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Going from Percs to Norco
I am in the midst of a super bad addiction to anything Opiate. I can pretty much tolerate 30 or more vicodin 5/500 a day, 20+ 10/325 Norco or 20+ 10/325 generic percs (endocet). I am not nearly as worried about the opiates as I am about the acetaminophen. I know I am poisoning my liver and kidneys and body in general. I am a person diagnosed with clinical depression, so I take cymbalta as well - I believe the opiates are escalating my depression as the Cymbalta provides no relief for the depression any more. I have been doing opiates for almost 5 years, and became hooked throughout the course of that time, never having really had a chance to get off of them as I have had 6 abdominal surgeries and 3 long term (3 or months healing time) open surgical wounds that required home care nursing - so yes, there are very legitimate pain issues here too. I am just turning 40 and should be enjoying the time of my adult life - but I am too busy obcessing about getting my pills and staying loaded. I like - love - the "mind - escape" and live in fear of the pain that surfaces when I come down! But I also live in fear of going to bed and not waking up, of my liver and organs failing slowly, of going more overboard than usual and dying of overdose. The pills and pains have turned me into a mindless zombie that hates herself. I have no health insurance now (divorced) which makes it very expensive, however the strangest thing is that I still tend to function pretty highly - and most don't even know I take anything. I know I am slowly killing myself and I am confused and terrified, and yet I know the first thing I will do when I am done writing this is pop a couple Norcos. Can anyone identify? If so, what did you do? How did you cope? Thanks so much up front for any ideas or advice given!
Good job! Keep up the great attitude and when you get antsy get up and move around. You have our full support if you need to talk!!!!
Pretty good day for me today :) Thank you so much, you are both angels!! I only took 12 Norco today. Now, to those that don't know where I was just yesterday that probably sounds horrible (and it is :( I have miles upon miles to go) But I have tapered down around 50% today!
I hope and pray to do as well and better tomorrow, and the next day, and the next ..... and also to find the strength to call the doctors and tell them not to refill me. That's going to be the tough one for me! Wish me luck ;)
I hope and pray to do as well and better tomorrow, and the next day, and the next ..... and also to find the strength to call the doctors and tell them not to refill me. That's going to be the tough one for me! Wish me luck ;)
i totally agree with dovecottage, ask your doc. i finally got the courage today to call him and tell him i quit ct and that i couldn't sleep and asked for help and he was AWSOME they are supposed to be professionals and they are the ones giving you the meds, they KNOW your are addicted. Tell your doctor that you think it is time for you to re-assess your pain without the pills and ask him how do you do it. HE WILL UNDERSTAND.
On this site, we're all addicts and we've all been in the same spot. Taking the first step of trying to quit is the scariest i think, i was FREAKY afraid of trying to quit but now i'm at hour 60 and i'm still alive and i think healthier for it. YOU CAN DO IT. stop being afraid and step up and start talking.
This site is why i've done good the only reason i've done good because i cant tell any one, not even my husband knows i'm an addict. but this site is going to save my life because all of us have been there. so just know we are here for each other!!! Best wishes.
On this site, we're all addicts and we've all been in the same spot. Taking the first step of trying to quit is the scariest i think, i was FREAKY afraid of trying to quit but now i'm at hour 60 and i'm still alive and i think healthier for it. YOU CAN DO IT. stop being afraid and step up and start talking.
This site is why i've done good the only reason i've done good because i cant tell any one, not even my husband knows i'm an addict. but this site is going to save my life because all of us have been there. so just know we are here for each other!!! Best wishes.
Thank you so very much for your replies. I really appreciate your time! Thanks so, so much! That is really great news from both of you! I can not see me three days without the pills already typing in a forum to encourage someone else :) That is awesome. I picture that I would be hiding under my blankets and really feeling sick the third day after stopping!
Dove, what is a CWE?
Right now I have access to four different RX each month, the newest being the percs (2 for Norco and 1 for vicodin) My body is so resistant that the vicodins make me sick more than they make me feel good so it's truly ridiculous that I take them but I do when there is nothing else.
It is very strange but I could sware I have been having some type of withdrawals the last two days - or maybe sick for the tylenol in my system? it's very scary but I have had a headache, nausea, fatigue,strange temperature shifts, sometimes sweating .... I took 100 percs, 20 each day - then took vicodin for 1 day and then onto Norco, but even though I had all that hydrocodone to replace the percs, it still feels like some sort of withdrawal, but I am not sure - I do know I need to quit- I have purchased the withdrawal ease herb supplements, and tried the Kra Tom tea and I think they do help. I had backed myself into a corner and had to taper for a while. I am disappointed I didn't stick to it, but my appointment day came and there I was refilling without a second thought for the time I had spent tapering - it wasn't much, but it could have been a first step :( I am getting ready for round 2, not sure if I should try the tapering, try CT, suboxone or what
Dove, what is a CWE?
Right now I have access to four different RX each month, the newest being the percs (2 for Norco and 1 for vicodin) My body is so resistant that the vicodins make me sick more than they make me feel good so it's truly ridiculous that I take them but I do when there is nothing else.
It is very strange but I could sware I have been having some type of withdrawals the last two days - or maybe sick for the tylenol in my system? it's very scary but I have had a headache, nausea, fatigue,strange temperature shifts, sometimes sweating .... I took 100 percs, 20 each day - then took vicodin for 1 day and then onto Norco, but even though I had all that hydrocodone to replace the percs, it still feels like some sort of withdrawal, but I am not sure - I do know I need to quit- I have purchased the withdrawal ease herb supplements, and tried the Kra Tom tea and I think they do help. I had backed myself into a corner and had to taper for a while. I am disappointed I didn't stick to it, but my appointment day came and there I was refilling without a second thought for the time I had spent tapering - it wasn't much, but it could have been a first step :( I am getting ready for round 2, not sure if I should try the tapering, try CT, suboxone or what
i can relate sure i can i had my back fused after a car accident and became hooked on percs. i was taking 10-15 a day to feel normal i would do a CWE on my pills so it would nt hurt my liver. i lived and woke for my pills i was consumed, i prayed for help and one day i flushed it all!! i wanted to kick myself but i found this site and went ct. i went to na meetings and got sober. not as easy as i make it sound w/d were awful but i didnt die. i wake up each morning feeling good without drug i couldnt imagine not having a pill first thing in the morning,but i am alive and escaped an awful addiction, it is possible...be well....Dove keep posting people here are great
Yes i can relate, i took 30 plus norco ten's a day for YEARS and i am on day three of nothing. You can quit and i have found that the pills actually escalted the pain!! I need back surgury and my back hurts but i really believe that the pills made it worse. I'm managing on advil now and no it is NOT fun but worth it. This site is a life saver for me and the herbal supplements REALLY help with the withdrawal symptoms. Tell us a little more, what is causing the pain now? There is definetly hope and this is the site that can help you cope, the people are amazing and the herbal supplements are fabulous check out thomas' recipe click on the upper right side of the screen health pages and you'll find it. the first step is admitting you have a problem now you need to REALLY want your life back and be determined to do it. It's your choice so as they say "Pony up". I am always on and here for you.
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