everyone goes through that because we don't remember how to live our life w/o our dope.

IT COMES BACK!  It does, so please don't give up.  One day you'll wake up real soon and realize that you don't mind grooming yourself, cleaning your house, doing your work, etc.  

Soon.  Think about how bad you felt in your 1st week in comparison to now.  Isn't that drastic?  Look forward to your week 3.  You've beaten the 1 minute at a time, to 1 hr at a time, to 1 day at a time.  It'll come.

Jacqui805 · Answer

Read what I wrote again under Dove's blog.  I wrote something for you too about your hubby and you.  Please do, I think it'll help, I can TOTALLY understand and you'll see why.  Thanks for the prayers, can't hurt right?

Jenn2day · Answer

Don't worry...I'll pray for ya! No big deal or nothin right? lol I am going to be praying all day anyway! LOL...I really need to be that strong...I can tell your strong....Maby thats what I need to pray for as well...

Jacqui805 · Answer

Thanks so much!  I'm tryin', I swear I really am.  Your encouragement really helps.  I am hangin' in.  Hopefully I'll have superb news in days to come, just improvement-that would be nice, that's all I ask.

Jenn2day · Answer

..umm Just knowing you have got this far is hope for me...I have been on here for about...1 1/2hrs...newbee.but  I have been reading everything you have posted...I don't think I am that strong...i posted a comment to DOVE about 8 or 9 post down....that pretty much summs up Y i am here...thanks and please keep it up

Jacqui805 · Answer

anyone?  or are y'all sick to death of me.  I'm sorry, I'm just needin' support right now.  I thank everyone who's answered anything of mine and hope my answers to others have been helpful.  I don't know how I'd have gotten through this week without all of you fine people.  It is such a difference going through anything with someone else.