Has anyone attended Narcanon?

[Jane477]

Does it help?  Does intervention help?  

[LIZZIE LOU]

i am glad that you alerted the person doing the intervention about the attitude of the two women.  she will know what to do about that.  

once full blown addiction has taken hold...it no longer becomes a choice to "do" drugs.  her brain is screaming...feed me, feed me.  what you want to accomplish though is for her to make the choice to do something about it.  that is where the choice comes in.

i have answered your private message and will continue this conversation there, ok?  

[LIZZIE LOU]

you go mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like you have got the ball rolling :)

aawwhh jane...i know how your heart is hurting...how your mind is racing...lack of sleep...just trying to figure all of this out.  it is so hard watching our loved ones destroy their lives...right in front of our eyes.  i can tell that you love your daughter and i know that you will do this for her...since she is not in a place to do it for herself.

some ppl touched on the subject the other night about the fact that she has to want to do this for herself or it wont work.  amen to that statement.  i have seen many an addict drug into rehab...not wanting to get clean...come out a new person.  given some clean time does wonders for one's ability to think and make the choice to actually "want" to stay clean and change their life around.  what i am saying is that sometimes we are forced to make that "first" step for them...but "then" it is up to them to do the work.  my hat is off to you for giving your daughter that chance.

you say that she is not being honest about the amount or real extent of her addiction.  dont sweat this jane...this is normal.  first things first...ya know?  let's just worry about her accepting that she is an addict and that she needs help...and she does.  again let me say...this will be "almost" impossible for her to do alone.

i am fixing to send you a private message...so be looking for it.

your in my prayers,
kim

[Jane477]

Thanks for your support.  I'm so scared I can't tell you.  I'm going to be shaking like a leaf when it's time.  I am having some problems with her inlaws though.  The two sisters in law are of the opinion that it's my daughter's choice to do the drugs.  I said she's addicted, the power of choice has been taken away.  I'm afraid too that they are going to come across as negative and angry at the intervention so I alerted the intervention head.  Also they have invited a family friend who really has no personal connection to my daughter, to the intervention.  I'm not sure someone who is just a casual acquaintance should be there.   I'm not sure my daughter who is already hating herself really wants all her dirty laundry aired in front of someone she's not close to.

[traveladdict]

I think you are doing absolutely the right move.  Bringing in professionals can diffuse many possible problems. I hope they plan to take her directly to the rehab center.  With long term support and counseling for the family. I think you have just saved her life. Keep me posted on your progress.  I don't what I would do seeing my daughter falling that far.  I bad enough hiding from her that her dad is an addict.

[gizzy32]

absolutely, you are right, its an eyeopener.  i watched the show for the first time, at the end of my 5 year coke run,  when i saw the show it hit me like a ton of bricks. i new i needed help.  i think it helps not only an addict, but families as well.  people that have never been through addiction, don't understand how we could do some of the things we did, in fact i don;'t think we do either. take care lizzie

[LIZZIE LOU]

yeah it's great...most ppl here watch it when they can.

what i like about it is the fact that it makes addiction "real", ya know?  i think sometimes it can be a real eye opener for some ppl who are still struggling with that age ole question..."am i an addict?"  it can show just how bad...to what depths one CAN go for that almighty high.  basically...it just puts a "face" on addiction.

happy new year,
kim

[gizzy32]

hello, just to let you know, the show intervention is now on monday's on A@E. they had an intervention marathon on last night. what a show. its like looking into our lives, back when we were using, or those still using. i have started watching in this past month or so. it is therapy for me. next week is brand new shows. its about a girl, taking all kinds of pills. they show her collapsed on her kitchen floor.  some of these are just so heartbreaking.

[Jane477]

I called and we do have an intervention team booked.  They're going to fly up on  the 2nd and we'll do it on the 3 if we can track her down.  I've talked to her a bit.  Was in contact with a friend of hers that she's now gotten in touch with.  She's being semi honest with the friend, telling her that she's been doing crack, but insisting that she can clean herself up.  She told the friend that we are not letting her see have her son, which is not true.  She's welcome to see him, but not to  have him alone.  She's not being honest about the amount or real extent of her addiction.  I also noticed on her facebook site that she added the girl she started smoking crack with to her friends list today.  The bf who is also an addict is gone, so now she's back associating with the one she got hooked with.

[addictedme]

Actually you dont need pros for certain types of interventions,,in 12 step programs its the 12th step

[octobermoon]

my brother in law just told me nutmeg....about 4 TLBS in a pitcher of eggnog...a quart....will get me through a particualrly tough night...if only I could sleep *sigh* lunesta..ohwell........anyway this nutmeg things rings some sort of a bell ...anyone heard of this???

[LIZZIE LOU]

hi jane...

have you ever watched the show called "intervention"?  i think it comes on friday nights if i am not mistaken.  see if you can find it...it will help you make that decision.  if you do try and stage an intervention...it needs to be done by a professional guiding you through the steps.  this person will done their homework and have the next step...ready and waiting should your daughter decide to accept her family's help.  

not trying to pry...but is rehab financially possible?  your daughter...in my opinion...needs long term treatment.  crack and meth are horrible drugs...and the control they have on one's mind is unbelievable.  it will be almost impossible for her to do this alone.

please know that you and your daughter have been in my prayers since i first read your post.  dont give up on her...you may be the only person who can reach her.  do not forget that your daughter is unable to make a rational decision about her recovery right now...the addict is in control.

have you been able to talk to her anymore since yesterday's post?  any better?

[addictedme]

na makes no distinction between drugs,our identification as addicts is all inclusive allowing to concentrate on our similarities and not our differences.

[bandnmom]

I went to my first NA meeting last week. I was so nervouse to go let alone introduce myself as an addict. But honestly I believe it did and will continue to help. No one there judges you. Sure everyone had a different drug of choice but in some way we all are in the same boat. I plan to go every week. Good luck to you and give it a try it can't hurt. Right?

[Zurich42]

Of course this is just my humble opinion...
I believe Narcanon and other rehab institutions WILL help - as well as intervention - but ONLY IF the addict is willing and committed to change their life into one that is free of narcotics.  Addiction is hard - and withdrawing from narcotics is worse.  I am now on my 4th week of sobriety from Vicodin and can see the positive changes that I neglected when I was 'high'.  My success directly correllates to my commitment to a narcotic free life.  I had to find 'other ways' to become super human - ones that gained 'more quality' in my life, with less harm to my mind and body.  Make sense?