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Fioricet addiction
How am I going to stop taking fioricet forever????
Hi, I'm new on here- wondering if you're still available to talk with regarding the fioricet addiction? Thanks!
how fast are you tapering?
yes, its hard and scary...that part will even get worse. once you get to a certain level, it seems to be pretty universal that anxiety becomes a major aspect of w/d. sleeplessness does too. if your expecting it and try to use some calming excercises, it might help.
yes, its hard and scary...that part will even get worse. once you get to a certain level, it seems to be pretty universal that anxiety becomes a major aspect of w/d. sleeplessness does too. if your expecting it and try to use some calming excercises, it might help.
That's no problem! Post when you can,especially when it's hard! As long as you're tapering...you're fine.
Look forward to hearing from you...
Look forward to hearing from you...
Want to thank everyone for your help and support. I apologize for not posting as often as I should. I have been going through quite a bit, physically and mentally, but i appreciate all the help I can get. Tapering is kinda scary. Sometimes I am not sure I can do it and that's when I need to get online. I can't afford to mess up this time. Thank you, thank you everyone. Yae
It is so encouraging for me to have this support. I have been going through so much lately. My emotions are all over the place. I seem to cry at the drop of a hat (not like me at all). am much more tense now, but can think a little clearer. I am so tired of being on this drug and having it control me. I am so glad to have someone else to go through it with.
I would love more than anything to give it up totally and never look back. We will help each other get through this. Thank you. Wish I could go back in time and erase the first day I took it... Sorry, it's been a little hard for me to concentrate... Can't look back, have to look forward. Yae
I would love more than anything to give it up totally and never look back. We will help each other get through this. Thank you. Wish I could go back in time and erase the first day I took it... Sorry, it's been a little hard for me to concentrate... Can't look back, have to look forward. Yae
Add me to the people who can totally relate. I am going through the same thing with fioricet. I posted up here about six weeks ago. I started a taper and was doing well, but two horrible migraines (the pain was so bad I was throwing up), foolishly had me giving in and taking more. I feel like I am back where I started, but I am trying my absolute best to taper again. The people on this board are wonderful, and know exactly what you are experiencing.
Don't give up - maybe we can both get through this and never look back!
Kate
Don't give up - maybe we can both get through this and never look back!
Kate
Yae-- No. There is not a short cut. You HAVE to taper. You can do it at home and that would actyally be better than an ICU! Think of it this way: You are sick now BUT once you begin to get off the Fioricet,you'll be on the road to being well;everyday!!
I admit,our tapers were long. There's a reason for that: our bodies needed to time to adjust to each decrease of med. If too fast,the anxiety will be great,not to mention the headaches!
Give it a try. You can figure out your own taper (although I recommend a doctor who KNOWS about barb withdrawal). Set some short goals. Just try to get that dose down!
When I tapered,I began it on my own. It didn't work at all. I then turned the pills over to someone else,set the taper plan,and had the appropriate amount handed out to me during set times throughout the day. It was strict and a pain for the other person but I desperately needed that help. The taper was also "blind". I never knew what day the decrease would be. I would take the same amount of pills,not look at them,and some would be an aspirin or Tylenol. It may sound stupid but I had to do it that way. I had to keep tricking my brain. I noticed it as I got down to the lower doses but by then I was well on the way and just anxious to stop!
If you don't feel like you fit in at the NA group,try another or go to AA. I found AA far more accepting. One funny think,the first therapist I saw was very nice BUT she could NOT get her head around the fact that I was not an opiate addict! To her,it was the same. To me,it wasn't at all. I divorced her after I gave her an inservice on barbiturate addiction! I found someone finally who "got it"! In the interim,I met with my family doctor and SHE was an enormous help, we have become great friends!!
Maybe you can have one of your children assist you. Don't feel bad or ashamed about it!
Kids really do love to "help". Just be honest. My daughter (20) was very sweet to me and did her best to understand. She also learned a few things. Addicts are not just folks from the "wrong side of town". They're everywhere! And some of us just got caught in a "prescription medication situation"! It's more than possible to be released!!
As far as the psychological "stuff",that's easily addressed. Sometimes an AD is necessary short term. Mostly,it's support and people to talk to. Also,look into "Smart Recovery". They have an approach that's been helpful to me. In the meantime,I'm thinking about writing a book about this particular addiction...there are many,many people who feel so alone and I think that, in and of itself, perpetuates the addiction!
Stay in touch with us (Brian is great to talk to and for support,as well) I'll be around today as I'm having some work to catch up on!
I admit,our tapers were long. There's a reason for that: our bodies needed to time to adjust to each decrease of med. If too fast,the anxiety will be great,not to mention the headaches!
Give it a try. You can figure out your own taper (although I recommend a doctor who KNOWS about barb withdrawal). Set some short goals. Just try to get that dose down!
When I tapered,I began it on my own. It didn't work at all. I then turned the pills over to someone else,set the taper plan,and had the appropriate amount handed out to me during set times throughout the day. It was strict and a pain for the other person but I desperately needed that help. The taper was also "blind". I never knew what day the decrease would be. I would take the same amount of pills,not look at them,and some would be an aspirin or Tylenol. It may sound stupid but I had to do it that way. I had to keep tricking my brain. I noticed it as I got down to the lower doses but by then I was well on the way and just anxious to stop!
If you don't feel like you fit in at the NA group,try another or go to AA. I found AA far more accepting. One funny think,the first therapist I saw was very nice BUT she could NOT get her head around the fact that I was not an opiate addict! To her,it was the same. To me,it wasn't at all. I divorced her after I gave her an inservice on barbiturate addiction! I found someone finally who "got it"! In the interim,I met with my family doctor and SHE was an enormous help, we have become great friends!!
Maybe you can have one of your children assist you. Don't feel bad or ashamed about it!
Kids really do love to "help". Just be honest. My daughter (20) was very sweet to me and did her best to understand. She also learned a few things. Addicts are not just folks from the "wrong side of town". They're everywhere! And some of us just got caught in a "prescription medication situation"! It's more than possible to be released!!
As far as the psychological "stuff",that's easily addressed. Sometimes an AD is necessary short term. Mostly,it's support and people to talk to. Also,look into "Smart Recovery". They have an approach that's been helpful to me. In the meantime,I'm thinking about writing a book about this particular addiction...there are many,many people who feel so alone and I think that, in and of itself, perpetuates the addiction!
Stay in touch with us (Brian is great to talk to and for support,as well) I'll be around today as I'm having some work to catch up on!
this drug needs to be withdrawn slowly. please put the idea of a 'shortcut' from your mind. there are no shortcuts with barbiturates. the good news is that if you accept this, then it makes moving forward easier. if you understand and accept the road before you and know it will be very difficult, it does make it easier to move forward.
you need a slow taper. vicki already told you how she did hers. mine was over a year. these seem extremely long, and i agree that they are...but thats because they were taylored to our response by a doctor who oversaw the process very carefully. there are doctors who understand this drug quite well. as i have mentioned before, this drug is very similar in its effect to Amytal (amobarbital) which is a C-II. Seconal and Nembutal pack a bit more punch all it a once, but even still they are rather similar to butalbital. They are all C-II's, which means they are kept under lock and key in the pharmacy. butalbital itself IS a C-III (this i just found out)....however drugs like fioricet aren't. why? its a total mystery to me... butisol is almost identical to butalbital in its nature and half-life, and yet even it is a C-III. Some have compared this to phenobarbital, but thats usually because they've never taken the two. Phenobarbital has a very very long half-life. it does not give you the immediate punch that this drug does. with butalbital, i feel it enter my blood within 15 minutes on an empty stomach. phenobarbital can take 12 hours to reach its full effect, and even then its nowhere near what butalbital hits.
in any event, it goes to show that this drug need to be taken seriously. people are ignorant of it because its the very LAST remaining barbiturate of abuse. seconal, nembutal, and amytal were all phased out decades ago with the advent of benzo's. those who never made the switch from barbs to benzo's usually ended up dead (judy garland)....so people do not understand its addiction out of sheer ignorance....exactly what you would expect with a class of drugs that has been long dead.
if you have no one to help with a taper, then setting your daily dose out in an envelope every day can help. do NOT under any circumstances let yourself take more. i believe it was vicki who used this method.....right vicki?
find activities to help clear your mind and make you feel better. excercise...NA....hobbies....reading.....just do things that you like. excercise is a WONDERFUL way to help improve your mood during this process. i used to underestimate the value of a 30 minute walk.....no more! it clears my mind and helps me focus like nothing else.
just remember....NO EASY WAY! keep that in mind. it can be done on your own. vicki and i are proof (although occasionally i still do slip).....and there have been many others who have come and gone from this forum that have succeeded in a taper.
you need a slow taper. vicki already told you how she did hers. mine was over a year. these seem extremely long, and i agree that they are...but thats because they were taylored to our response by a doctor who oversaw the process very carefully. there are doctors who understand this drug quite well. as i have mentioned before, this drug is very similar in its effect to Amytal (amobarbital) which is a C-II. Seconal and Nembutal pack a bit more punch all it a once, but even still they are rather similar to butalbital. They are all C-II's, which means they are kept under lock and key in the pharmacy. butalbital itself IS a C-III (this i just found out)....however drugs like fioricet aren't. why? its a total mystery to me... butisol is almost identical to butalbital in its nature and half-life, and yet even it is a C-III. Some have compared this to phenobarbital, but thats usually because they've never taken the two. Phenobarbital has a very very long half-life. it does not give you the immediate punch that this drug does. with butalbital, i feel it enter my blood within 15 minutes on an empty stomach. phenobarbital can take 12 hours to reach its full effect, and even then its nowhere near what butalbital hits.
in any event, it goes to show that this drug need to be taken seriously. people are ignorant of it because its the very LAST remaining barbiturate of abuse. seconal, nembutal, and amytal were all phased out decades ago with the advent of benzo's. those who never made the switch from barbs to benzo's usually ended up dead (judy garland)....so people do not understand its addiction out of sheer ignorance....exactly what you would expect with a class of drugs that has been long dead.
if you have no one to help with a taper, then setting your daily dose out in an envelope every day can help. do NOT under any circumstances let yourself take more. i believe it was vicki who used this method.....right vicki?
find activities to help clear your mind and make you feel better. excercise...NA....hobbies....reading.....just do things that you like. excercise is a WONDERFUL way to help improve your mood during this process. i used to underestimate the value of a 30 minute walk.....no more! it clears my mind and helps me focus like nothing else.
just remember....NO EASY WAY! keep that in mind. it can be done on your own. vicki and i are proof (although occasionally i still do slip).....and there have been many others who have come and gone from this forum that have succeeded in a taper.
Although I don't know your drug of choice I do know addiction. I can't relate with your drug of choice but I can relate to the madness that goes on in our life while using. As long as you are getting support at NA I personally think it would still be a good idea to go. Just because they don't know your doc doesn't mean they don't know some of what you are going through. If the NA group you are going to doesn't seem like a good fit, find a different meeting. You will know when you find your home group.
As an addict I know all too well about tapering and how difficult it can be. I tried tapering many times only to justify taking "one extra" today. The "one extra" ended up happening every day. Does anyone in your life whom is close to you know about your problem? Do you have anyone that can hold on to your pills and dole them out to you? For most addicts to be successful this is what has to be done. We can't do it on our own. We need all the help and support we can get.
Like I mentioned before I don't understand your med but I will lend all the moral support I can to help you in any possible way. I know you feel lonely because so many don't understand your doc but we have so much more in common. If I can help in any other way please let me know. I can feel the frustration in your posts. We are all here to help if you let us.
Best of luck to you Yae. Although it won't be easy you will get through this.
Brian
As an addict I know all too well about tapering and how difficult it can be. I tried tapering many times only to justify taking "one extra" today. The "one extra" ended up happening every day. Does anyone in your life whom is close to you know about your problem? Do you have anyone that can hold on to your pills and dole them out to you? For most addicts to be successful this is what has to be done. We can't do it on our own. We need all the help and support we can get.
Like I mentioned before I don't understand your med but I will lend all the moral support I can to help you in any possible way. I know you feel lonely because so many don't understand your doc but we have so much more in common. If I can help in any other way please let me know. I can feel the frustration in your posts. We are all here to help if you let us.
Best of luck to you Yae. Although it won't be easy you will get through this.
Brian
It is so comforting to know I have people I can talk to that understand. I don't have heart probs or high blood pressure, I am addicted to fioricet which is ruining my health and eating away at me. I have always been able to stay away from drugs and alcohol, but somehow firoicet got hold of me. it got to be my best friend for awhile, not to mention my banker because i started buying them online. Is there any way i can do this on my own now? other than detoxing in intensive care, which would get rid of the drug, it wont get rid of the psychological stuff. People here in my town or NA dont know what the hell i am talking about. 12-15 pills + a day is a little high for my 5'6 107lbs frame. it really is amazing i have not gotten seizures or od'd yet. I crave for it all the time. It gives me a boost in the am and psychosis throughout the day. it makes me more aggtressive and incaring, so please, please, please is there a short cut suggestion any one of you 2 can make. the good part of my addiction is to weed out weak people. my partner who tried to help, bailed. we were supposed to live happily ever after. my mistake was telling him in the first place. Now i see what he really is made of. NOT for better or, especially worse. for me and my 3 children who will stand by me no matter what, i need to heal, before i miss their years. 19, 15 and 12. HELP! HELP! tapering will only make me cheat, dr's are not reliable. they think you can just quit. doesn't anyone know what it's like except you 2 and the people in the forum who have gone through it? I dont want to go to NA again.
me beats per minute ran 100+ every day. now they are in the low 70s, and thats at work and active! big difference.
No,not one problem since "the affair" ended. Both of those incidents were years apart BUT I had frequent arrythmias and I could just stop them myself by coughing very hard several times. Imagine...I was okay with that!! Just shaking my head...
I've recently had a full work up with dopplar studies,echocardiogram,ekg,eeg, MRI of (what's left) of my brain, and all is within normal limits. Maybe there are no real studies of the relationship between barbs and exogenous arrythmias because it's not like we go to the ER and say " Oh...and I take a bucket load of barbs everyday"! Of course,I KNOW there's a relationship but I'm not telling. I like having medical insurance and surely I'd be canceled if this came out!! Of course,I no longer worry about this. My BP was always low (I weighed 100 pounds on a good day) and my HR now is around 70. It used to be around 100 daily. Just horrible...I can't believe I let that "be". Pure insanity!
I've recently had a full work up with dopplar studies,echocardiogram,ekg,eeg, MRI of (what's left) of my brain, and all is within normal limits. Maybe there are no real studies of the relationship between barbs and exogenous arrythmias because it's not like we go to the ER and say " Oh...and I take a bucket load of barbs everyday"! Of course,I KNOW there's a relationship but I'm not telling. I like having medical insurance and surely I'd be canceled if this came out!! Of course,I no longer worry about this. My BP was always low (I weighed 100 pounds on a good day) and my HR now is around 70. It used to be around 100 daily. Just horrible...I can't believe I let that "be". Pure insanity!
vicki, i wish i'd spoken about my heart problems sooner. it's very interesting to know you had smiliar problems. my heart rate never got close to 200...but while i'm taking fioricet, it runs around 30bpm higher and my blood pressure usually is elevated. this isn't due to the caffeine, either...excedrin doesn't cause this problem. barbiturates do speed up the metabolism of beta blockers. i had thought this could have been the possible cause, but it didn't explain why i react that way so soon after one single dose of butalbital. i've wondered if butalbital itself was actually causing these problems. have you had any more problems since you quit?
this is interesting, because as far as side effects go i've never found any related to the heart. then again, maybe i just wasn't looking.
this is interesting, because as far as side effects go i've never found any related to the heart. then again, maybe i just wasn't looking.
Matt...Boy...we're like twins!! I didn't mention my heart problems with Fioricet. I was mostly at a pretty rapid heart rate while using. Twice I threw an arrythmia causing HR over 250. I had to be cardioverted...UGH!! I had forgotten about that...a bad memory.
And...I only put you in the low dose category NOW. I know you were a pro,just as I was.
It's a wonder we're still here,huh?
Yae...How are you today? Work on getting hooked up with a doctor and I promise you,we'll support you all the way. It's now one of my missions in life...
All the best--Vicki
And...I only put you in the low dose category NOW. I know you were a pro,just as I was.
It's a wonder we're still here,huh?
Yae...How are you today? Work on getting hooked up with a doctor and I promise you,we'll support you all the way. It's now one of my missions in life...
All the best--Vicki
vicki, i was really struck by your last response. it hit home for me. i know you put me in the 'low dose' category of taking this drug, but there was a time once when i took doses that SHOULD have killed me. even at low doses after extended periods of taking this drug, my memory started to go funny. there were times i would wake up in the middle of the night thinking it was 10 years earlier. there were times i'd wake up and at first not understand where i was. its so weird you mentioned that. i narrowed it down to the fioricet, though. when i'm off it for a while, the problems vanish. there were times when i'd take it and walk from one room to another and totally not understand why i did it. what you're talking about isn't unique to just the high doses...it also happens at lower doses when it accumulates in your system. all the benzo's and z-drugs are known to cause similar issues, but this drug having the long half-life that it has and being much more powerful than the former will cause much more pronounced problems, yet most people have no clue about that.
one other problem it causes me that has been traced back directly to the fioricet is heart palps. i take a drug called propranolol LA to help prevent migraines. it's the theory of my pharmacist that the drug speeds up the metabolism of the propranolol which then produces the withdrawal feelings from propranolol. if you do not keep a steady blood level, your heart starts racing and you get spikes in blood pressure, heart palps, etc. in any event, i have noticed that even if i have been clean for weeks and then take a dose or two, this effect happens within a few hours. no one is sure whether its a reaction to the drug itself, or the effect it has on the metabolism of beta-bockers. in any event, i while we were talking about funky reactions, i thought i'd mention that....and to anyone interested, YES i've had my doc check out my heart.
YAE:
i have loads of experience with this drug...most unfortunately. my doc put me on fiorinal when i wasaround 8 or 9. shortly after, i was taking 10 to 15 a day. you have to understand my body size at the time was probably half of what it is today, so you could imagine those doses would be similar to an adult talking double. on some of my binges, i would take upwards of 20 or more per day....i called it 'treating myself'...
well i was young and thought of them as candy. the problem was that if i burned through them and ran out on a saturday, the withdrawal started almost immediately and was HORRIFIC. i can't begin to describe the agony. worst was the incredible pain. i've NEVER had a migraine reach that level of pain....and i've had some horrific migraines too. its a wonder i never had seizures. i think this could only be luck, as at the time i was also taking anti-seizure medications in high doses as an attempt to control the migraines.
in any event, at some point around 15 years old, i became fully clean by force. my taper took well over a year...and was worth it. at 18 i moved out on my own. by 20 i thought i could take this med again without problems. STUPID. i knew better deep down. in any event, a couple months of taking this med 'correctly' and then i was back to taking it every day again. now here i am, many years later trying to kick the same habbit. as of this year, i've done very well...but i would have been sooooooooo much better off to have never started again.
don't fear the taper. accept it. accept what you'll have to go through. the anxiety will be overwhelming as it is...accept it as a withdrawal effect. it makes it easier to deal with. you'll have a terrible time sleeping. you'll have spells of anxiety. every time you're used to taking this med, you'll have an urge to take it. go slow and steady with the taper or you'll likely fail. do it with your doctor.
many people who abuse this med also tend to have anxiety problems. I have OCD with, at times, major anxiety. for me, it's not just about the beautiful heavenly high that this drug provides me.....its also about an escape from every fear i've ever had. it all just drifts away. i feel wonderful. problem is, 2 hours later it all comes crashing down and i gotta take more. what i'm getting at, though, is abuse of this drug usually goes hand in hand with anxiety disorders to some degree and getting help for that (if you have one) may help you get off this drug. after all, people forget that this IS a barbiturate. no other class of drugs work more powerfully for relieving anxiety and inhibition that the barbiturates...NONE.
anyway, keep posting. it will help you succeed!
one other problem it causes me that has been traced back directly to the fioricet is heart palps. i take a drug called propranolol LA to help prevent migraines. it's the theory of my pharmacist that the drug speeds up the metabolism of the propranolol which then produces the withdrawal feelings from propranolol. if you do not keep a steady blood level, your heart starts racing and you get spikes in blood pressure, heart palps, etc. in any event, i have noticed that even if i have been clean for weeks and then take a dose or two, this effect happens within a few hours. no one is sure whether its a reaction to the drug itself, or the effect it has on the metabolism of beta-bockers. in any event, i while we were talking about funky reactions, i thought i'd mention that....and to anyone interested, YES i've had my doc check out my heart.
YAE:
i have loads of experience with this drug...most unfortunately. my doc put me on fiorinal when i wasaround 8 or 9. shortly after, i was taking 10 to 15 a day. you have to understand my body size at the time was probably half of what it is today, so you could imagine those doses would be similar to an adult talking double. on some of my binges, i would take upwards of 20 or more per day....i called it 'treating myself'...
well i was young and thought of them as candy. the problem was that if i burned through them and ran out on a saturday, the withdrawal started almost immediately and was HORRIFIC. i can't begin to describe the agony. worst was the incredible pain. i've NEVER had a migraine reach that level of pain....and i've had some horrific migraines too. its a wonder i never had seizures. i think this could only be luck, as at the time i was also taking anti-seizure medications in high doses as an attempt to control the migraines.
in any event, at some point around 15 years old, i became fully clean by force. my taper took well over a year...and was worth it. at 18 i moved out on my own. by 20 i thought i could take this med again without problems. STUPID. i knew better deep down. in any event, a couple months of taking this med 'correctly' and then i was back to taking it every day again. now here i am, many years later trying to kick the same habbit. as of this year, i've done very well...but i would have been sooooooooo much better off to have never started again.
don't fear the taper. accept it. accept what you'll have to go through. the anxiety will be overwhelming as it is...accept it as a withdrawal effect. it makes it easier to deal with. you'll have a terrible time sleeping. you'll have spells of anxiety. every time you're used to taking this med, you'll have an urge to take it. go slow and steady with the taper or you'll likely fail. do it with your doctor.
many people who abuse this med also tend to have anxiety problems. I have OCD with, at times, major anxiety. for me, it's not just about the beautiful heavenly high that this drug provides me.....its also about an escape from every fear i've ever had. it all just drifts away. i feel wonderful. problem is, 2 hours later it all comes crashing down and i gotta take more. what i'm getting at, though, is abuse of this drug usually goes hand in hand with anxiety disorders to some degree and getting help for that (if you have one) may help you get off this drug. after all, people forget that this IS a barbiturate. no other class of drugs work more powerfully for relieving anxiety and inhibition that the barbiturates...NONE.
anyway, keep posting. it will help you succeed!
You're welcome! I know exactly how you feel. I used to say: "This damn drug gets no respect"!! Not a lot of folks are aware the hold it has and how difficult it is to detox from.
I've had my share of withdrawals between refills/shipments and it's pretty bad. What it can do to your brain is just awful. Can you imagine waking up and not knowing the month? Or
year? Or what you're supposed to be doing/who you are? That was me and it was then that I kind of thought maybe the love affair needed to end...I laugh now but it was truly the worst time of my life. Believe me,you'll be very happy when the burden of it all is gone!
I'll tell you why you won't meet a lot of people who are on this drug: They're keeping a secret for one thing,and they have no intention of ever quitting. It becomes lifelong because it's so easy to keep a lid on it and to acquire it! Sad...
I'm glad you're going to meetigs. That's great!
I've had my share of withdrawals between refills/shipments and it's pretty bad. What it can do to your brain is just awful. Can you imagine waking up and not knowing the month? Or
year? Or what you're supposed to be doing/who you are? That was me and it was then that I kind of thought maybe the love affair needed to end...I laugh now but it was truly the worst time of my life. Believe me,you'll be very happy when the burden of it all is gone!
I'll tell you why you won't meet a lot of people who are on this drug: They're keeping a secret for one thing,and they have no intention of ever quitting. It becomes lifelong because it's so easy to keep a lid on it and to acquire it! Sad...
I'm glad you're going to meetigs. That's great!
Thank you so much. You don't know what a relief it is to know there is someone who understands what I am dealing with. The people I have talked to in the hospital or NA didn't know what I was talking about. The support is there, because of the focus on the addiction. Would just like to meet even one person who is going or has gone through this at the mtg. Thank you again.
Yes,I have a lot of experience with Fioricet. I took it for many years. Toward the end, I was taking upward of 20 tabs a day.
I have been off this "drug of no return" for 302 days!! You can and will get past this!
As you know,it MUST be tapered. I tapered two pills a month for 9 months. It worked for me. Hard,yes! But,totally doable. It gave me a chance to adjust and I was never sick. I jumped off at 2 pills per day. There was anxiety,depression and the rest but I got help with that. I wish now that I had started AA or some kind of support while I was tapering. I didn't do that until I relapsed 5 and 1/2 months after getting clean. I learned the hard way.
Now,I'm doing fine and continue to pursue aftercare. I exercise which I,also,should have done right from the start. The most important thing for my recovery was letting go of my secret...it made all the difference!!
Let me know if there's anything else I can tell you or help with. There's another member here: "My_Mayberry". He's a great guy and knows everything about Fioricet and has also been a victim of this badass drug!! He'll see this and post to you,I'm sure.
It will be okay...the best thing for you to do now is get with a caring doctor and get on a nice,slow taper.
Keep in touch!
I have been off this "drug of no return" for 302 days!! You can and will get past this!
As you know,it MUST be tapered. I tapered two pills a month for 9 months. It worked for me. Hard,yes! But,totally doable. It gave me a chance to adjust and I was never sick. I jumped off at 2 pills per day. There was anxiety,depression and the rest but I got help with that. I wish now that I had started AA or some kind of support while I was tapering. I didn't do that until I relapsed 5 and 1/2 months after getting clean. I learned the hard way.
Now,I'm doing fine and continue to pursue aftercare. I exercise which I,also,should have done right from the start. The most important thing for my recovery was letting go of my secret...it made all the difference!!
Let me know if there's anything else I can tell you or help with. There's another member here: "My_Mayberry". He's a great guy and knows everything about Fioricet and has also been a victim of this badass drug!! He'll see this and post to you,I'm sure.
It will be okay...the best thing for you to do now is get with a caring doctor and get on a nice,slow taper.
Keep in touch!
I have been taking between 12 to 15 pills a day. I have tried to taper in a span of a month plus. I have voluntarily put myself in a hospital to help me taper, that was a week. Apparently at the dosage I am taking from what I have read in the 2003 chats takes longer than a week or a month. I am trying to get support. People who don't know what they are talking about tell me to just quit. IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE!!! NOT WITH THIS DRUG... So I would appreciate the people who have NO experience with it, please DO NOT GIVE ME ADVISE... What you are telling me, Vicki, is true. Do you have experience with it?
weezer- Do you know what you're talking about? She obviously wants to stop and it's a drug that cannot be just stopped without risk of seizure. So, don't be telling her to just
QUIT. Thanks!
QUIT. Thanks!
Youre not providing much information. If you are prescribed Fioricet by Doctor for a legitimate reason there is no need to stop taking it no matter how long you have been taking it.
Taking it as directed in this case.
If you abuse fioricet and cant get anymore from your doctor, you will either just quit or find another MD to prescribe it to you or switch to another drug .
If yopu want to quit Fioricet and any other drug, do it one day at a time, forever is overwhelming.
Taking it as directed in this case.
If you abuse fioricet and cant get anymore from your doctor, you will either just quit or find another MD to prescribe it to you or switch to another drug .
If yopu want to quit Fioricet and any other drug, do it one day at a time, forever is overwhelming.
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